Boy Scouts no-gays policy change proposal draws backlash
The Boy Scouts of America faces intensifying criticism from the left and right over a proposal to move away from a mandatory no-gays membership policy and allow troop sponsors to decide the matter for themselves.
The Human Rights Campaign, a major gay-rights group that initially welcomed the BSA’s possible shift, said Thursday that it was inadequate and demanded that the Scouts adopt a nationwide policy to accept gays as scouts and adult leaders. …
Meanwhile, conservative groups which support the long-standing no-gays policy asked their followers to flood BSA headquarters with phone calls opposing any change. …
“The BSA national leadership were not prepared for the thousands of Americans who were shocked to hear that an organization that could always be counted on for standing for what’s right was about to cave in to homosexual activists and corporations,” Perkins said in an emailed appeal.
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Maybe this explains the backlash ……….
fogw on February 1, 2013 at 11:25 AM
Unexpectedly.
The Rogue Tomato on February 1, 2013 at 11:25 AM
The Susan G. Komen Foundation of 2013.
Mr. D on February 1, 2013 at 11:26 AM
No way I’d give another dime to BSA, nor would I allow my son to join, if they change the policy.
I doubt I’m the only one who feels this way.
The BSA is committing suicide if they continue down this road.
Rebar on February 1, 2013 at 11:27 AM
Like, 12 people aren’t going to help all that much.
libfreeordie on February 1, 2013 at 11:27 AM
I’m shocked to learn that the gay mafia doesn’t actually value tolerance and freedom but rather dictats and forced acceptance.
gwelf on February 1, 2013 at 11:32 AM
If homosexual predators don’t have full access to these boys, well that’s a violation of their civil rights!
Rebar on February 1, 2013 at 11:34 AM
What difference, at this point, does it make?
/Hillary Clinton (what difference, at this point, does anything make)
Paul-Cincy on February 1, 2013 at 11:34 AM
Whoa, didn’t see that coming….
tommyboy on February 1, 2013 at 11:35 AM
Well, who would have thunk it?
cptacek on February 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM
You obviously know nothing about the Boy Souts or the type of building the majority of their troops have their meetings in.
tommyboy on February 1, 2013 at 11:42 AM
Speaking of, I wonder how their funding ended up last year?
cptacek on February 1, 2013 at 11:42 AM
In 2010, the Southern Poverty Law Center classified the FRC as an anti-gay hate group. You going to minimize the influence of a hate group? Where are your priorities? You have to fight hate when it’s still small. Like, you’ve got some short-haired rednecks on some college campus who like guns, talk about America being a great country, and put their hands over their hearts when they say the pledge of allegiance. Pretty soon you’ve got ROTC on your campus. I’m telling you, it starts small. Call out hate wherever you see it, and then, destroy it. Annihilate it.
/I am Sandra Fluke
Paul-Cincy on February 1, 2013 at 11:43 AM
Snark is really unattractive when practiced by an idiot.
GWB on February 1, 2013 at 11:43 AM
Did they really not expect this? It wasn’t going to be good enough for the left, and the right wasn’t going to take it lying down (so to speak). Even a caveman could have predicted that.
Bob's Kid on February 1, 2013 at 11:47 AM
BTW, if this policy goes through, packs and troops all over America will disappear as their adult leadership will dry up. I certainly won’t provide my volunteer hours (I’ve been an assistant scoutmaster and a committee member for about 10 years now) if the national organization will undercut the local ones in this fashion.
GWB on February 1, 2013 at 11:48 AM
It’s like Roe v. Wade. Leaving it up to the states isn’t good enough. Everyone has to do it the liberal way. Everyone must conform. They can’t decide what to do on their own. They might make a mistake!
Paul-Cincy on February 1, 2013 at 11:50 AM
See that, everyone has to have their agenda shoved down their throat, everyone. Typical liberals. Then again, they enjoy having things shoved down their throat.
