Time for a new Fox?
Does Fox News now have an All-Amnesty lineup? Looks like it. Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly have now fallen in line behind World Citizen Rupert Murdoch’s support of ”sweeping, generous immigration reform,” including a “path to citizenship.” Karl Rove was always on board, of course.
What about Fox News’ viewers? Are they going to go along like sheep? They now have no network that represents their perspective on what seems to be a key issue for Obama’s second term. Is it time for a new Fox? (Wouldn’t it be time for a new Fox anyway? That lineup has been stale for years.) …
P.S.: Is there any other issue in American politics where the media’s coverage is so one-sided? Even non-PC newspapers are eager to expand Latino readership–they’ve been in a GOP-like panic about not offending Latinos for years.
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Been about 8 years since Fox needed a conservative challenger to keep it straight. It is no longer reasonably unbiased. It has significantly drifted to the left.
astonerii on January 22, 2013 at 9:43 AM
Really? Haven’t watched Fox News for over 2 years now.
Not missing it one bit.
Sir Napsalot on January 22, 2013 at 9:45 AM
Hannity is a Repubobot. He’d eventually come around to anything the GOPe says is OK.
ddrintn on January 22, 2013 at 9:46 AM
I haven’t watched Fox for a few years, now, save now an dthen during the election. That channel blows chunks. Fox business sucks, too. There is no decent news channel on TV or cable so I get all my news from the internet, now.
All the amnesty mongers can FOAD.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 22, 2013 at 9:48 AM
There are those of us out here who DO NOT fear competition from illegals. In fact, it would seem to me that most conservatives prefer a native born citizen who sits around on his ass all the time to an illegal who busts his ass all the time doing meaningful work.
People say that illegals are lazy and here only to “bogart” our entitlement system. This is false, the illegals I saw, who RAN TOWARD New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina were some hard working dudes. I was glad to have them – they helped me rebuild and regain the life I had prior to that storm. All my neighbors fled to Houston and STAYED THERE until the government agreed to bail them out. Meanwhile – hardworking Mexicans were rebuilding New Orleans.
I’m not the slightest bit Mexican, or Hispanic, or Latino. However, I am a Libertarian and I believe that it’s time that lazy assed Americans got some competition for a change.
HondaV65 on January 22, 2013 at 9:55 AM
Maria Molina does weather on FNC. So they have that going for them.
forest on January 22, 2013 at 9:55 AM
I stopped watching Hannity when I realized his sing-song voice which always ends in a high note was raising my blood pressure.
There’s only one show worth watching and that’s “Spartacus”.
Bishop on January 22, 2013 at 9:55 AM
Meth producers work pretty hard too, constructing and managing those labs is tough work. And those murderers making license plates in the prison shop, wow those dudes are workin’!
Bishop on January 22, 2013 at 9:58 AM
Same here. I don’t think I’ve watched Fox since Brett Hume left his nightly show. The covers are off and they are all leaning left as far as I can see.
Dr. Frank Enstine on January 22, 2013 at 9:58 AM
The 25th!!!
Washington Nearsider on January 22, 2013 at 9:58 AM
But a serious answer to the question is yes.
If other struggling media outlets were serious about becoming profitable, they’d go more conservative. There’s room for it in the marketplace. But profit is not really what they are after.
forest on January 22, 2013 at 9:58 AM
I reluctantly agree…Fox blows. What was once a lone island for conservative views has become infected with liberalism. Juan, Geraldo, Beckel, have pretty much stunk the place up. I could really care less if my cable provider droped the channel and it was originally why I chose them. Talk radio is about the only voice remaining and I thank God for Mark Levin.
trs on January 22, 2013 at 9:59 AM
I watch Fox less and less. I am down to The Five and Special Report only. And that is when I feel I can tolerate the news briefly. I get most of my info from the internet: Here, PJ MEDIA, Instapundit and ACE. That is it. (And the links they provide, of course.) I spend my time reading, working on my Etsy Shop and watching documentaries and fine British dramas as well as listening to Teaching Company courses. I am plannin g y travel adventures. I feel like we are secretly waiting for the “right moment” whatever or whenever that may be.
djl130 on January 22, 2013 at 10:00 AM
Mmmm, I suppose if my net worth was 7+ digits, I wouldn’t care much about the political and economic ramifications of granting citizenship to 10M+ new Democrat voters.
