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Colin Powell: The GOP still looks down on minorities
He slammed Sarah Palin‘s “shuck and jive” comments from last year about President Obama and criticized Republican’s use of the word “lazy” to describe the president.
“Why do senior Republican leaders tolerate this kind of discussion within the party?” he asked.
The choice of the next Republican candidate may be less important than what the party actually stands for, Powell added.
“If it’s just going to represent the far right-wing of the political spectrum, I think the party is in difficulty,” he said.
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melle1228 on January 13, 2013 at 1:29 PM
You got it! The propertied white men of the American Revolution, who had the right to freely assemble, who had the right to amass arms, who had the right to travel where they needed to in order to strategize, who weren’t working from sun down to sun up (they had slaves doing it for them), their ability to revolt was entirely equivalent to slave populations. /This Sarcasm Tag is Needed Due to Your Massive Stupidity.
libfreeordie on January 13, 2013 at 1:29 PM
It is unfortunately true that many conservatives and Republicans are not interested in reaching out to Black people. It is also true that allegiance to the Democrat party has been a nightmare for Black folks in this country. A. FRICKIN. NIGHTMARE.
I don’t have the answer. I’m conservative though although I was a Democrat at one point — how can you not be when all of your education tells you that Republicans are evil racists and Democrats are the very angels of the lord? Fortunately I woke up to the rabid racism and sexism of the Democrat party only to find the Republicans either clueless or incompetent. Still I remain a conservative because it offers the best ideas for the most people.
And Colin POwell is a man for whom I have lost almost all respect.
theblackcommenter on January 13, 2013 at 1:29 PM
You’re a loser who is simply looking for excuses why you’re a failure. You took the path of least resistance to get where you are.
Oh and you still support sex between minors and adults.
Who made you perverted? The GOP?
CW on January 13, 2013 at 1:30 PM
You have *no idea* how you would react to the oppression of slavery and the evidence that reprisal would mean certain torture and death. These people were trying to survive conditions that none of us can understand. They were not citizens, they had no protection before the law, they had no recourse to the state, *nothing.* And they saw what happened to people who were rebellious, it wasn’t pretty. You’ve never been in that situation, and you would probably do what most of them did, just try and survive. This is *exactly* what I mean about the GOP and this gun stuff and black voters. When you say “well shoot, I woulda rose up” you beclown yourself.
libfreeordie on January 13, 2013 at 1:30 PM
Libfree , you have never told me why you let your lover post under your HA screen name. Why is that?
CW on January 13, 2013 at 1:31 PM
I love how you accuse me of stupidity and do not realize that I was not comparing their situations but the PENALTY that they would suffer had they been caught bearing arms against their keepers.
Penalty for bearing arms against the people in power is UNIVERSAL. And yet, people still do it to escape tyranny, slavery etc. What you want us to believe is that it was better for slaves to be enslaved rather than risk possibly dying had they had and take up arms against their oppressor. I think that makes YOU stupid.
melle1228 on January 13, 2013 at 1:32 PM
Like you would know. You’re projecting because you’re a wuss who looks for excuses and then you took the path of least resistance in life.
CW on January 13, 2013 at 1:32 PM
Please define “reaching out”.
CW on January 13, 2013 at 1:34 PM
Props for the honesty of this post. But, again, there’s such a profound confusion about history evidenced here. Can you honestly say you’ve done a comparative analysis of life for black people in the U.S. before the end of Jim Crow and the black community’s allegiance to the Democrats after Jim Crow? And if so, under what metrics are you concluding that the problems the black community expriences are due exclusively to the allegiance to Democrats.
I happen to agree that the Democrats are only the lesser of two evils as far as black voters are concerned. But you can not expect black folks to sign up for the GOP when in 1964, the GOP nominee eas against the civil rights act and in 1968 and 1972, the GOP ran an explicit “southern strategy” to attract disgruntled Jim Crow supporters to their side and in 1980, the Presidential nominee ran a campaign that was explicitly about returning to the “old ways” of America. That’s four elections in a row when the GOP presidential candidate aligned himself with elements who opposed the ending of Jim Crow under the rubric of “state’s rights.” Why would any black person vote for such a candidate?
libfreeordie on January 13, 2013 at 1:35 PM
LOL- Neither do you sweetpea, but you make some very subjective statements like you have the line in knowing this. And many enslaved populations have armed themselves and freed themselves. Blacks are not the only people in the history of the world to become slaves.
melle1228 on January 13, 2013 at 1:35 PM
Don’t stop there, do go on. Tell us about the Birth of a Nation, KKK’s genesis, Jim Crow, the Dem’s re-segregation of the military post-civil war, or even the Civil Rights actions.
