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	<title>Comments on: Republican vote counters not sure Boehner&#8217;s Plan B can pass the House</title>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/12/19/republican-vote-counters-not-sure-boehners-plan-b-can-pass-the-house/comment-page-1/#comment-2223549</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to this post by &lt;a href=&quot;http://http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2012/12/19/republicans-put-obama-in-a-box/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jennifer Rubin even Grover Norquist&lt;/a&gt; is supporting this. If Republicans do not vote for this, they are voting for higher taxes for everyone. That is the truth of it. 

This is from the linked post:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck was more terse in his reaction: “The White House’s opposition to a backup plan to ensure taxes don’t rise on American families is growing more bizarre and irrational by the day.  Republicans have always said a broader, ‘balanced’ plan is the ideal solution, and we have put one forward. In the absence of a ‘balanced’ solution from the President, however, we must act to stop taxes from rising across the board in 12 days. If Democrats disapprove of this bill, then there is a simple solution: amend it in the Senate and send it back to the House.”

Grover Norquist, whom the left-wing media likes to demonize as obstructionist, showed he too can play a tough game of chess. In a statement, he said of course saving all but the top sliver of taxpayers from a tax hike is consistent with the no-tax pledge his group has sponsored. (“Republicans supporting this bill are this week affirming to their constituents in writing that this bill — the sole purpose of which is to prevent tax increases — is consistent with the pledge they made to them. In ATR’s analysis, it is extremely difficult — if not impossible — to fault these Republicans’ assertion. In particular, in this Congress the House has already voted twice to prevent any tax increases on any American.”) Make no mistake, the White House is getting squeezed

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to this post by <a href="http://http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2012/12/19/republicans-put-obama-in-a-box/" rel="nofollow">Jennifer Rubin even Grover Norquist</a> is supporting this. If Republicans do not vote for this, they are voting for higher taxes for everyone. That is the truth of it. </p>
<p>This is from the linked post:</p>
<blockquote><p>Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck was more terse in his reaction: “The White House’s opposition to a backup plan to ensure taxes don’t rise on American families is growing more bizarre and irrational by the day.  Republicans have always said a broader, ‘balanced’ plan is the ideal solution, and we have put one forward. In the absence of a ‘balanced’ solution from the President, however, we must act to stop taxes from rising across the board in 12 days. If Democrats disapprove of this bill, then there is a simple solution: amend it in the Senate and send it back to the House.”</p>
<p>Grover Norquist, whom the left-wing media likes to demonize as obstructionist, showed he too can play a tough game of chess. In a statement, he said of course saving all but the top sliver of taxpayers from a tax hike is consistent with the no-tax pledge his group has sponsored. (“Republicans supporting this bill are this week affirming to their constituents in writing that this bill — the sole purpose of which is to prevent tax increases — is consistent with the pledge they made to them. In ATR’s analysis, it is extremely difficult — if not impossible — to fault these Republicans’ assertion. In particular, in this Congress the House has already voted twice to prevent any tax increases on any American.”) Make no mistake, the White House is getting squeezed</p>
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		<title>By: besser tot als rot</title>
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		<dc:creator>besser tot als rot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I favor huge tax increases over small tax increases in this case. I favor the Republicans doing absolutely nothing. Stand back and let it burn. Give the voters what they asked for. I am opposed to any fiscal cliff deal what-so-ever. I am opposed to walking back sequestration. Raise the taxes. Slash defense. Do it all. Let. It. Burn.

