British priests: Gay marriage will see a return to Catholic persecution
Their fear is that Catholics who believe in the traditional meaning of marriage would effectively be excluded from some jobs – in the same way as Catholics were barred from many professions from the Reformation until the 19th century.
It said: “After centuries of persecution, Catholics have, in recent times, been able to be members of the professions and participate fully in the life of this country.
“Legislation for same-sex marriage, should it be enacted, will have many legal consequences, severely restricting the ability of Catholics to teach the truth about marriage in their schools, charitable institutions or places of worship.
“It is meaningless to argue that Catholics and others may still teach their beliefs about marriage in schools and other arenas if they are also expected to uphold the opposite view at the same time.”
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My ‘give-a-crap-o-meter’ doesn’t even budge, and here is why:
These same Bishops are probably perfectly fine with most other aspects of the nanny-state the UK has. Instead of preaching liberty and non-dependence on gov’t, they have gone along with it, and probably support it directly.
How could they have ever foreseen that the nanny-state could work against their interests…except many of us are not in the least surprised.
Mess with the bull, get the horns.
blindside on January 12, 2013 at 4:29 PM
He’s right, but it’s not just Catholics that will be persecuted. Any Christian that actually follows Christ’s teachings will be persecuted.
njrob on January 12, 2013 at 4:40 PM
But there’s no gay agenda, they say.
They loathe anyone who points out that high-risk sexual conduct is bad for those who engage in it and for society.
BuckeyeSam on January 12, 2013 at 4:55 PM
Simple solutions to fears of persecution: stop being bigots. It’s hard to feel sympathy towards people who have such an easy solution.
thuja on January 12, 2013 at 4:55 PM
So we have to capitulate on our deeply held religious beliefs or else we can’t join the club? I’ll take persecution.
obladioblada on January 12, 2013 at 4:59 PM
White House petitioned to label Catholic Church a ‘hate group’
Thus the real goal of the progressive homosexual agenda – the outlawing of Christianity. Gay “marriage” is just the first step in this process.
Rebar on January 12, 2013 at 5:00 PM
More correctly:
Homosexual marriage will see a return to Christian persecution
While British CINOs wholeheartedly march in lockstep to everything their leftist govt decrees, true saints will follow the Lord & his Scriptures, no matter the cost.
BTW, saint simply means Christian.
itsnotaboutme on January 12, 2013 at 5:02 PM
Only one problem; we’re already seeing some of the bigotry rearing it’s ugly head from the militant gay side. Referring to straight couples as breeders (with sneering derision) and worse. Most gay and straight members of society can and do live together in peace, but the bigotry on both sides will eventually cause even good people to choose sides, even if they don’t particularly like the side they choose.
john1schn on January 12, 2013 at 5:02 PM
…In no way am I implying that Catholics are not Christians.
I’m just saying that all Christians will be, or rather, are being persecuted there.
itsnotaboutme on January 12, 2013 at 5:04 PM
LOL- What you are basically saying is persecution is a okay with you; if someone shares an opposing viewpoint. Maybe YOU should stop being a bigot.
melle1228 on January 12, 2013 at 5:04 PM
Following Christ is not bigoted. You don’t get to redefine words moonbat.
njrob on January 12, 2013 at 5:07 PM
Pretty much. That is the whole reason someone like me who supported gay marriage before it was in vogue to do so no longer does. The agenda became less about live and let live and more about forcibly changing other people and using the law to do so. And people like Thuja are perfectly okay with someone getting persecuted as long as it doesn’t effect them. The problem is that when the government persecutes any group they usually move on to others even useless whiny leftist tools.
melle1228 on January 12, 2013 at 5:09 PM
I didn’t write the Bible, liberal turdbrain, so go take up your thumb-sucking ‘bigotry’ argument with Him. And even if I had, it wouldn’t negate the fact that such perversion comes with a list of mental and physical health risks as long as your nose. (know what AIDS used to be called? GRIDS – Gay Related Immunodeficiency Syndrome. Because the initial spread almost completely came from gays. Be sure to thank them.)
MelonCollie on January 12, 2013 at 5:13 PM
Well Said!
HondaV65 on January 12, 2013 at 5:33 PM
Damn what a bigot you are!
Condemning homosexuals because of AIDS? Okay – well then let’s condemn all people of European heritage to hell for spreading smallpox to the natives living in the Americas!
Bubonic Plague – wasn’t that mostly a European thing too? Damn dirty European Caucasoids!!
HondaV65 on January 12, 2013 at 5:36 PM
Of course, the Muslims will be able to talk openly about executing homosexuals but will face no persecution whatsoever.
Odysseus on January 12, 2013 at 6:03 PM
Ditto, you hateful bigot.
theCork on January 12, 2013 at 6:46 PM
That is correct. Orwell had it right. Some animals are more equal than others.
njrob on January 12, 2013 at 8:19 PM
Smallpox isn’t an STD, which as the name implies is mainly spread through (extramarital, irresponsible) sex.
You can’t get AIDS or gonorrhea merely by being in close proximity to a pervert, Hon-duhhh. Try to keep that difference in mind if it isn’t too much for your puny liberal brain. One of the biggest causes of the rampant spread of AIDS and many other modern STDs is the acceptance of sexual deviancy. And soon you can add ‘enforced normalization’ to that list, as Christians are persecuted merely for directly quoting the Bible on such issues.
MelonCollie on January 12, 2013 at 9:25 PM
I have precious little sympathy for the bishops and such, they’re the ones who bear most of the responsibility for this situation. The average Catholic, however, will bear most of the pain when things actually go rotten as they don’t have the money or connections.
MelonCollie on January 12, 2013 at 9:28 PM
That is of course the goal: to dismiss anyone who doesn’t accept your view of same-sex marriage as “bigots.”
The better answer: quit accusing people of being bigots when you don’t get your way.
There is nothing about homosexuality that deserves all this deference. It’s just another sexual perversion, not an entire new class of human beings. There are still exactly two sexes in the human race: male and female. The fact that some males and some females are not interested in normal sexual relations does not create new genders or classes of people. Nor does it create discrimination when homosexual men can’t marry someone of the same sex.
This whole agenda is based on the assumption that homosexuality must be treated as if it is equivalent to normal sexuality. It is not. Homosexuality does not produce children or the next generation of a nation. Homosexual relationships therefore are not the fundamental building block of a society, unlike marriages.
There are plenty of good reasons to reject the idea of same-sex marriage without blaming it all on bigotry. The reason it gets blamed on bigotry is simple ad hominem name-calling by same-sex marriage advocates like yourself.
In short, the problem is YOU.
There Goes The Neighborhood on January 12, 2013 at 11:53 PM
More name-calling. Homosexuality does in fact come with mental and physical risks. We spent nearly an entire decade in recent history being constantly assured that the AIDS epidemic would destroy the health of entire nations, because it would destroy (normal) heterosexuals as well as the homosexuals. Somehow, the only heterosexuals affected were those also playing around with homosexuality. There were a few other rare instances of AIDS showing up … from people who were exposed to bodily fluids from an AIDS-infested individual who was homosexual.
If there were no health risks associated with homosexuality, then AIDS would have spread to the general population just as persistently a long time ago. We were assured it would happen, in fact.
It’s time to face facts: Male homosexuality involves sticking the male sex organ where it really doesn’t belong, and that is a nasty environment. This one fact explains the greater health risks associated with homosexuality. But nobody wants to talk about it.
Yes, I’m aware it’s not unheard of between men and women, either. But it’s a lot more rare. It’s not necessary for normal coitus, but it is necessary for homosexuality.
There Goes The Neighborhood on January 13, 2013 at 12:06 AM