Daemonocracy on February 1, 2013 at 11:56 AM
I am currently a cub master, and have volunteered while all my boys went through scouts. If they change the policy, we are done. My oldest is almost through the program and getting close to doing his eagle project. It will be a shame to have all his energy be “wasted” but I think the lesson it will teach him about standing up for what is right will be invaluable.
Kristamatic on February 1, 2013 at 11:58 AM
I’m just spit-balling here, but if the The Human Rights Campaign HATE Christians so much, can’t they just start their own group and call it the ‘Gay Scouts’?
reddevil on February 1, 2013 at 12:03 PM
I’m sure once the policy change goes through you’ll be the first to sign up wont you pervert?
jawkneemusic on February 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM
I’m actually somewhat happy to see this: it’s a huge tactical mistake by the HRC. Incrementalism under the unworkable “federalist” proposal being floated would probably have won them the day in a generation. The “inclusive” troops, councils and their supporters would have isolated, ostracized and knifed their religious brothers in the back over the passage of time.
Ironically, the HRC’s fangs-bearing will likely help maintain the status quo.
But, yes, it shows that it is clearly their-way-or-the-highway. Not that we didn’t already know that.
DRPrice on February 1, 2013 at 12:06 PM
“No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one.” – Simone de Beauvoir
thebrokenrattle on February 1, 2013 at 12:07 PM
I checked their report on Guidestar. Their fiscal year ends on March 31 so it will be some time until they file their 990.
blammm on February 1, 2013 at 12:13 PM
The only purpose is to destroy the BSA, for the Sin of advocating anti-progressive values.
Progressivism is a religion, and is far less tolerant than even islam.
Rebar on February 1, 2013 at 12:13 PM
In my letter to the BSA:
“If an FOS presenter felt so strongly about the values of Scouting that he or she would visit multiple units every year to raise money, then how would he or she feel if the BSA no longer supported the values of Scouting?”
rihar on February 1, 2013 at 12:20 PM
The phones at the national BSA office are ringing off the hook with wait times of up to 40 minutes. I am a part time employee with the BSA. As an employee, I have no opinion; but as a Cub Scout leader, Asst. District Commission, Troop Committee Member and Silver Beaver awardee, I’ll quit everything before I comply with a policy that goes against my religious beliefs. I took a job with the BSA and volunteer my time because of their values. They change them, I’m done.
Beaglemom on February 1, 2013 at 12:22 PM
HRC is overreaching. Let the BSA stop discrimination on their on time. They’re already taking the first steps.
mythicknight on February 1, 2013 at 12:24 PM
I am literally shaking and having difficulties typing, because this is one of the nastiest comments I have seen in a very, very long time.
Sir, I am an Eagle Scout. My father, a former Troop master, and his two brothers are Eagle Scouts. My two cousins are Eagle Scouts, both sons of my uncle who is also a Troop master. We are all grandsons/sons of my Grandfather, an Eagle Scout.
You are willing to destroy your OWN son’s accomplishment because of your disdain for other people? An accomplishment that has benefited me in job applications, college acceptance and more importantly – in my demeanor and drive. I can understand removing yourself, but intentionally destroying and punishing your own son because of some disgusting antipathy you have for being inclusive?
What the F&CK is wrong with you?
ZachV on February 1, 2013 at 12:24 PM
Yea, I know. Was trying to be a little factitious. The Human Rights Campaign is just another in a long line of CHRISTIAN HATE GROUPS.
reddevil on February 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM
In Liberal Land, it’s “my way or the highway”.
Bitter Clinger on February 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM
Sounds like he’s a man of Christian principles to me and its causing you to get the vapors. I’m proud of him and his son.
tommyboy on February 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM
Discrimination?
jawkneemusic on February 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM
What the F*ck is wrong with you? Stop your HATE
reddevil on February 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM
STOP THE DISCRIMINATION AGAINST CRACK DEALERS AND PROSTITUTES SERVING AS SCOUT MASTERS NOW!
reddevil on February 1, 2013 at 12:32 PM
This.
And more than principles, it’s a simple matter of protecting his boy from homosexual child predators.
Rebar on February 1, 2013 at 12:32 PM
And this won’t be the end of the protesting if/when the BSA caves.