Shump on December 19, 2012 at 3:31 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The only way to let it burn is to make the House stand back as they pass Obama&#039;s proposal. Going over the cliff is a piss poor let it burn strategy because as soon as we go over the cliff, the Democrats will move to cut taxes for those under 200/250 and the GOP will have (a) comply, or (b) be the party of the rich and high taxes for 98% of the bottom earners. If they don&#039;t go along, they&#039;ll get the blame for any resulting calamity (not the Democrats, as is implicit in the LiB strategy). And if they did go along, the meme would be that the Democrats are the party of tax cuts and the GOP only went along because they were forced to. Wonderful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I favor huge tax increases over small tax increases in this case. I favor the Republicans doing absolutely nothing. Stand back and let it burn. Give the voters what they asked for. I am opposed to any fiscal cliff deal what-so-ever. I am opposed to walking back sequestration. Raise the taxes. Slash defense. Do it all. Let. It. Burn.</p>
<p>Shump on December 19, 2012 at 3:31 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>The only way to let it burn is to make the House stand back as they pass Obama&#8217;s proposal. Going over the cliff is a piss poor let it burn strategy because as soon as we go over the cliff, the Democrats will move to cut taxes for those under 200/250 and the GOP will have (a) comply, or (b) be the party of the rich and high taxes for 98% of the bottom earners. If they don&#8217;t go along, they&#8217;ll get the blame for any resulting calamity (not the Democrats, as is implicit in the LiB strategy). And if they did go along, the meme would be that the Democrats are the party of tax cuts and the GOP only went along because they were forced to. Wonderful.</p>
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		<title>By: ThePrimordialOrderedPair</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThePrimordialOrderedPair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;We lost the election. This is what happens when you lose elections because Romney wasn’t the perfect candidate for conservatives. You don’t get reform when you lose elections, especially in red stats like Indiana and Missouri.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This isn&#039;t &quot;reform&quot;, but thanks for moving the left&#039;s talking points along.  The Sequester was already agreed on by the Crybaby, the Indonesian, and Reed BEFORE the election.  In fact, Boner thought it was a great concession to extract in order to allow Barky and the dems to run up over a trillion more of debt to be totally wasted and end up on our bill.  Did you like Boner back when he &quot;negotiated&quot; that genius deal?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Plan B undercuts Obama’s Millionaires and Billionaires talking point. Here’s your tax on the millionaires you campaigned on. Veto it. It shows he’s full of BS.

cpaulus on December 19, 2012 at 3:23 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

LOL.  When has Barky ever been held to anything?  He and the dems forced through the most hated piece of legislation in American history.  Do you think they&#039;re scared of this stuff?

And, as I already told you, Barky has already started with his, &quot;the GOP has conceded that taxes have to go up on the rich&quot; (i.e., for the slow of thinking, &#039;the GOP is complicit in class warfare&#039;) - which Boner and the GOP don&#039;t bother addressing, as usual - though they don&#039;t have much of an argument this time.   And you are under some delusion that the GOP will somehow emerge as the protectors of ... something in all this??  Really?  Have you been in a coma for the last four years?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We lost the election. This is what happens when you lose elections because Romney wasn’t the perfect candidate for conservatives. You don’t get reform when you lose elections, especially in red stats like Indiana and Missouri.</p></blockquote>
<p>This isn&#8217;t &#8220;reform&#8221;, but thanks for moving the left&#8217;s talking points along.  The Sequester was already agreed on by the Crybaby, the Indonesian, and Reed BEFORE the election.  In fact, Boner thought it was a great concession to extract in order to allow Barky and the dems to run up over a trillion more of debt to be totally wasted and end up on our bill.  Did you like Boner back when he &#8220;negotiated&#8221; that genius deal?</p>
<blockquote><p>Plan B undercuts Obama’s Millionaires and Billionaires talking point. Here’s your tax on the millionaires you campaigned on. Veto it. It shows he’s full of BS.</p>
<p>cpaulus on December 19, 2012 at 3:23 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>LOL.  When has Barky ever been held to anything?  He and the dems forced through the most hated piece of legislation in American history.  Do you think they&#8217;re scared of this stuff?</p>
<p>And, as I already told you, Barky has already started with his, &#8220;the GOP has conceded that taxes have to go up on the rich&#8221; (i.e., for the slow of thinking, &#8216;the GOP is complicit in class warfare&#8217;) &#8211; which Boner and the GOP don&#8217;t bother addressing, as usual &#8211; though they don&#8217;t have much of an argument this time.   And you are under some delusion that the GOP will somehow emerge as the protectors of &#8230; something in all this??  Really?  Have you been in a coma for the last four years?</p>
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		<title>By: Shump</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/12/19/republican-vote-counters-not-sure-boehners-plan-b-can-pass-the-house/comment-page-1/#comment-2223413</link>
		<dc:creator>Shump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, the choice isn’t no tax increases or tax increases. It’s Huge tax increases versus small tax increases. Don’t sit on your hands on Election Day.

