Oh, and it cost us a grand and dozens of hours to get that answer each time. But we’re grateful, because our government reminded us they had already implemented the Paperwork Reduction Act when we did it.

[Wander on January 29, 2013 at 9:37 AM]

[Dr. Frank Enstine on January 29, 2013 at 11:08 AM]

What is just as bad is the number of relatives who are denied visitor’s visas because of the determination “You might not go back!”

After my wife was here for three years we twice tried to have her mom visit. Her mom, 74, was fairly well off and had no reason whatsoever for staying here, yet both times it was determined that she didn’t sufficient reason to go back, financially, etc, which INS deemed necessary to allow her to visit. I heard that from others at her posh gated community back home from people who had good retirement incomes letting them live like top 25%-ers in their home country, though she’d never be able to live like that here.

‘In-sufficient ties to home country’ really means ‘Sorry, we don’t enforce our laws’.

LMAO. What back taxes? Back taxes on unreported earnings? How is that to be done? Back taxes on earnings reported by their employer having used a stolen name and SS#? Didn’t they file their income tax forms regularly? If they did why aren’t they up-to-date on taxes. If not, who is going to determine what was earned and who will calculate it?

Just words that mean nothing more than ‘Look at us! We’re being compassionate, firm, impartial and fair, please vote for amnesty so we can be seen as doing something. Oh, and re-elect us!’

I want my money back.

I want my money back for the fees I paid to bring my Western European, Universtiy educated, (Masters Degree) tri-lingual wife into this country.

The hours wasted on lines, the humiliating interviews and the promise and bond not to be a public charge.

I want my money back.

Wander on January 29, 2013 at 9:37 AM

Same thing happen to my brother and his Japanese wife. On top of all of that she had to go back to Japan and stay there for 3 months before she was allowed back in. I use to know a guy that married a woman from Chile and they went through all of that and she had to stay in Chile 6 months before being allowed in. I’ve also known people that have said they wished they had gone the illegal route because the gov benefits were better, costs less and they didn’t have to deal with the hassle that legal methods had.

If ignoring soverign borders, working illegally, driving without a license, driving without insurance, using ‘straw purchasers’ to register their cars, houses, etc., is no longer illegal, there are a lot of people who need to be let out of jail.

If failing to pay taxes for years and years is suddenly legal, a lot of people deserve a letter of apology from the IRS.

Otherwise, maybe we should incorporate jail time (or even suspended sentences) into the amnesty deal.

Also, why do we assume that these “hard working” illegals are rushing to sign up to be citizens? How many of them come here to work illegally just to send their tax free money back to their home country? How many cross the border at their leisure and whim in both directions?

How many have committed felonies in the US that would send the rest of us to jail, but since they used a fake name and fake ID when arrested, and were never jailed, they will slip through the cracks?

I agree that our current system is screwed up, and that part of blame lies with the US government for setting up such an incentive to come here illegally, and such a disincentive to come here legally. But this amnesty plan is absolutely not going to solve the problem, and will make things worse.

Two other quick things: When did the number change to 11 million? I guarantee the real number will be at least twice that. And do Republicans care that legalizing tens of millions of democrat voters will turn TX blue and end any future chance republicans have of winning a nationwide election?

No plan should be considered that doesn’t eliminate the “anchor baby” issue.

gregbert on January 29, 2013 at 10:48 AM

No plan should be considered that doesn’t eliminate the “future Dem voter” issue. FIFY:)

How do you pay back taxes on undeclared income…?

NeoKong

Since most of them are low income earners, they probably have no taxable income to begin with. Even worse? They’ll probably qualify for Earned Income Tax Credits, which means not only will they not be paying back taxes, they will in fact be getting money.

And if illegal immigrants have been working and paying taxes by definition they are using fraudulently obtained documents, often committing Identity Theft…

Will they be prosecuted for crimes that a citizen would? Of course not. But don’t call it amnesty!

Bingo (emphasis mine). They are held to a totally different standard, and worse, the proposal doesn’t require disclosure of the identity theft so victims can, at very least, be informed. The victims (often children) are left to bear the consequences while the illegal immigrants reap the rewards.