Sorry, folks, the $1 trillion coin is unconstitutional
The law gives the Secretary complete discretion over everything having to do with the minting of platinum coins. This is very likely an unconstitutional delegation of the legislative power to coin money and regulate the value thereof.
Of course, the Court could sidestep this issue by simply declaring that the law doesn’t really do what it seems. As Kevin Drum argues, the law could be interpreted as creating only the power to create commemorative coins issued for collectors and platinum investors. I don’t think this is a very good way of reading a straight-forward statute but it wouldn’t be the first time that federal courts interpreted laws in creative ways to avoid finding them unconstitutional.
One question about this, however, is who might have standing to sue the government over the issuance of a $1 trillion platinum coin. The federal courts hold that a plaintiff must be able to show that he has suffered or will imminently suffer injury in order to have standing to sue. For these purposes, it’s not good enough to be, say, a serious advocate of the non-delegation doctrine. Your injury cannot be purely ideological.
I suppose that workers at the U.S. Mint may have standing to sue in order to avoid being forced to commit an unconstitutional act.











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Unconstitutional? What was your first clue?
Fenris on January 8, 2013 at 1:27 PM
Yeah, well, that’s never stopped him before.
Pork-Chop on January 8, 2013 at 1:31 PM
People still think we live in a constitutional republic under rule of law?
How quaint.
Rebar on January 8, 2013 at 1:31 PM
Yeah, well, so is Obamacare.
Yet here we are…
catmman on January 8, 2013 at 1:33 PM
/end thread
Rocks on January 8, 2013 at 1:35 PM
Ah, rats. It seemed such a simple and elegant solution to the problem.
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Bob's Kid on January 8, 2013 at 1:36 PM
All Kids Left Behind…because Obama so ‘loves’ them.
Schadenfreude on January 8, 2013 at 1:36 PM
Since when do Obamacrats care about the Constitution?
Good Lt on January 8, 2013 at 1:39 PM
So are federal reserve notes.
Dante on January 8, 2013 at 1:40 PM
One has to ask, what has bho done since first elected, ever been constitutional? Those nasty Founders put bho under a constitution bho has no use for and is trying daily to get around!
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letget on January 8, 2013 at 1:43 PM
There is ANOTHER side of this not yet disected.
The dream is that once minted, the federal reserve can simply drop it onto their balance sheet. This is simply not possible. The fed does not buy commerative coins on a speculative nature as they would have no value to their bottom line.
Freddy on January 8, 2013 at 1:46 PM
Its a completely different world from when the constitution was enacted. What did the founding fathers understand about debt? They naively believed in things like the government paying off its debt. They had no concept of a trillion dollar debt or minting a trillion dollar coin to pay off the trillion debt. I say scrap the constitution and mint 30 trillion coins. Bam! Prosperity.
Shtetl G on January 8, 2013 at 1:50 PM
Who would have standing? Pretty much everyone who had the value of the dollars in their pocket evaporate overnight.
GWB on January 8, 2013 at 1:53 PM
Does anyone seriously think the President cares about the constitution? Really? And who is going to stop him from committing additional unconstitutional acts, SCOTUS or the DOJ? They’ve both laid down at his feet.
The more outrageous, the more unbelieveable, the more likely it is with this POTUS.
JustTruth101 on January 8, 2013 at 1:57 PM
Like Obamacare.
Gatsu on January 8, 2013 at 1:58 PM
That’s what I’d like to see. I own a couple platinum eagles and wouldn’t be too thrilled if they were declared non-legal tender by the courts. I think the “Drum solution” is probably the best way to handle it, assuming the bill introduced yesterday doesn’t go through.
I still can’t quite seriously believe we’re getting articles on this issue, though.
Doomberg on January 8, 2013 at 2:00 PM
i’m sorry, but this is a bad joke gone horribly awry. I don’t understand the reason this is talked about except pundits are bored between crises and have to write something.
This was even on the local news the other night…a long piece. Fortunately the sound was muted so I didn’t have to listen…but I did see a pix of a large coin with barry’s face on it. Bwahahahahaha
r keller on January 8, 2013 at 2:00 PM
But it sets up the greatest Ocean’s 11 sequel of all time.
Chuck Schick on January 8, 2013 at 2:02 PM
Who cares if its constitutional? Unless the GOP is going to add it as another charge at the impeachment hearing (fat chance) constitutionality doesn’t matter. It could be the most constitutional thing ever, its still the frackenist stupid idea ever and Barry may as well say (PLease oh please downgrade us”.
Zaggs on January 8, 2013 at 2:07 PM
Former Sec of State George Schultz famously said, “Trust is the coin of the realm”. Now we’re to the point where deceitfully minted coins are to be the coin of the realm. To sum up: We’re so screwed.
