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“Why does anybody need a … 30-round clip for a gun?”
“I grew up in this hunting culture, but this is nuts,” said the Southern-born former president, as he spoke at the International Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. The speech was recorded by the Associated Press.
“Why does anybody need a … 30-round clip for a gun?” said Clinton, who in 1994 signed the assault weapons ban into law. It lapsed a decade later.
“Why does anybody need one of those things that carries 100 bullets? The guy in Colorado had one of those,” said Clinton, referring to the movie theater massacre in Aurora, Colo., last year. “Half of all mass killings in the U.S. occurred since the assault weapons ban expired in 2005.”
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As a defense of “suppose a student overtakes a teacher and steals her gun”. So I guess we then need to believe any student who finds a gun in their hand will immediately start shooting other defenseless students.
What a terrible world these leftists have constructed.
trs on January 10, 2013 at 4:31 PM
Actually, They Don’t!
But the ones that choose areas where concealed carry is available never have the time (20 minutes at Sandy Hook) to build up a body count that warrents National Coverage.
Like the Portland Mall shooter, 2 dead before armed citizen stopped him or San Antonio theater where armed citizen (off duty cop, but not a gun fee zone so she had it with her) shot him down before he even killed one.
jaydee_007 on January 10, 2013 at 4:33 PM
Of course the Gifford’s shooting was the one rare exception, but a Democrat Rally can be considered a Quazi Gun Free Zone for purposes of discussion.
jaydee_007 on January 10, 2013 at 4:34 PM
No, you didn’t, sir, or you wouldn’t be calling it a “clip”.
Socratease on January 10, 2013 at 4:34 PM
Good point. I guess the ones with very high body counts are the ones we hear about all the time, and those tend to be where there is no resistance.
sharrukin on January 10, 2013 at 4:35 PM
They’ve constructed that world in their minds, which isn’t a problem.
But then they think their imaginary world is the real one, and write laws as if it was, which is where the real problems start.
Socratease on January 10, 2013 at 4:36 PM
This is a fallacy on which a lot of gun control is based. They have no evidence of gun owners stopping crime because there is no police record when a crime isn’t committed, therefore they conclude that taking guns away has no downside.
Socratease on January 10, 2013 at 4:38 PM
Good catch.
UltimateBob on January 10, 2013 at 4:40 PM
Yep, Gun Free Zones are real effective!
jaydee_007 on January 10, 2013 at 4:41 PM
All we can do is compare the greater prevalence of home invasion in Britain with strict gun control, to the US where it is less common. It’s the dog that didn’t bark problem and leftists aren’t exactly Sherlock Holmes.
sharrukin on January 10, 2013 at 4:43 PM
And mose civilians won’t report a ‘Prevented’ crime because they don’t want their firearm impounded plus the 14 miles of Red Tape they will open themselves up to.
jaydee_007 on January 10, 2013 at 4:43 PM
Ddid someone on here suggest that all teachers had to be armed? And, without any training, whatsoever? Because that’s the only way nathor’s comments even come close to making any sense.
GWB on January 10, 2013 at 4:45 PM
FIFY. Remember the double-tap! (You want ‘em staying down!)
GWB on January 10, 2013 at 4:47 PM
“Because I WANT one.”
That’s all the reason needed.
The government has no authority to interfere, any more than it has any authority to stop me from buying http://ky-wildcat.com putting WordPress on it, and posting 80′s song videos in between political
rants.
For the same reason: The Constitution FORBIDS it that power.
wildcat72 on January 10, 2013 at 4:49 PM
Ok, I’d be willing to pick up the tab for self defense training for any teacher who wants to carry. If a teacher has a classroom with a student as violent as you suggest, I wouldn’t dream of forcing him to be defenseless. Too bad liberals can’t say the same.
JohnTant on January 10, 2013 at 4:51 PM
Let me introduce you to my little friend, the logical fallacy…….
Hint: there’s absolutely no causality that you can show there.
GWB on January 10, 2013 at 4:51 PM
Impossible to defend leftist policy without them.
besser tot als rot on January 10, 2013 at 4:54 PM
He killed 3 people. See, when you say “mass shooting” (with all the hysteria attendant thereto) it tends to make people think more in the double digits. Now, I’m not saying this doesn’t count against this guy as a multiple homicide, but “mass shooting” is probably a little hyperbolic.
GWB on January 10, 2013 at 4:56 PM
You know, it’s a funny thing.