But my net worth isnt 7+ digits, so I do.
(also: heartless)
Jeddite on January 22, 2013 at 10:01 AM
I also don’t like that they bypass the law. My sister-in-law had to jump through hoops just to get into the country after getting married to my brother. I have many friends and co-workers that are very hard working legal immigrants and I don’t think it is fair to those that worked with the system to give amnesty to those that didn’t. Hard working or not.
Dr. Frank Enstine on January 22, 2013 at 10:05 AM
Charlie H. Crist on a cross! Really? Super fantabulous.
Bishop on January 22, 2013 at 10:11 AM
Yeah, the lineup that’s been leading the ratings for like 8 years?
Is that the lineup you mean?
kit dinker on January 22, 2013 at 10:12 AM
I’m guessing they’re also the one’s selling you the drugs that have fried your feeble brain.
xblade on January 22, 2013 at 10:16 AM
Getting rid of welfare would do more than opening up the border. Oh, I once asked a construction worker that was illegal, How do you afford 5 kids?”. He replied with a simile and say you pay for them not me. And when you illegalize them you make them available for more tax credits. Schools, free lunches, Obama phones, Section 8. Do you really think you are getting a deal.
Also, government agency prints things in Spanish. Do you think that’s cheap?
Oil Can on January 22, 2013 at 10:22 AM
They just took a hard conservative turn with the addition of Dennis Kookoonish.
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Mimzey on January 22, 2013 at 10:26 AM
I like Brian Kilmeade. He has a one-off personality, very clever, energetic thinker.
vityas on January 22, 2013 at 10:26 AM
Spartacus, War of the Damned. 25Jan13
Washington Nearsider on January 22, 2013 at 10:26 AM
Same here.
The Rogue Tomato on January 22, 2013 at 10:35 AM
Took me a while to get used to the new Spartacus after Andy Whitfield died. He’s grown on me now. The 25th can’t get here soon enough.
CookeyD on January 22, 2013 at 10:38 AM
Nice straw man. The conservatives I rub shoulders with have no problem with Hispanics as people or competing with them in the workplace. We have a problem with how they vote.
Kataklysmic on January 22, 2013 at 10:39 AM
Is Cavuto still good? I always liked him.
22044 on January 22, 2013 at 10:46 AM
The All-Star Panel has become an exercise in spouting the conventional wisdom. They take absolutely no risks whatsoever.
RedRedRice on January 22, 2013 at 10:48 AM
Depends on the Amnesty being floated around.
I think we’d all object to a blanket Amnesty because it would include people working other angles on criminality.
I’d rather see something that continues current immigration policy but when illegals are found:
They are given a choice. Forfeit all assets in the US and everyone, including children, get shipped back to the country of origin. or…
They can pay for a 1-year application for a green card and start citizenship processes. That way they become legalized and have to start paying into the system.
This way we’re not playing catch, release, and catch. Don’t penalize people for coming here and being productive.
Nethicus on January 22, 2013 at 10:57 AM
More “Amnesty derangement”? Brings back memories…And how about a new idea, a news outlet that has no bias, right or left?
Since 2008 during the McCain “McAmnesty” accusations, I’ve been saying that some form of “amnesty” is going to be necessary. Not only that, but what exactly is “amnesty”? As far as I see it, it’s anything short of rounding up illegals and immediate deportation. And with an estimated 12-20 million, the logistics just aren’t possible.
I’m all for secured borders…if it takes a concrete wall topped with barbed wire, so be it. Only about half of Latinos in the US illegally crossed the Southern border to get here. The rest came here legally on a Visa and simply stayed after it expired…so a mile-wide moat filled with man-eating alligators wouldn’t have stopped them.
I realize there’s a long waiting list of people from all over the world going through the arduous processes of becoming US citizens. And until the whole “amnesty” is actually explained, defined, and fully enforced, the problem will only get worse…not to mention dividing the GOP.
