Space
Revealed: What warp speed would really look like
Instead, the view out the windows of a vehicle traveling through hyperspace would be more like a centralized bright glow, calculations show.
The finding contradicts the familiar images of stretched out starlight streaking past the windows of the Millennium Falcon in “Star Wars” and the Starship Enterprise in “Star Trek.” In those films and television series, as spaceships engage warp drive or hyperdrive and approach the speed of light, stars morph from points of light to long streaks that stretch out past the ship.









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In other words, as boring as Star Trek: The Motion Picture, or as annoying as the Star Wars prequels.
Ed Morrissey on January 16, 2013 at 10:06 PM
Will there be 4 lights?
lorien1973 on January 16, 2013 at 10:07 PM
They’ve gone to plaid!
thebrokenrattle on January 16, 2013 at 10:09 PM
Anything that can be dopplar shifted in one direction and be dopplar shifted back in the other direction.
SWalker on January 16, 2013 at 10:11 PM
THERE! ARE!….. FOUR! LIGHTS!
ThePrez on January 16, 2013 at 10:14 PM
It really takes these people this long to figure out what it would look like when traveling at warp speed?
Here is a hint… Light travels at a specific speed in any given medium. As a ship travels faster, it will blue shift all things in front of you and red shift everything behind you… As you reach the speed of light, what you will find is that everything in front of you is black, as your eyes cannot see infinitely blue shifted light rays, in fact, you would not even be able to see anything inside the ship either, and looking behind you, you would see the same black nothing, why? because it will have red shifted infinitely and moved outside your visual range of electromagnetic sensing capabilities.
Please tell me that this was stephen hawking!
astonerii on January 16, 2013 at 10:14 PM
Perhaps if you read the article…………….
Solaratov on January 16, 2013 at 10:21 PM
A little brighter than I figured.
It didn’t say how fast the traveler would be going, so maybe the effect would change with speed. Go faster and the cone of light forward would be smaller and more defined with every other direction like being covered with a dark blanket.
Yes, I spend a lot of time trying to figure this stuff out.
Interstellar navigation and space warfare are a lot tougher than current fiction makes them out to be.
cozmo on January 16, 2013 at 10:21 PM
Motion is relative…you’re aboard the doppler-shifted spaceship, meaning your eyes are traveling the same speed as well. This means you would see anything inside the ship normally.
James on January 16, 2013 at 10:23 PM
Saberhagen’s Berserker series of stories had screens or adjustable tinting on the windows to prevent passengers from looking out of a FTL ship. Apparently seeing what amounted to advanced mathematics would cause a space version of seasickness in almost all humans.
I thought that was a very clever idea.
(And thanks again to whoever suggested those books.)
rogerb on January 16, 2013 at 10:26 PM
It would look like bad news if you’d left the oven on.
viking01 on January 16, 2013 at 10:26 PM
GEEKS!!!!!
44Magnum on January 16, 2013 at 10:29 PM
You gotta’ point to go with that?
cozmo on January 16, 2013 at 10:29 PM
Doesn’t anyone use foglights any more?
Flange on January 16, 2013 at 10:31 PM
That’s why you really need an Improbability Drive. You only have to deal with the occasional whale and bowl of petunias.
Ed Morrissey on January 16, 2013 at 10:34 PM
I prefer going to plaid.
cozmo on January 16, 2013 at 10:39 PM
Well, that’s good to know. I know I’ll sleep better tonight.
The Rogue Tomato on January 16, 2013 at 10:40 PM
Well that looks boring. If I ever get a chance at light speed travel, I’ll seriously consider dropping acid to make the effect a little more impressive.
BL@KBIRD on January 16, 2013 at 10:42 PM
I’m guessing that you never get to where you’re going. You know, that whole relativity thingy means time stops as you reach the event horizon.
platypus on January 16, 2013 at 10:44 PM
And let’s not forget that whole folding space thing. If you can fold space so that two points touch, are you really traveling there or simply turning around and there it is?
platypus on January 16, 2013 at 10:46 PM
Your stock just went way up with me, Ed.
RIP Doug Adams.
gryphon202 on January 16, 2013 at 10:54 PM
That is the definition of space warping, Plat. I like Frank Herbert’s interpretation of “foldspace” from the Dune novels. Virtually instantaneous, though not quite literally instant.
gryphon202 on January 16, 2013 at 10:56 PM
Or go straight to Ludicrous Speed.
John the Libertarian on January 16, 2013 at 11:08 PM
Slow poke.
cozmo on January 16, 2013 at 11:09 PM
Our country and way of life are heading into oblivion at warp speed and it doesn’t look anything like either of those pictures.
stukinIL4now on January 16, 2013 at 11:24 PM
Hello? Has anyone ever heard of “computer correction”? We constantly use computers to calculate corrections of data to display what is actually happening, not just what we are seeing.
/Duh
RoadRunner on January 16, 2013 at 11:33 PM
If faster than light travel is somehow possible, it seems unlikely to involve accelerating up to, or very close to, the speed of light (like an aircraft approaching, and then breaking the sound barrier, as the article seems to assume). We understand the physics of things travelling up to 0.999999999 c very well (routinely studied in controlled experiments), and there are *serious* problems with accelerating a macroscopic object anywhere close to that speed.
First, it is horribly inefficient. The energy required to accelerate something from 0.99 c to 0.999 c is more than twice the energy required to accelerate it from 0 to 0.99 c. And even to get to 0.99 c requires over six times the rest energy of the object. To accelerate even a tiny spaceship (1000 kg, roughly the mass of an automobile) to even 0.99 c would require several times more energy than the world currently consumes in total every year.
Second, the acceleration required to approach the speed of light in a Hollywood-friendly amount of time would vaporize any known materials, and obviously be lethal to any passengers (in Star Trek, “inertial dampeners” are what prevent the crew from being turned into jelly every time the ship goes to warp…). To reach to even the unimpressive speed of 0.8 c at a comfortable and safe acceleration of 1g would take almost a year.
Third, there is the problem of time dilation (the twins “paradox”). Assuming the normal rules of physics still hold during the sublight part of the trip, anyone who leaves earth, accelerates close to the speed of light, and returns, will find that centuries or millenia have passed on earth while they were gone.
Fourth, there is the radiation problem, which is even worse than alluded to in the article. At relative speeds close enough to speed of light, collision with even a single Hydrogen atom would transfer enough energy to the spacecraft to vaporize it.
LagunaDave on January 17, 2013 at 12:42 AM
Geez Dave, you just got me so depressed I deleted my Star Trek library.
platypus on January 17, 2013 at 1:19 AM
I read in a 60s era “making” book that the streaks in Trek were from space dust hitting the deflector shield. That’s why they looked close to the ship.
Dr. Frank Enstine on January 17, 2013 at 6:53 AM
You really should consult with Plinkett about that. He disagrees and says you really don’t understand the movie.
fossten on January 17, 2013 at 7:25 AM
^^^only in reference to the first ST movie, not the SW prequels…
fossten on January 17, 2013 at 7:26 AM