Paul-Cincy on January 8, 2013 at 2:08 PM
Ocean’s 16 Trillion
(Wait – or did they alread do that one…I can’t keep up anymore. I stopped watching after the original Ocean’s 11 – as it was a crime against humanity to remake such a wonderful Rat Pack movie and change the whole ending.)
CycloneCDB on January 8, 2013 at 2:09 PM
I think Barry should make the farce complete. Everyone keeps talking about it being made of platinum. If you’re striking a coin you can put any value to, make it out of a piece of Ikea furniture.
Zaggs on January 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM
It’s a pressure tactic for the GOP to surrender on the debt ceiling.
sharrukin on January 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM
Unconstitutional and STUPID…
Neither of which has ever stopped these bastards from doing what they want.
LegendHasIt on January 8, 2013 at 2:17 PM
First, are we still actually talking about things being unconstitutional? I mean, the entire idea of courts following the Constitution has been demonstrably laughable since at least Roe v. Wade, and probably much sooner. But if anyone still wasn’t convinced, the Obamacare ruling should have cemented the idea. Face it, the courts are going to let the government do pretty much whatever it wants.
Second, if a trillion dollar coin was minted, all money would immediately and catastrophically lose value. If someone’s entire life savings were wiped out in a single move by the Treasury, why wouldn’t they have standing to sue? That’s pretty straightforward monetary damage there.
Shump on January 8, 2013 at 2:20 PM
I don’t know why we are talking about minting $1T dollar coins when our liabilities are upwards of $130T, the government needs to spend $10T more than it now takes in every year, and those are before we even get to talking about government surpluses we should be building up in case of emergencies.
Shouldn’t we be making $10T dollar coins so we can finally get our fiscal house in order?
Dusty on January 8, 2013 at 2:20 PM
#mintthecoin!!!!
nathor on January 8, 2013 at 2:22 PM
We should just do what the Federation did. Abolish all monetary systems and have every one work to the betterment of themselves as humans and mankind in general. If we must have a coin, let it be NCC-17. as soon as we develop warp transport and phasers, we are the shizzle of the milky way duders.
Titanium ROCKS… yeahuh.
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44Magnum on January 8, 2013 at 2:24 PM
And we could make a special coin for the chinese, pay them off with one pretty little ObamaDollar, which is worth 2 trillion dollars!
Heck, let’s just figure out what the net worth of the entire world is, and let’s buy it! And give everyone free health care!
See how fun it is to be a liberal?
JustTruth101 on January 8, 2013 at 2:28 PM
I would think the destruction of the buying power of MY dollars would be ‘suffering injury’. ANYBODY would be able to sue over such outlandish stunts.
michaelo on January 8, 2013 at 2:30 PM
The problem is that if we take all the platinum ever mined and make a coin; at today’s platinum spot price, the actual value of such a coin would be a mere billion.
So in order for this scheme to work, the dollar will have to be massiveley devalued, or the price of platinum has to increase 1000x.
Guess which option is more likely? Buy your gold, people.
Norwegian on January 8, 2013 at 2:36 PM
I think you are a genius!
nathor on January 8, 2013 at 2:39 PM
They should mint like a million of these and give them to Obama to put in he stash.
CycloneCDB on January 8, 2013 at 2:44 PM
The Debt Ceiling, The 14th Amendment, “The D’Oh Coin!” & The Confederacy of Dunces
Resist We Much on January 8, 2013 at 2:59 PM
Its a stupid discussion to begin with. Nobody is going to mint a trillion dolar coin even if it was constitutional.
Ellis on January 8, 2013 at 3:24 PM
Hey, I have a question. Who started this idea and who are the principal ones who went on to push this idea, and by that I don’t mean people like Kevin Drum.
Platinum is not considered bullion, but I suspect if it was pushed to be included as bullion, the price for platinum might be rise considerably. As it rises, people who are already invested in platinum will profit from this trend. See where I’m going?
Dusty on January 8, 2013 at 3:52 PM
And silver and (non $1T) platinum while you’re at it.
Doomberg on January 8, 2013 at 3:59 PM
You need to go back farther. Try Marbury v. Madison.
Dante on January 8, 2013 at 4:54 PM
After the 2012 elections and (idiotically-named) Fiscal Cliff “win” wherein Obama forced a minority of Republicans in the House of Representatives to raise taxes on 77.1% of Americans, doing something this utterly braindead, boneheaded, and Banana Republicanistic will make Speaker John Boehner cry…WITH JOY.
Krugman and Nadler must want to get a Republican elected in 2016!
Resist We Much on January 8, 2013 at 6:57 PM
How cute, to try to apply reasoning to such a proposal!
No, it would be worth a trillion because they declare it to be worth a trillion. That’s what makes them so brilliant!
Do you see now how liberals are so much smarter than the rest of us?
tom on January 8, 2013 at 8:35 PM