JetBoy on January 22, 2013 at 11:10 AM
JetBoy on January 22, 2013 at 11:12 AM
i couldn’t make heads or tails out of your post. but i hope it meant to say that opening our borders will lead to the destruction of our country.
lets enforce the laws we have now. close the border. simple. si’
renalin on January 22, 2013 at 11:19 AM
Yes, Fox News desperately needs competition from the right. In the marketplace for TV news today, Fox only has to be one millimeter to the right of CNN. There’s no one else. Where are the capitalists that want to make money on an obvious opportunity?
slickwillie2001 on January 22, 2013 at 11:36 AM
I quit watching FoxNews about a year ago because I got sick of yelling at the TV. I made one exception: election night – and I wasn’t impressed.
It has nothing to do with immigration (I tend to agree that deporting all illegals is unrealistic). It’s their programming.
The regular Fox & Friends host can charitably be described as airheads, and I can’t stand O’Reilley or Hannity. I also get sick of Michelle Malkin’s purer-than-thou brand of conservatism, Rove’s arrogance, and Dick Morris’ tell-em-what-they-wanna-hear analysis.
It’s purely anecdotal, but I suspect they are hemmoraging conservative viewers. They need to increase the quality of their programming to win me back. As it is, I rely on the internet for news.
DRayRaven on January 22, 2013 at 11:38 AM
How do we know that they haven’t simply been ordered to support amnesty? After the Soros Crime Family broke Fox News and got Glenn Beck fired, we know that the rest of the organization was ordered to ‘turn down the rhetoric’ by Ailes and Murdoch.
If they have been ordered to support amnesty, would we ever know? In the one-conservative-network world we have, there’s not a lot of job security.
slickwillie2001 on January 22, 2013 at 11:40 AM
Republicans need to get serious with immigration. The only real plan was the Bush plan because his guest worker progam was a quiet way of getting rid of the black market for illegal immigrant workers. Dry up the black market and the illegals will go home on their own, as they have been doing during the Great Recession.
But this Dream Act crap is bad news. Make 10 million low-skill immigrants legal and you’ll suddenly have 10 million more people on the welfare rolls and, eventually, 10 million more registered Democratic voters. That’s a suicide pact for Republicans.
Outlander on January 22, 2013 at 11:51 AM
It’s early and still nursing the flu…I just re-read my comment and even I don’t know what the heck I was saying there :/
Basically, I’m all for a secured border. Put up armed guard towers if necessary. But I also realize that something needs to be done about the millions of illegals here already, and those that come here legally and didn’t “jump the fence” so to speak. The only way to deal with that successfully is to institute some form of this “amnesty”.
The problem is, that therm “amnesty” hasn’t really been defined as to what it really would be. It certainly shouldn’t mean total forgiveness and full citizenship. But it should be a pathway to that, as any mass deportations of so many people just isn’t possible.
JetBoy on January 22, 2013 at 11:51 AM
JetBoy on January 22, 2013 at 11:51 AM
thanks.secure border first. amnesty or whatever, next.
renalin on January 22, 2013 at 12:02 PM
This post from the same people on the constant lookout for a not-white guy super POTUS candidate?
Moesart on January 22, 2013 at 12:14 PM
..so, basically, you and Bishop like gladiator movies? I thought so! Either of you ever been in a Turkish prison?
The War Planner on January 22, 2013 at 12:21 PM
Not to mention Alan Colmes, who shows up now and then to brighten our day with his cheerful, warm personality and good looks. /
UltimateBob on January 22, 2013 at 12:41 PM
baaa-baaa-baaa
james23 on January 22, 2013 at 12:48 PM
It makes no more sense to lionize all illegals as harder worker than the average citizen than it does to demonize all of them as lazy moochers.
As with pretty much all groups of people larger than 1, they have a wide variety of work ethics, motivations and intentions in this country. There are extremely hard working ones that want to make a new life here. There are extremely hard working ones that want to bank enough money to go home to the country that truly has their heart. There are criminals that have found loopholes to exploit. People that are looking for freebies, etc.
Just about the only thing that every single illegal alien has in common is that they have broken at minimum one law (usually more) to be in the country – whether it is crossing the border illegally or overstaying a visa.
I’m not knee-jerk opposed to open borders, but, before we consider it, it seems that we’d need to abolish all forms of public aid that might attract people just looking for handouts, establish how to ensure that criminals/terrorists aren’t crossing along with workers and determine how to ensure that they are paying taxes (one potential method would be replacing income taxes with consumption taxes).
JadeNYU on January 22, 2013 at 1:03 PM