Republicans deserved to lose
It is not just Republican presidential candidates who cannot be bothered to articulate a coherent argument, instead of ad hoc talking points. Have you yet heard House Speaker John Boehner take the time to spell out why Barack Obama’s argument for taxing “millionaires and billionaires” is wrong?
It is not a complicated argument. Moreover, it is an argument that has been articulated many times in plain English by conservative talk-show hosts and by others in print. It has nothing to do with being worried about the fate of millionaires or billionaires, who can undoubtedly take care of themselves.
What we all should be worried about are high tax rates driving American investments overseas, when there are millions of Americans who could use the jobs that those investments would create at home.
Yet Obama has been allowed to get away with the emotional argument that the rich can easily afford to pay more, as if that is the issue. But it will be the issue if no one says otherwise.
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That might be better for those of us who not only champion but live conservative ideals but what are the odds of that happening for real, I mean REALLY happening.
Secession, while maybe necessary at this point or in the near future just seems unlikely IMO.
Yakko77 on January 1, 2013 at 2:54 PM
They could have done that but didn’t because the GOP is also the tax and spend party. The reason the GOP didn’t propose spending cuts is the same reason they never do, because they don’t actually want to cut spending, they just use deceit to trick voters who do want to cut spending into voting for them. When people like Boehner, Romney and even Paul Ryan talk about “spending cuts” they really only mean a slight decrease in the amount that spending automatically increases each year. They’re just adjusting a meaningless line on a projection chart. It’s a shell game. Even after “cutting spending” (reducing the rate of increase), they just follow it up with other bills that increase spending to even higher than before. One Congress can’t bind future Congress’, so all of these numbers they throw around about cutting a trillion dollars over 10 years are just lies. None of the spending cuts are ever in the first year, the only one that matters, they are always in the last 9, and future Congresses certainly don’t want to cut spending either, that’s how they pay off their cronies and special interests for all the campaign donations and cushy lobbying jobs after they leave office.
The GOP (the elites) are the party of despicable cheats and liars. People like Ron Paul threaten to end their con-game and so they’ve systematically smeared him for years, and all too many people on our side who should have supported him if they really want to save America, instead stood by while he and his supporters were systematically cheated by the GOP establishment.
FloatingRock on January 1, 2013 at 2:56 PM
While I agreed with a lot of his domestic and fiscal policies the man was essentially a die hard isolationist (no matter how much libertarians try to deny the term) to a dangerous level and there is no way this voter was going to vote for a Truther either. RP was a man with some good ideas wrapped in too much crazy. It is what it is.
He will never, EVAH win on a nation level. Period. The sooner libertarians accept that fact the sooner they can put out a viable candidate.
Yakko77 on January 1, 2013 at 3:00 PM
Isolationism is a social/economic term. Ron Paul supports free trade and cultural exchange, the opposite of isolationism. The word you are looking for is non-interventionist. While Ron Paul is more non-interventionist than I am, he is far more rational and down-to-earth than the neocons who run the GOP. Their foreign policy over the past dozen years has been a misguided wreck and is a huge factor why America is failing in the present. The neocon GOP establishment are the ones who’ve been smearing Ron Paul for all these years because he is one of the few people on the national stage who exposes the truth and threatens the corrupt status quo.
If conservatives want to change the status quo they have to stop voting for it.
FloatingRock on January 1, 2013 at 3:13 PM
Ron Paul isn’t a truther. That was just neocon propaganda they are forced to spread because Ron Paul is one of the few threats to their police/warfare/welfare state. He is one of the few public figures who is not afraid to speak the truth and expose their lies so they smear him so that people who should support him, don’t.
FloatingRock on January 1, 2013 at 3:17 PM
Some of Ron Paul’s supporters are truther’s and so the neocon establishment used the truther libel to smear Ron Paul as well, and too many conservatives have been conditioned over the years to fall for underhanded tactics like that.
FloatingRock on January 1, 2013 at 3:19 PM
“Isolationist” in the right-wing vocabulary is your code-word for “points out that we cannot afford to be the world’s cop/babysitter in perpetuity”. And his ‘truther’ links are about as valid as his ‘nazi’ links, which is to say they exist only in the fevered minds of wingnut slandermonkies.
Certainly not when he – unlike liberals – actually consistently opposes the war industry and its unpaid sockpuppets.
Remember back during the Bush years when conservatives brought up all manner of quotes from Democrats supporting the Iraq war and looking for WMD’s? They d@mn well supported the whole shebang, they just wanted to take advantage of the frothing loony anti-Bush sentiment.
As if you had any room to talk to about what a viable candidate looked like after the last two humiliating elections.
MelonCollie on January 1, 2013 at 3:24 PM
And furthermore:
Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on January 1, 2013 at 3:36 PM
I don’t recall actually being strong advocates of McCain or Romney. I liked both of the VP picks better to be quite honest.
Yakko77 on January 1, 2013 at 4:16 PM
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