That’s how liberals “reproduce.” They take normal people’s children and indoctrinate them while they are malleable.

Of course, by definition, a perfectly strong family can’t be broken. That’s why the first goal of indoctrinating children into Communism is to CAUSE the kinds of strife that alienate children from their parents and strain family bonds. Even if they don’t convert a child now, the next generation will be that much weaker.

Granted, the American government doesn’t yet practice full internment of children. But how many “parents” today would welcome a full-time federal babysitting service as a relief from unwanted responsibility? Now imagine how many would have considered submitting to such an atrocity fifty years ago. See how this process works?

logis on January 22, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Correct. That’s what’s ultimately behind Hillary and her “it takes a village” belief.

I agree with not conceding the argument, but I doubt that very many leftists come from conservative families.
njrob on January 22, 2013 at 11:31 AM

It’s fairly safe to say that EVERY liberal had parents who didn’t have an abortion.

the child goes to school and gets indoctrinated into leftist beliefs. A conservative family typically teaches values that cannot be broken by group think.

That’s how liberals “reproduce.” They take normal people’s children and indoctrinate them while they are malleable.

Of course, by definition, a perfectly strong family can’t be broken. That’s why the first goal of indoctrinating children into Communism is to CAUSE the kinds of strife that alienate children from their parents and strain family bonds. Even if they don’t convert a child now, the next generation will be that much weaker.

Granted, the American government doesn’t yet practice full internment of children. But how many “parents” today would welcome a full-time federal babysitting service as a relief from unwanted responsibility? Now imagine how many would have considered submitting to such an atrocity fifty years ago. See how this process works?

This idea that liberals will just get rid of themselves is just ill-founded. Where did the vast majority of liberals come from, outside of minorities?

Conservative families.

When you concede the argument, the other side wins by default.

ckoeber on January 22, 2013 at 11:11 AM

I agree with not conceding the argument, but I doubt that very many leftists come from conservative families. I expect they come from leftist families and apolitical families where the child goes to school and gets indoctrinated into leftist beliefs. A conservative family typically teaches values that cannot be broken by group think.

It wins by default, for the most part. How many people describe themselves as “pro-abortion”?

ddrintn on January 22, 2013 at 9:53 AM

Hence the pro-choice label. The more telling thing to look at is that most people identify as neither, which acgtually puts them in the pro-choice camp.

I would say that most people, and especially pro-choicers, ascribe to the spectrum argument when it comes to abortion, which goes like this:

Just as an acorn is not a tree, a fetus is not a baby. We don’t know at what point a fetus becomes a baby, some say it’s at the point of viability and others say it can be further along or even before viability. But what right do we have in determining that or making that choice for women?

Now, I have heard of the SLED argument (essentially there is no difference in value between a fetus and a baby) as a response to this, but the spectrum argument goes beyond that; everyone is starting to admit that the fetus is life; the question is now whether the fetus is valuable life that deserves the same protections as a person.

In my mind people won’t assign value to a fetus unless it has clear characteristics of a baby, which is why I believe people are hesitant to overturn Roe Vs. Wade.

I was tired of arguing about it a long time ago. The silver lining is that it’s population control of leftists, predominantly.

juliesa on January 22, 2013 at 9:28 AM

This idea that liberals will just get rid of themselves is just ill-founded. Where did the vast majority of liberals come from, outside of minorities?

Conservative families.

When you concede the argument, the other side wins by default.

[31] Foolish, dissolute, without affection, without fidelity, without mercy. [32] Who, having known the justice of God, did not understand that they who do such things, are worthy of death; and not only they that do them, but they also that consent to them that do them.

Gird your loins.

At the bare minimum though, not a dime of taxpayer money should be spent on abortions. You wanna terminate a pregnancy? That’s between you, your doctor, and God. Don’t bring me or my tax dollars into it.

Doughboy on January 22, 2013 at 8:56 AM

I’d settle for even this. If it’s impossible to make baby-murder illegal, at the very least quit making my tax dollars pay for Susan Q. Sluttypants’ bailout.

I would like to see Roe v. Wade overturned simply because it’s bad law. The case never should have been heard by the SCOTUS in the first place and the court mangled the constitution beyond recognition in making what was really a political decision. The issue should have been left to the states and the people where it was being dealt with at the time, and nine men in black had no business arrogantly deciding these metaphysical questions for us.

RadClown on January 22, 2013 at 8:28 AM

I accept your argument as fully as I accept my premise of repealing it on moral grounds. SCOTUS should not even have heard a syllable of the case; the states were perfectly able to decide for their d@mn selves and should’ve been able to do so!

As it is, the only remaining ways to fight Roe are chip away at it with penny-ante laws or for a governor to outright declare “I refuse to recognize that abomination in my state.” Which would basically be a declaration of open rebellion.

They want it from the federal level because they very much dislike state and local rights. A bit OT but, I had a guy ranting to me that he can’t believe that in this day and age that we still have state and local police and laws. His feeling is that all police and laws should be at a federal level in order to bring equality to everyone in the country.
Dr. Frank Enstine on January 22, 2013 at 9:20 AM

That’s not off topic at all. That’s what Roe v. Wade is all about: whether the United States Constitution gives the federal government the right to dictate abortion law to the states.

That’s why this is more than just a social issue to liberals. As long as this utterly insane and idiotic “Constitutional precedent” stands, there is literally nothing outside the Supreme Court’s reach.

Much of this change, the NBC/WSJ pollsters say, is coming from African Americans, Latinos and women without college degrees — all of whom increasingly oppose the Supreme Court decision from being overturned.

By the way, did the writer who wrote this actually get PAID for it?