While you’re at it, just what did LBJ mean by having “you” voting democrat for the next 200 years – doesn’t sound like he was referring to having your best interests at heart, just that you’d be a useful stooge for the dems.
AH_C on January 13, 2013 at 1:36 PM
We’re going to find racism all over the political spectrum. The liberals thrive on tribalism and victimization. But the core of conservative values is belief in individual rights and responsibility. I don’t care if you’re purple with pink polkadots as long as you’re providing me with a good or a service that I am willing to pay for.
John the Libertarian on January 13, 2013 at 1:38 PM
I knew it was only a matter of time that you would bring up the mythological southern strategy. You do realize that only two members of the Dixiecrats ever went Republican. The rest slunk right back into the Democratic Party. Bill Clinton’s mentor and Al Gore’s father both voted against the Civil Right’s act. And the Democratic party had a KKK member in its rank for YEARS..
melle1228 on January 13, 2013 at 1:39 PM
What is so hypocritical about Colon (and his Democrat “supporters”) is that he and they all forget many aspects of his own history.
Such as how AA enabled him to rocket up the ranks of the military (which even he himself has admitted).
Or how he was widely praised by Democrats in 2002 for his speech to the UN about Iraq’s WMDs. NY Times “Editor” Bill Keller even used the phrase “skillful parsing of the evidence” to describe his presentation.
And they totally forget how later many members of their Party, not the Republican Party, called him a “House N*gro” and “Uncle Tom” for lying for Bush and Cheney over those WMDs. While at the same time calling Condi Rice “Aunt Jemimah”.
But he’s right. Only the GOP looks down on minorities. I wonder what time the triple moons rise on his world?
Del Dolemonte on January 13, 2013 at 1:39 PM
Bingo! Conservatives don’t single out the black voter because they assume that they want what all people want: success, family, education and freedom.
melle1228 on January 13, 2013 at 1:41 PM
If you agree that the circumstances which made revolution possible were completely different for slaves than it was for the American revolutionaries, then why does the one symmetry in the penalty matter to a discussion of whether guns would have liberated slaves? Slaves attempted to acquire guns, and some brave souls even used them against their masters, but the possibility of organizing a revolt was almost non-existent for all of the reasons stated in my post. Guns do not exist in a vacuum they are part of a society. How people feel about them is contextualized within that society. And so yes, the history of guns as a source of liberation for black people is a heck of a lot more complicated than it is for whites. And so you’re just not going to persuade anyone with this “guns = liberty” crap. The historical record shows that in the vast majority of cases black people with guns get killed.
libfreeordie on January 13, 2013 at 1:42 PM
LIBFREE YOU are part of the poison that hurts many blacks. They buy into your preaching about victimization and then continue to wait for Big Brother. You’re doing far more harm than good.
Again :
Tell me why anyone should respect you considering you support the legalization of sex between adults and kids.
and
Tell me why you let your lover post on HA using your name.
CW on January 13, 2013 at 1:43 PM
Sweetie, this is a matter of historical record at this point….
And you do realize that the “southern strategy” wasn’t about recruiting Dixiecrat politicians, it was about recruiting white southern voters who, almost uniformly, had supported Jim Crow.
libfreeordie on January 13, 2013 at 1:45 PM
But the libfree’s want their “frees” . That is quite clear.
CW on January 13, 2013 at 1:47 PM
Want to understand the persistence of black poverty? Its not because of black voters going democrat or because of “cultures of dependency” under welfare. It is because of that simple fact right there.
libfreeordie on January 13, 2013 at 1:48 PM
OMG they went after voters. /
CW on January 13, 2013 at 1:48 PM
What I mean by reaching out is simply this: the only people offering any solutions to the issues that confront large segments of Black Americans are Democrats. There are entire districts of the country wherein Republicans don’t even bother to campaign, talk about conservative ideas or proposals or otherwise try to break through the monopoly of left-wing ideology that is prompted in society. Candidates all too frequently make comments that frankly sound borderline racist, or at least indicate that they really aren’t concerned at all about the problems facing anyone other than suburban whites.
Some ideas: Why don’t republicans invest in youth clubs in inner-city high schools focused on achievement and entrepreneurship? These are things that would be VERY popular and counter the gov’t dependency agenda.
