Hey, let’s mint that trillion-dollar coin
In case you’re wondering, no, this wouldn’t be an inflationary exercise in printing money. Aside from the fact that printing money isn’t inflationary under current conditions, the Fed could and would offset the Treasury’s cash withdrawals by selling other assets or borrowing more from banks, so that in reality the U.S. government as a whole (which includes the Fed) would continue to engage in normal borrowing. Basically, this would just be an accounting trick, but that’s a good thing. The debt ceiling is a case of accounting nonsense gone malignant; using an accounting trick to negate it is entirely appropriate.
But wouldn’t the coin trick be undignified? Yes, it would — but better to look slightly silly than to let a financial and Constitutional crisis explode.
Now, the platinum coin may not be the only option. Maybe the president can simply declare that as he understands the Constitution, his duty to carry out Congressional mandates on taxes and spending takes priority over the debt ceiling. Or he might be able to finance government operations by issuing coupons that look like debt and act like debt but that, he insists, aren’t debt and, therefore, don’t count against the ceiling.









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There is no idea so asinine that Dr. Krugman will not embrace it.
Chuckles3 on January 11, 2013 at 10:32 AM
You advidsed Enron, didn’t you.
apostic on January 11, 2013 at 10:33 AM
Got no problem with it. Just make sure it is 40 feet across, 3 feet thick and weighs in at 22,700 tons of pure platinum to be worth face value.
michaelo on January 11, 2013 at 10:35 AM
Once the thought enters the echo chamber, it doesn’t exit until it’s implemented. Expect Lew (if he’s confirmed) to approve the measure.
nobar on January 11, 2013 at 10:35 AM
Says the former Enron adviser.
Good Lt on January 11, 2013 at 10:36 AM
O_O
Because there’s a conflict in every human heart between the rational and the irrational, between good and evil. The good does not always triumph. Sometimes the dark side overcomes what Lincoln called the better angels of our nature.
Every man has got a breaking point. You and I have. Paul Krugman has reached his. And very obviously, he has gone insane.
Bishop on January 11, 2013 at 10:37 AM
Paul, go have a salad somewhere. It’s folks like you that put us in this position. Your opinion is worthless.
blatantblue on January 11, 2013 at 10:38 AM
‘Toon of the Day: The $1 Trillion Wooden Nickel
Resist We Much on January 11, 2013 at 10:39 AM
He can “declare” anything he wants, but unless Congress raises the debt ceiling, he will be acting extra-constitutionally…and he knows it.
Resist We Much on January 11, 2013 at 10:42 AM
Someone take this man’s degree away from him before he hurts himself! He’s both a danger to himself and others!
Doomberg on January 11, 2013 at 10:42 AM
Imagine the tales Krugman’s therapist could tell.
Kataklysmic on January 11, 2013 at 10:42 AM
And if our “current conditions” don’t last, what then?
Leftists never, ever think past “stage one” of any proposal. It’s the hallmark of their ideology.
Lower and middle-income families to be hardest hit, as usual.
visions on January 11, 2013 at 10:42 AM
What a dope, a well paid dope. You know why he did’t take a job in this administration? Because he wouldn’t be just spewing stupid ideas out and complaining about everyone else, he’s have to implement or at least try to implement those ideas.
major dad on January 11, 2013 at 10:43 AM
We don’t have aliens from outerspace to invade our planet, so this is the next best alternative.
Ted Torgerson on January 11, 2013 at 10:44 AM
It’s already been discussed, the bill allows a “bullion” coin, that is a coin that is the actual value…such a coin, if Platinum, and 12″ thick would be 170 miles in diameter, quite a coin to mint.
Krugman is talking about regular coins that can have any denomination printed, but that is not how this particular law is written, it’s specifically states “bullion”…next time Paul, read and learn.
right2bright on January 11, 2013 at 10:45 AM
How many trillion dollar coins will I need to buy a loaf of bread in 10 years?
gwelf on January 11, 2013 at 10:46 AM
How does this guy have any credibility?
Charlemagne on January 11, 2013 at 10:47 AM
Stage 1: Mint a trillion dollar coin.
Stage 2: ????
Stage 3: Profit!
apostic on January 11, 2013 at 10:47 AM
As absurd and crazy as Krugman is, if you want a real laugh read the readers comment section. It is full of ignorance and stupidity at a level you just can’t find anywhere else on the interweb. Of course, it includes the token leftist still trying to blame Bush, but most of these people have no concept of basic monetary policy. Reading the comments is almost as scary as the thought that some people believe we can just mint some magic coin.
Ellis on January 11, 2013 at 10:49 AM
Now there is an idea only a liberal would come up with…creating something, calling it something else, pretending it’s something other than what it is called, and redefining words to make it “fit”…
Why not just say, debt is now called surplus, so let’s increase the surplus, it acts like a debt, looks like a debt, but we insist it’s a surplus…good grief, this guy actually gets paid money to spew this garbage, at least it looks like garbage, acts like garbage, but he insists it’s journalism…
right2bright on January 11, 2013 at 10:49 AM
Trillion dollar coin? Amateur hour, go big or go home!
Wake Up Progressives: The Trillion Dollar Coin Can Be Game-Changing!
It’s as simple as that.
mudskipper on January 11, 2013 at 10:50 AM
Historical reasons???
No, Ferret. Constitutional reasons!
You see, dummy, Article I, Section 8 not only states that Congress has the sole authority to Tax and to Spend, it also contains this nugget:
So, you DO actually need another vote to empower that borrowing.