The gays have also stated that letting individual troops decide is only a step to FORCING all to accept it.
Just how much shoving and strong arm tactics will it take to motivate people to FIGHT BACK?!
sanjuro on February 1, 2013 at 12:35 PM
Good for you Kristamatic. My son is a cub scout and this Saturday will be his first pinewood derby. If the BSA adopts this policy it will be his last.
Kataklysmic on February 1, 2013 at 12:35 PM
Throughout the country’s history, bigots have pulled out of things when “undesirables” were let in. It used to be women, then blacks, now gays. They’ve lost to progress every single time. They are to lose again.
Good riddance!
lester on February 1, 2013 at 12:38 PM
I prefer honest dialogue
HotAirian on February 1, 2013 at 12:39 PM
You can’t help but throw the term “bigot” around recklessly. So I’ll throw the term “moron” back at you.
Bitter Clinger on February 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM
Let’s say this policy is adopted. Should I then go to my church council and recommend that the BSA meetings be held elsewhere? I mean, what would happen to our church if it becomes known that some sort of inappropriate “badges” were being earned, IYKWIM?
Jeffster on February 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM
The only thing the progressive lobby will succeed in doing here is destroying a once great organization. If the BSA folds (which looks likely) what you’ll have at the end of the day is a Scouting program that a bunch of large corporations are tripping over themselves to fund (to show how “progressive they are) but no one who wants to be a member. Nail, coffin, some assembly required.
Kataklysmic on February 1, 2013 at 12:41 PM
I consider being an Eagle Scout one of my most important accomplishments in my life. As has been repeated to me in almost every single Eagle Scout Court of Honor that I have attended – from those that were my mentor, to the scouts that I helped and mentored; only 2 in 100 boys who have ever join Boy Scouts will become an Eagle.
Boys will join the ranks of Eagles like Neil Armstrong, Gerald Ford, Hank Aaron, Lamar Alexander, Steven Spielberg, James Lovell and hundreds of other accomplished men in this country.
They learn life skills like commitment, honor, honesty … Christ, I can recite the motto, oath and Eagle Charge better than I can any my multiplication tables.
And this man wants to destroy his own son’s accomplishment? Deprive him of his own greatest accomplishment? You people are revolting.
I cannot imagine the pain of having to look back on your life, and seeing how damn close you were, and knowing that it was not you who failed, but that of your parent’s close-mindedness. That’s the type of resentment a son will take to his grave.
ZachV on February 1, 2013 at 12:45 PM
ZachV It’s a called character and moral courage to stand up for what you believe rather than cowering to a group that promotes perversion. It seems all the BSA means to you was a chance to add something impressive to your college resume and job application.
sanjuro on February 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM
Help Us Stop this discrimination against Prostitutes and Crack Dealers!
reddevil on February 1, 2013 at 12:48 PM
Ah, yes, the Left’s “Ratchet of Progress.” With the false analogy of racism and sexism attached. It’s interesting that the cause can’t stand alone, but has to clutch at Rosa Parks’ skirts. Suggests some adequacy problems, I think. Might want to think about toning down the ick-factor in the pride parades.
Anyway, the fist of equality has broken its knuckles before. See also, “Bury You!, We Will” and “Does the Pope Have?, How Many Divisions”
DRPrice on February 1, 2013 at 12:50 PM
Gay Scouts?
Bmore on February 1, 2013 at 12:52 PM
What is revolting, is the progressive homosexual agenda having to force a private organization to kowtow to their demands, demands that are directly contradicting the mission of the BSA.
What is revolting, is that homosexuals would rather destroy the organization rather than just accept that they’re not welcome.
Rebar on February 1, 2013 at 12:52 PM
Except for the progressives who wanted to eliminate the “lesser” races.
And the progressives who try to destroy those who have a different ideology.
And the progressives who need to resort to the force of government to put those who disagree with them in their place.
The progressive movement has it’s own long list of “undesirables” it targets, isolates and tries to eliminate.
gwelf on February 1, 2013 at 12:53 PM
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