Why isn’t there a strong and sustained push to focus on school choice, which is also popular among Black Americans?
Why doesn’t the Republican party develop some candidate schools to groom young up & coming Black men & women for local political office?
You would be surprised at how many Black people would be behind these ideas, but they are not being offered. They are only hearing from Democrats.
For quite a long time Black people voted for Republicans because they saw that Republicans were concerned about their interests — they were the party of free man and free markets. They stood up against racists unions that excluding Blacks from participation. They promoted policies that enabled the Black man to have a fair chance to compete. They were the anti-racist party. By now though Republicans are seen as the party for rich white corporations who only care that White people are able to preserve their advantages in society.
I’m not saying that all these perceptions are true, but they are real.
theblackcommenter on January 13, 2013 at 1:50 PM
Do you know anything about Goldwater or are you just repeating talking points?
visions on January 13, 2013 at 1:50 PM
Yes it is due to your dependency on Big Govt and AA.
It is also because of attitudes like yours. You’re a loser . That is crystal.
Man up freak.
CW on January 13, 2013 at 1:50 PM
Yes, I know. I was stating that the base of racism that made the Democratic party never left, since the southern strategy accuses the GOP of trying to get those same racist voters.
http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2012/07/11/the-southern-strategy-myth-and-the-lost-majority/
Of course it isn’t that simple, but this is a blog and not a place for a complex dissertation. I do know that tyranny historically is stopped by overwhelming force sometimes political and sometimes economical, but more often than not physical. And you can’t tell me if Africans in Africa had ovwerwhelming firepower over the traders that came for them; that there would have been a slave trade..
Yeah and right now; it is blacks killing blacks. That is all on your “culture.”
melle1228 on January 13, 2013 at 1:51 PM
Obviously, Colin Powell must have viewed the media’s “sanitized” version of the RNC national convention when everytime a minority spoke, the camera cut away.
onlineanalyst on January 13, 2013 at 1:55 PM
No, two decades ago that could have been an excuse. It is not logical now, because the opportunities for education are overwhelming for blacks.
Your “culture” you talk about has more to do with the poverty of now a days. The lack of black fathers in the home(single motherhood is the single best indicator of growing up in poverty).
melle1228 on January 13, 2013 at 1:55 PM
Does the same historical record show how many of those weapons were legally purchased and followed the existing gun laws?
onlineanalyst on January 13, 2013 at 1:57 PM
theblackcommenter on January 13, 2013 at 1:50 PM
I think you have superb ideas. The one barrier I see is that the black community has to be open to Republicans coming to their districts. I don’t see a lot of that. And as far as grooming black politicians, great ideas, but I am not sure if I was black I would want the pressure from my own people that comes from being a black Republican.
melle1228 on January 13, 2013 at 1:58 PM
That was in 1947. It’s 2013.
How is it that Koreans, Chinese, blacks from the Caribbean, middle-easterners, Indians, Latinos, etc. can open and operate businesses in poor, traditionally African-American neighborhoods, as they have done for decades?
It’s a difference in cultures. African-American culture didn’t used to be the way it is now. Decades of social experimentation by Leftists have done terrible damage. -That- is the reason for persistence of poverty.
visions on January 13, 2013 at 1:58 PM
These are fantastic ideas. Jack Kemp was for empowerment zones in which public housing was gradually given as private ownership and incentives were given for local businesses to thrive. And school choice is a HUGELY popular conservative issue. Newt Gingrich even said what I’ve been saying for years, that school choice is the civil rights issue of our era.
John the Libertarian on January 13, 2013 at 2:03 PM
Colon is the azzhole who used hue, abusing the political spectrum, to advance, any which way he could.
I’d prefer that he be a declared communist. What a creep he is, a man without a soul.
MLK died for nothing.
Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 2:19 PM
In America anyone who wishes to be in chains doesn’t deserve to live free.
Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 2:20 PM
Note to the idiots – Obama claims to be the first black president, twice now and the whining has never been more. What will satisfy you?
Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 2:23 PM
lib, you don’t deserver to live free. You are the eternal whiner. You made it to where you are based on hue alone. What else do you want? I know who you are, btw.
Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 2:24 PM
You have my sympathy. I’d be daily tempted to duct-tape his mouth and encase his hands in concrete to stop the whining.