Resist We Much on January 11, 2013 at 10:52 AM
When they find out we have trillion dollar coins they’ll invade.
gwelf on January 11, 2013 at 10:56 AM
I guess that depends on how much Enron Stock you were holding…
SWalker on January 11, 2013 at 10:56 AM
Can you actually prove that Krugman isn’t an alien from Somanus?
SWalker on January 11, 2013 at 10:59 AM
There is no such thing as a bad idea Krugman doesn’t support is there?
wildcat72 on January 11, 2013 at 10:59 AM
That is an insult to ferrets. I’d trust a ferret to manage our economy over Krugman.
gwelf on January 11, 2013 at 11:00 AM
A trillion dollar coin? That sounds like a goofy idea only played on TV.
Oh wait
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/01/simpsons-trillion-dollar-coin-bill-platinum-ceiling.html
I guess life now imitates art
antifederalist on January 11, 2013 at 11:02 AM
Sorry, Right2bright, your calculations are WAY off. As I listed: 40 feet in diameter, 3 feet thick, weighing in at 22,700 TONS- at current platinum prices. Not sure that much platinum exists.
michaelo on January 11, 2013 at 11:08 AM
No, it would not force the President to break the law. He would be forced to make priorities in payment, as required under Federal law, and to negotiate with a duly-elected “group of people.” Unless Mr Obama wants to be guilty of that from which he warned the Supreme Court, he should honour these “duly-constituted and passed law(s).” Anything less would not only be hypocritical and dishonest, it would be an impeachable offence…although I understand that his fellow Democrats would gleefully overlook such behaviour.
Under Federal law and the 14th Amendment, the validity of the public debt must not be questioned and it must be serviced prior to any other payments being made to anyone.
Debt Service:
December 2012: $95,736,594,801.52
November 2012: $25,068,968,472.99
October 2012: $12,922,741,407.27
Total for first 3 months of FY2013: $133,728,304,681.78
In FY2011, tax revenues were a little more than $2.4 trillion. In February 2012, tax revenues collected were $103.4 billion. In March 2012, tax revenues collected equaled ~$171.2. Debt service in February 2012 was $17.4 billion and in March it was $24.7 billion. The same receipts are expected, at minimum, and outlays for debt service are about the same for February and March as they were last year.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE CANNOT DEFAULT ON THE DEBT. BY LAW, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MUST PAY THE DEBT SERVICE FIRST.
Congress has not told the President how large every department must be or how many days per week Federal employees must work.
By the way, Paulie, how will Mr Obama be paying the $11 billion in pay raises that he gave to Federal employees – from Biden on down – via EXECUTIVE ORDER? Congress didn’t spend that!! Barack built that (expense) all on his own!
Resist We Much on January 11, 2013 at 11:12 AM
Nailed it.
Steve Eggleston on January 11, 2013 at 11:16 AM
Krugman doesn’t mention the other possibility: Obama could acknowledge the Congress, and make a deal with them.
He could, you know, compromise.
Steven Den Beste on January 11, 2013 at 11:17 AM
THIS White house has said that Krugman is the economist they read the most…. Talk about a mindless bubble running this country.
Bensonofben on January 11, 2013 at 11:18 AM
That doesn’t look like Lizzy Warren.
davidk on January 11, 2013 at 11:18 AM
More than you can carry.
Steve Eggleston on January 11, 2013 at 11:19 AM
Art?
davidk on January 11, 2013 at 11:19 AM
Here is another way to look at the debt ceiling:
Let’s say – you come home from work and find there has been a sewer backup in your neighborhood…….. and your home has sewage all the way up to your ceiling.
What do you think you should do…..
Raise the ceiling – or remove the crap?
jake-the-goose on January 11, 2013 at 11:20 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
thirtyandseven on January 11, 2013 at 11:31 AM
Is that kind of like Obamacare tax…..it looks like a tax and acts like a tax but really we will call it a penalty fee. So there, your taxes are not being raised.
tommer74 on January 11, 2013 at 11:42 AM
Thread winner.
Good Lt on January 11, 2013 at 11:45 AM
When you keep changing the “rules of the game” then of course printing money isn’t inflationary. The two main staples, food and energy, that the common man buys isn’t included in the calculation of inflation. You can talk about economic theory all you want but my pocketbook tells me you are foolish to the max.
chemman on January 11, 2013 at 11:45 AM
The trillion dollar platinum coin idea gives new meaning to “not worth a plug nickel.”
chemman on January 11, 2013 at 11:49 AM
The coin would have to have a trillion dollars worth of Platinum in it would it not? If it is just a symbolic value over the actual market value you could just compress horse sh!t into cheese molds, spray paint them silver and call them Appalachian Platinum Continentals. Krugman would back that.
BL@KBIRD on January 11, 2013 at 11:56 AM
I am not kidding: Is Krugman sane?
CW on January 11, 2013 at 12:19 PM
We don’t need platinum coins – using liberal logic, let’s just print more money. It’s just like the old “How can I be out of money? I still have more checks!” thing.
Ward Cleaver on January 11, 2013 at 12:40 PM
The Representatives of the people telling their government what the limit is to their borrowing is now an “accounting trick”.
Progressivism is truly a mental disorder.
CycloneCDB on January 11, 2013 at 1:06 PM
Nope, it specifies bullion as gold or silver.
abobo on January 11, 2013 at 4:41 PM