I just started watching that show on Netflix. I’m about halfway through season 4 but I don’t recall a scouting episode so it must be later on. Funny show. One of my favorite Bender lines, “Oh your god!”

Dr. Frank Enstine on January 28, 2013 at 2:14 PM

The quote comes from when Bender gets thrown out of Lunar Disneyland.

“Oh, yeah? I don’t need your stupid Disneyland! I’ll build my own Disneyland! With blackjack! And hookers!”

I’m an assistant scoutmaster in a socially-conservative area with a huge scouting presence. I’ve seen the social consensus change radically since that 2000 lawsuit. The youth (even the evangelical Christian youth) are much more accepting of their gay peers at school. Many of the younger dads in our troop have served in combat under “don’t ask, don’t tell” rules, so they are also fairly used to being around gays.

The UK scouts (birthplace of scouting) have had gay-inclusive policies for a few years, and thus far scouting has survived in the UK.

The key thing to understand is that the local sponsoring orgainization (a church, school, or community group) “owns” the troop they sponsor. A conservative religious troop (Muslim, LDS, or Evangelical) would probably not change their standards (and why would a gay family enroll their kid in such a troop?). A liberal mainline curch or secular community group would be free to advertise themselves as inclusive.

Now if we could get the Girl Scouts to allow male leaders, we might make some progress. Our local area has a “no men” policy —- funny how that never rates a media call-out for discrimination. My daughter rejected membership in Girl Scouts for that reason (but she made a pretty good unofficial Cub Scout while tagging along with me & her brother).

I didn’t claim he was gay or straight. You did. Don’t pretend that it was me who made some fallacious argument, and not you.

besser tot als rot on January 28, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Bless your heart, you’re a bright one.

Basically you dislike gays more than other sinners. The reason is you are anti-gay, a bigot.

Capitalist Hog on January 28, 2013 at 2:42 PM

Your ignorance is nothing short of astounding in this day and age of having information instantly at your fingertips.

The word “abomination” is the strongest known word of disgust in the entirety of God’s creation. There is literally no stronger word for disgust. God ONLY uses it to warn against the gay lifestyle. No other sin invokes God’s anger to the point where he defines it as abomination except for homosexuality. In case you were unaware, God himself destroyed entire cities of thousands of people for no other reason than the abominable people they had become in HIS eyes.

Maybe the next time you start demanding that Godly people stop obeying God you’ll excuse them for laughing at you.

Lots of people ‘indulge’ in gay behavior in prison. Violent gay acts.
Presumably you think they are just expressing their choice of an alternative lifestyle.
CorporatePiggy on January 28, 2013 at 3:29 PM

So what? Lots of gays marry female beards as cover while they pursue their true desires on the down low.

besser tot als rot on January 28, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Thanks for that. Best smackdown I’ve read in a while.

I see Red Berets becoming part of the Scout Uniform very soon.

portlandon on January 28, 2013 at 2:16 PM

HA ate my comment for some reason.

These guys wear red berets. They’re pretty serious guys and they busted their asses to earn those red berets.

Lots of people ‘indulge’ in gay behavior in prison. Violent gay acts.

Presumably you think they are just expressing their choice of an alternative lifestyle.

CorporatePiggy on January 28, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Sandusky wasn’t in prison, he chose to rape little boys.

Lots of people ‘indulge’ in gay behavior in prison. Violent gay acts.

Presumably you think they are just expressing their choice of an alternative lifestyle.

CorporatePiggy on January 28, 2013 at 3:29 PM

I didn’t claim he was gay or straight. You did. Don’t pretend that it was me who made some fallacious argument, and not you.