MelonCollie on January 13, 2013 at 2:25 PM
Obama’s AmeriKa
What exactly has Obama done for the blacks in AmeriKa? See black youth unemployment under Obama. Wake up, fools.
Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 2:25 PM
More fun to observe the potential of unlimited idiocy, funded by you, the hard-working taxpayers. He is the ultimate scum in AmeriKa.
Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 2:26 PM
First, it’s “their”, you the ‘erudite’ one.
Second, in Obama’s case he is the first less than half black president.
Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 2:29 PM
Zing.
MelonCollie on January 13, 2013 at 2:29 PM
You use your good brain.
Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 2:30 PM
You offer terrific examples. The GOP/conservative effort must start at the grass-roots level, and it should have financial support from the state and national levels.
Romney did speak to the NAACP group and received applause for numerous points. He also went into Philadelphia neighborhoods to promote school choice, but he was harrassed by the local community for his efforts.
Unfortunately when our nationally known politicians enter into the arena with this discussion, they are belittled by the race-baiters as panderers.
onlineanalyst on January 13, 2013 at 2:37 PM
No one prevents you or anyone to succeed on America, no one. Immigrants, legal or illegal, come to America and make it, in no time. If they can, from absolute scratch, so can you, with all the advantages and bennies. YOU made it by stealing from others’ labor. You are scum who teaches looting from the system. You have never produced a thing, none to be proud of. I hope you get your justice some day. I hope get ‘rewarded’ for all the looting you’ve done, based on hue alone.
Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 2:37 PM
When I was a teenager and my father told me about the history of housing projects, he mentioned that when they were first built people were excited to move into them because they were so much better than the slum housing they replaced. My father said when he was a boy he wanted to move into them because they were so nice, but his father refused because he didn’t want to go on ‘the dole’ as a matter of pride. Of course they had become so run down and crime ridden, my father was glad that his father had made that choice.
Even then I remember thinking, “If they really wanted to empower the people, they could have made the housing projects into rent to own apartments, so that the poor people who lived in them would eventually own their apartment, be able to sell it or whatever. Then they would take better care of it AND not be poor”
Strange how a 14 year old boy can have this idea and it escape the so-called brilliant people in Washington
theblackcommenter on January 13, 2013 at 2:42 PM
Colin likes the liberal cocktail party circuit and knows these type of comments will keep the invites coming.
tommyboy on January 13, 2013 at 2:42 PM
Powell’s comments are deeply disappointing.
Calling a President “lazy” is racist now?
“Shuck and jive” is racist?
But telling a black audience that a white politician “wants to put y’all back in chains” is OK, presumably.
As long as the white politician is Republican, of course.
LagunaDave on January 13, 2013 at 2:43 PM
i’m black and i wanted to say… theblackcommenter has some good points (although colin powell does not!) the GOP needs to put more emphasis on things like school choice helping minorities, and more emphasis on how liberal policies hurt minorities. and definitely, stop being so afraid of the inner cities. as someone who’s never lived in the inner city i can still say that i see unfair comments from conservatives all the time about how people who live in those areas are just thugs or something. (not that everyone in the inner cities is a minority. but still)
oh and here’s something i see on conservative sites all the time: when there’s a news story about a black person committing a crime or doing something stupid, you all keep talking about how the person is black. when a white person commits a crime or does something stupid, the person’s white race is never mentioned. you only mentioned the person’s race when they are black. (i remember how when adam lanza, a white person, shot all those people at the school… some people here were talking about minority crime rates.) sometimes i see comments (on conservative sites) that seem racist and the person making the comment doesn’t even realize it! think before you comment.
Sachiko on January 13, 2013 at 2:48 PM
If you’re not already doing these – pls. consider going on TV and writing books. Of course, you’ll be Allen Wested, or Dr. Sowelled, but you do have a brain and a soul.
The moochers/looters are eternal whining scum. The latter need the former, to win elections, while they keep them in the ‘plantations’. Obama could redistribute all the income in the US and they’d still be whining about “…doesn’t take care of blacks and etc.”. Obama doesn’t want to help them, by freeing them. The leftists are not fro freedom and equality of choice; they are just for living good, the few of them. libfreeordie is part of that elite, the one which keeps the poor poor. Otherwise he’d be doing something against it and not promote for more of it.
Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 2:48 PM
Powell’s wife was always a leftist scum. He likely was but used all the parties to advance. Don’t make me go into details. He is a man who’s never had a soul, a user like no other, ever.
Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 2:51 PM
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