There was this Economics/Law Professor who taught at Yale and the University of Chicago who set out to prove exactly that using statistics from 3054 counties from 1977 to 1994.
Unfortuatly he ended up proving the EXACT OPPOSITE. The results of his studies were published in a book titled More Guns, Less Crime.
jaydee_007 on January 10, 2013 at 4:56 PM
This whole clip/magazine thing is such a joke. So the dude carries to 15 count magazines and he still gets what he wants done by the time the po po show.
CW on January 10, 2013 at 4:58 PM
No. Just classic leftist strawman tactic. They cannot function without the strawman. Which makes you wonder: since they’ve always got their strawman with them, do Democrats get to ride in the carpool/HOV lane whenever they want?
besser tot als rot on January 10, 2013 at 4:59 PM
i will put it this way, the more guns there are, with the same controls as now, then, its quite probable more mass shootings will happen…
nathor on January 10, 2013 at 5:00 PM
What’s also interesting is that he didn’t bury the report, or massage the data for his leftist peers. An honest man is to be respected, particularly when it goes against his own preferred notions.
sharrukin on January 10, 2013 at 5:02 PM
if there is not enough time between shootings for the public opinion to forget the issue, you will see opinion change very fast…
nathor on January 10, 2013 at 5:02 PM
Ever been in a gun store/range? Did you survive?
Sheesh you’re just about as dimwitted as they get.
CW on January 10, 2013 at 5:03 PM
Based on what? The two decade long decline in violent crime and gun crime rates says otherwise. You are trying to pass off your uniformed opinion as some sort of logical argument. Which it is not.
besser tot als rot on January 10, 2013 at 5:03 PM
Gun-Grabber’s Q: Why do mass shootings always happen in schools, malls and movie theaters?
Honour the 2nd Amendment A: For the same reason that they never happen at shooting ranges.
Resist We Much on January 10, 2013 at 5:03 PM
We have more guns now than ever and gun crimes are down. No go ahead and play the logical fallacy and hang your hat on mass shootings but in fact THOSE too aren’t any more common idiot.
CW on January 10, 2013 at 5:04 PM
ROFL!
You really didn’t change anything there…….
I hope you didn’t misunderstand that “correction”, CW.
GWB on January 10, 2013 at 5:06 PM
Nathor lives in his own little world and you combine that with his pomposity…well….you get nathor.
CW on January 10, 2013 at 5:06 PM
Public opinion can change based on emotion and fallacy. Just because the “public” thinks something doesn’t mean that the opinion is rational or based on sound argument.
besser tot als rot on January 10, 2013 at 5:07 PM
It reminds me of the story of the engineer during WWII that was asked to figure out a way to make the fighter planes better.
They had all sorts of planes that had survived dog fights and limped home for him to examine.
When he was done looking at the planes, he came out and surprised everyone by recommending that they add armor in all of the places that hadn’t been shot.
He then explained that these planes were shot in places that left them still able to fly home so those weren’t the critical areas to protect.
If you only look at the what occurs in mass killings with high body counts and you ignore the attempted mass killings where someone put a stop to it before the body counts got high, you end up biasing your results and do yourself no good in trying to come up with a solution.
JadeNYU on January 10, 2013 at 5:08 PM
and if there is enough time….you won’t .
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Simplistic f.uck.
CW on January 10, 2013 at 5:10 PM
Nice story. Good luck explaining that rationale to people that have never been taught to think critically or rationally in our government schools.
besser tot als rot on January 10, 2013 at 5:12 PM
I know, let’s all go over to HuffPo and ask the Taboo Question of the Century there…
Watch how they react to that.
And do so keeping in mind that abortion is a derived right by twisting the fourth and fifth amendments while keeping and bearing arms is an explicit right guaranteed directly by the second.
jaydee_007 on January 10, 2013 at 5:12 PM
There are more guns per capita in this country than existed previously; yet, mass shootings are not increasing and mass murder peaked in 1929.
From the Associated Press:
In 2012, the number of deaths from mass shootings was reportedly 68, which is actually less than Fox’s figure for 2010. It is the total number of casualties — dead and injured combined — that appears to be higher than usual.
After Newtown, Fox wrote a column wherein he stated:
Duwe has addressed the media coverage too:
Resist We Much on January 10, 2013 at 5:13 PM
Nathor you’re a joke.
Say tell me how long does it take to reload a ruger?
CW on January 10, 2013 at 5:47 PM
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BINGO !!! Otherwise known as maintaining technological superiority.
ExpressoBold on January 10, 2013 at 6:07 PM
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