White House gun plan: An end run around the NRA
During one session with a dozen religious leaders on Wednesday, Biden made a specific request to those gathered to preach to their congregations about the importance of enacting stronger gun control laws, said the Rev. Michael McBride, a participant in the meeting and a community organizer for the PICO Network, an alliance of faith-based organizations.
“The vice president shared how he felt this was one of the most important meetings of all the meetings, that the faith leaders, the faith community has a very unique role in engaging in the moral persuasion necessary to address the gun challenges in our country,” McBride said. “He called upon us to take that seriously and that the administration and everyone involved is going to be looking to us to help to make that argument across the different faith traditions.”…
The message echoed one delivered by Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius during a Tuesday conference call with major philanthropic groups, including the Open Society Foundation, the McCormick Foundation, the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and the California Endowment…
“This kind of statement just widens the divide between NRA members, who are quite reasonable people, and the NRA’s lobbyists, who are solely in the business of creating conflict to raise money,” said Mark Glaze, the director of New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s Mayors Against Illegal Guns group. “It galvanizes not just Democrats, but people in the middle — which includes a lot of NRA members.”
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Shocking. The meetings were not to inquire about solutions that would work but to coordinate getting the anti-gun message out.
gwelf on January 11, 2013 at 12:38 PM
ROFL
You halfwits have noooo idea what you’re doing. Besides, it wasn’t but a few days ago that all gun owners were one step away from being mass murderers; can’t take that back.
Bishop on January 11, 2013 at 12:39 PM
REALLY? It is the faith leaders role to preach about the IMMORALITY of the improper use of ANY weapon. Not about any given implement used with hatred.
michaelo on January 11, 2013 at 12:39 PM
Flexible
cozmo on January 11, 2013 at 12:42 PM
Any one with a lick of brains will see through this and if you do have brains, do you or do you not believe in the 2nd? I don’t care who tells me guns are bad, I want to be able to defend our home against the likes of bho/team to overtake our nation and keep us unarmed!
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letget on January 11, 2013 at 12:43 PM
Isn’t this getting pretty close to government interfering with religion?
Mitoch55 on January 11, 2013 at 12:43 PM
Overreach. As expected. ’14 will again herald a huge republican gain.
tommy71 on January 11, 2013 at 12:45 PM
FIFY
Galt2009 on January 11, 2013 at 12:46 PM
What are they going to say – beat your guns into ploughshares?
OldEnglish on January 11, 2013 at 12:46 PM
Abortion laws can’t be based around religious beliefs.
Marriage laws can’t be based around religious beliefs.
Taxation laws can’t be based around religious beliefs.
Foreign aid laws can’t be based around religious beliefs.
But gun control all of a sudden is going to be based on preaching about the evils of guns by “the faith community”???
MikeA on January 11, 2013 at 12:46 PM
Then the NRA should counter by filing a federal lawsuit over separation of church and state.
Zaggs on January 11, 2013 at 12:57 PM
I don’t think that these people have a very firm grasp of reality.
besser tot als rot on January 11, 2013 at 12:58 PM
People of actual faith will not be dissuaded by Biden or his SS cronies.
There is only one type of illegal gun and that is the fully automatic machine gun type. So is it “Mayors against Machine Guns” or are these mayors just that ignorant?
HotAirian on January 11, 2013 at 1:00 PM
Just part of of Holders plan to brainwash folks about guns.
antipc on January 11, 2013 at 1:02 PM
What does the phrase “an end run around the NRA” mean in the context of action by the administration? It’s not like the NRA has any direct legislating power, so wouldn’t be the same as going outside of Congress. Getting out the message? The White House has much more power in getting its message across than the NRA; after all the WH has the “bully pulpit”. Why isn’t Obama on screen every day clamoring for the People to push for this gun grab? I’ll tell you why: he knows very well that he has to have his hands clean during the propaganda phase so as not to turn people against him even more.
