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Tale of two cities: Homicides plummet in New York, leap in Chicago
That’s right: There were more homicides this year in Chicago than in New York, a city with three times the population. That means Chicagoans were proportionally 3.7 times more likely to be homicide victims than New Yorkers were in 2012…
Overall, crime is down in Chicago in just about every category — except the most devastating one.
“We’ve obviously seen, as a city, our shootings and our homicides going in a different direction,” Mayor Rahm Emanuel said this month at a graduation ceremony for police recruits, vowing, “We will not rest” until that trend is reversed.
Meanwhile, in New York, “we’re preventing crimes before someone is killed,” Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said Friday.
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So, > 16 oz. sodas is at the root of murder? Whodda thunk?
Blake on December 29, 2012 at 1:04 PM
Looks like Bloomy has it handled. Good for him!
a capella on December 29, 2012 at 1:08 PM
Thread winner right off the bat. Bravo, sir!
Mohonri on December 29, 2012 at 1:09 PM
And some New Yorkers are complaining about stop and frisk?
I suppose the city of big shoulders will simply moan and shrug them until some of those murders start occuring in the Loop, the Gold Coast, Lincoln Park, Boys Town, and Wrigleyville.
BuckeyeSam on December 29, 2012 at 1:11 PM
I weep for my hometown.
Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on December 29, 2012 at 1:12 PM
It must be the Chicago Gangsta’s.
Dasher on December 29, 2012 at 1:14 PM
I suppose the city of big shoulders will simply moan and shrug them until some of those murders start occuring in the Loop, the Gold Coast, Lincoln Park, Boys Town, and Wrigleyville.
BuckeyeSam on December 29, 2012 at 1:11 PM
Yep. And North Shore, home of the esteemed Emanuel family.
Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on December 29, 2012 at 1:16 PM
Pretty much. Recently there was a flurry of “random” group beatings in the touristy areas and the lakefront. Rahm dropped the hammer on that, quickly.
And Lefties wonder why South-side families are fleeing to the (gasp!) south suburbs.
visions on December 29, 2012 at 1:19 PM
So basically Bloomberg is using gun control as a cover for racial profiling.
Right? That what I got from the article….
William Eaton on December 29, 2012 at 1:22 PM
Chicago just had it’s 500th homicide this year. Last time that happened was waaaay back in 2008….the LSM are making it sound like 500 is a rarity.
tencole on December 29, 2012 at 1:24 PM
…except for Hyde Park/U of C people, who appear to be staying put.
Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on December 29, 2012 at 1:24 PM
Chicago’s South Side was the OK Corral when I was a kid there 30 years ago. Always has been. I honestly believe the Daley machine has told them to keep it in their own hood and they will be left alone. And their police chiefs have always been tools of the machine.
After all, there’s money and votes at stakes, so what’s a little murder among friends?
PattyJ on December 29, 2012 at 1:28 PM
Between abortion and homicide you would think the population of the south side would be approaching zero.
tom daschle concerned on December 29, 2012 at 1:31 PM
We had more suicides in NYC this year than homicides.
ernesto on December 29, 2012 at 1:34 PM
Please provide a link for the abortion rate on Chicago’s South Side.
Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on December 29, 2012 at 1:39 PM
Strange how stories like this on homicides neglect to mention the percentage that are gang-related (in 2009, it was reported that up to 80% of U.S. crimes were gang-related).
ShainS on December 29, 2012 at 1:45 PM
demographic map.
tom daschle concerned on December 29, 2012 at 1:48 PM
Chicago is such a segregated city that lots of parts of it are incredibly safe. All the violence occurs in no go areas on the South and West Sides. And when violence occurs on the North Side it gets dealt with really quickly.
Illinidiva on December 29, 2012 at 1:49 PM
[tom daschle concerned on December 29, 2012 at 1:31 PM]
It appears that the numbers are insufficient to counter all the market forces at work there.
Dusty on December 29, 2012 at 1:52 PM
New York has less than a third of the amount of gang members than Chicago has. Start there Rahm.
lynncgb on December 29, 2012 at 1:57 PM
Look at ultra leftist California, leftards.
Schadenfreude on December 29, 2012 at 2:00 PM
Yeah, and NYC has more people getting pushed in front of trains by crazies than Chi-town. So, you’ve got that going for you, too.
Fallon on December 29, 2012 at 2:03 PM
Couldn’t find anything specific to the South Side.
Here are two links to sources broken down by county:
(1) From 2006-2009, Cook county (obviously) was ranked #1 with an abortion percentage of 23.5%;
(2) In 2011, Coook county (obviously) was ranked #1 with the number of abortions reported = 24,008.
ShainS on December 29, 2012 at 2:07 PM
Interesting. A “demographic map” showing where Latinos/blacks/whites live in Chicago shows nothing. And those Illinois “abortion facts” have no geographic or racial breakdown at all! Still, thanks for the witch-y effort, Sam.
Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on December 29, 2012 at 2:14 PM
Thank you for your honesty.
Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on December 29, 2012 at 2:18 PM
Ladysmith I’m guessing that you must have grown up on the South Side. Must tick you off to no end that the Rahmfather could care less about the poorer areas of the city.
Illinidiva on December 29, 2012 at 2:28 PM
I guess making a logical assumption based off the fact that blacks account for 72.33% of all abortions, and the demographic mapping data was a poor choice on my part.
I’ll never again try to make correlations.
Thank you for making me see the errors of my ways without having to resort to hauling me into room 101.
tom daschle concerned on December 29, 2012 at 2:31 PM
Chicago’s chickens are coming home to roost.
Kenosha Kid on December 29, 2012 at 2:42 PM
Is other crime REALLY down? After civilization devolves past a certain point, people just stop reporting things they know police won’t respond to.
But the dead bodies keep piling up.
logis on December 29, 2012 at 2:52 PM
No, I didn’t grow up on the South Side (or in Chicago at all). Yes, it does indeed anger me that Mr. Emanuel is worse than the Daleys (Pere et Fils).
Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on December 29, 2012 at 2:57 PM
Saw a classmate at my high school reunion for the first time in decades this year-he’s from Chicago. Back in the day he would regale us with stories about the infamous Blackstone Rangers. He’d been asked many times to become a member but never did.
He said they now have at least 25,000 members.
Del Dolemonte on December 29, 2012 at 2:57 PM
I remember the Blackstone Rangers from the 60s! I think it was the 70s when they became the Black P. Stone Nation, then the El Rukins under Jeff Fort during the 80s drug wars. Not sure what they are now–B.P.S. I think.
Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on December 29, 2012 at 3:04 PM
Almighty Black P. Stone Nation.
Del Dolemonte on December 29, 2012 at 3:26 PM
Bingo. It’s not so much that the murder rate is up in Chicago, it’s that New York has (for various reasons) had a remarkably low amount of gang violence in recent years. Could be there aren’t as many turf wars (an alliance between gangs, maybe?), or there are fewer gang members, or whatever, but I can guarantee having more cops does not directly stop murder. Passionate, spur of the moment murders happen regardless, murder for money / territory will happen regardless, and random killings are pretty rare everywhere.
Timin203 on December 29, 2012 at 3:39 PM
Thanks!
Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on December 29, 2012 at 3:42 PM