In short, there is no end run around the NRA. There is opposition to the NRA and the employment of various surrogate to parrot that opposition at every conceivable moment. We are so screwed.
totherightofthem on January 11, 2013 at 1:03 PM
In Maryland there’s currently a three week backlog of background checks to purchase a handgun. Three months ago it was seven days.
In Maryland.
There are a lot of people, liberal and conservative, voting with their wallets. I don’t think they’re going to be able to drum up grassroots support for this nonsense.
PetecminMd on January 11, 2013 at 1:04 PM
He said ignoring the packed gun-shows, record weapons sales, and depleted ammunition stocks across the country.
Yeah, big gulf there.
Please return to your planet of origin, lefties.
chimney sweep on January 11, 2013 at 1:07 PM
So if the Administration, in what can only be described as an overly fascist move, wants churches to preach the political line…wouldn’t that endanger the non-profit status of those respective churches…..?
JohnTant on January 11, 2013 at 1:21 PM
+1000
Should be on a poster and plastered on every streetcorner in America.
rockmom on January 11, 2013 at 1:23 PM
The Progs use religious organizations when they need them and spit on them when they do not…control and compliance is their Marxist goal. Bad times are coming to America…
d1carter on January 11, 2013 at 1:25 PM
The NRA doesn’t enforce anything, he doesn’t need to do an “end run” around it. The Constitution is what he’s wanting to do an “end run” around.
mojo on January 11, 2013 at 1:43 PM
Tax Exempt, not non-profit, but point taken.
James on January 11, 2013 at 1:46 PM
That any member of any clergy would take seriously a government bureaucrat telling them what to preach is appalling on its face.
CurtZHP on January 11, 2013 at 1:52 PM
+1
d1carter on January 11, 2013 at 1:55 PM
Oh, yeah, RIGHT! Now the religious community has a unique role in moral persuasion, whereas when we’re talking about Obmacare and the HHS imposing health insurance requirements for birth control and abortifacients, it’s sit down and shut up, your fundamentalists christian nutballs, this is the law because we say it is.
Socratease on January 11, 2013 at 2:11 PM
Try that on Sunday and I’ll walk out in the middle of your “sermon”.
Joe Mama on January 11, 2013 at 2:21 PM
Excellent points.
More: this meme they’re pushing, that the NRA leadership is “out of touch” with their membership, is ludicrous. If anything, the membership wants the leadership to take an even tougher stance against any further infringments of their rights.
Rebar on January 11, 2013 at 2:21 PM
No, it’s just their job to preach the liberal line from their bully pulpit. You see it’s just dandy that they preach politics as long as it’s the “right” kind of politics.
Dr. Frank Enstine on January 11, 2013 at 2:26 PM
Thurday morning: White House tells NRA: More guns are not the answer.
Thursday afternoon: President Obama signs bill giving himself and family armed security in perpetuity.
Socratease on January 11, 2013 at 2:29 PM
That’s what I was thinking. I don’t need to go to church to get ranted at with the liberal agenda. Suddenly all these hateful, bigoted and racist Christians are allies of the left. Imagine that. I just hope they remember how helpful they were to the cause when they have that progressive boot on their neck oppressing them. A perfect example of useful idiots.
Dr. Frank Enstine on January 11, 2013 at 2:32 PM
I wonder why he is paranoid? Why now and not in his last year? Doesn’t he get protection for ten years after anyway?
Dr. Frank Enstine on January 11, 2013 at 2:34 PM
I have great concern that that may be true. As soon as people realize a coup is taking place it will really hit the fan.
Dr. Frank Enstine on January 11, 2013 at 2:36 PM
They have to frame the NRA as a powerful agency that nobody can oppose. They have to convince people that the NRA controls everything related to firearms. Then BO is the savior and quite cunning as he outwits the NRA by passing gun laws that the majority of people in this country are demanding and would have if it were not for the all powerful NRA.
Dr. Frank Enstine on January 11, 2013 at 2:41 PM