cpaulus on December 19, 2012 at 2:43 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I favor huge tax increases over small tax increases in this case. I favor the Republicans doing absolutely nothing. Stand back and let it burn. Give the voters what they asked for. I am opposed to any fiscal cliff deal what-so-ever. I am opposed to walking back sequestration. Raise the taxes. Slash defense. Do it all. Let. It. Burn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Well, the choice isn’t no tax increases or tax increases. It’s Huge tax increases versus small tax increases. Don’t sit on your hands on Election Day.</p>
<p>cpaulus on December 19, 2012 at 2:43 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I favor huge tax increases over small tax increases in this case. I favor the Republicans doing absolutely nothing. Stand back and let it burn. Give the voters what they asked for. I am opposed to any fiscal cliff deal what-so-ever. I am opposed to walking back sequestration. Raise the taxes. Slash defense. Do it all. Let. It. Burn.</p>
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		<title>By: besser tot als rot</title>
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		<dc:creator>besser tot als rot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; This is what happens when you lose elections because Romney wasn’t the perfect candidate for conservatives. You don’t get reform when you lose elections,

cpaulus on December 19, 2012 at 3:23 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t have gotten reform with a Romney win either. And Romney was an awful candidate all around. Otherwise, he wouldn&#039;t have lost to one of the worst Presidents ever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> This is what happens when you lose elections because Romney wasn’t the perfect candidate for conservatives. You don’t get reform when you lose elections,</p>
<p>cpaulus on December 19, 2012 at 3:23 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t have gotten reform with a Romney win either. And Romney was an awful candidate all around. Otherwise, he wouldn&#8217;t have lost to one of the worst Presidents ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Resolute</title>
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		<dc:creator>Resolute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is plan C:
pass a balanced budget for 2013, send it to the Senate, and resign the house.  Do not raise the debt, do not pass any continuing resolutions, do not pass go, do not collect $200]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is plan C:<br />
pass a balanced budget for 2013, send it to the Senate, and resign the house.  Do not raise the debt, do not pass any continuing resolutions, do not pass go, do not collect $200</p>
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		<title>By: cpaulus</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/12/19/republican-vote-counters-not-sure-boehners-plan-b-can-pass-the-house/comment-page-1/#comment-2223400</link>
		<dc:creator>cpaulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;No, the choice is between a progressive tax system and a bizarrely progressive tax system. Changing peoples attitude towards spending is more important than letting as many people as possible off the tax hook.

Valkyriepundit on December 19, 2012 at 3:00 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ok, so what, he passes tax reform. It dies in the Senate. Obama uses bully pulpit and says get serious. Nothing happens Democrats say that Republicans raised taxes on everyone by not acting, which would technically be true. 

We lost the election. This is what happens when you lose elections because Romney wasn&#039;t the perfect candidate for conservatives. You don&#039;t get reform when you lose elections, especially in red stats like Indiana and Missouri. 

Plan B undercuts Obama&#039;s Millionaires and Billionaires talking point. Here&#039;s your tax on the millionaires you campaigned on. Veto it. It shows he&#039;s full of BS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No, the choice is between a progressive tax system and a bizarrely progressive tax system. Changing peoples attitude towards spending is more important than letting as many people as possible off the tax hook.</p>
<p>Valkyriepundit on December 19, 2012 at 3:00 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Ok, so what, he passes tax reform. It dies in the Senate. Obama uses bully pulpit and says get serious. Nothing happens Democrats say that Republicans raised taxes on everyone by not acting, which would technically be true. </p>
<p>We lost the election. This is what happens when you lose elections because Romney wasn&#8217;t the perfect candidate for conservatives. You don&#8217;t get reform when you lose elections, especially in red stats like Indiana and Missouri. </p>
<p>Plan B undercuts Obama&#8217;s Millionaires and Billionaires talking point. Here&#8217;s your tax on the millionaires you campaigned on. Veto it. It shows he&#8217;s full of BS.</p>
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		<title>By: besser tot als rot</title>
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		<dc:creator>besser tot als rot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been critical of Boehner, but I think this is a good move on his part. Including how he conducted the presser. I&#039;d even think it was a good move if the cap was lower. Because if he doesn&#039;t do it, the Dems will initiate it and force him to do it anyway (after the cliff). And then the Dems will get to be the party of tax cuts while any GOP resistance plays into the party of the rich meme.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been critical of Boehner, but I think this is a good move on his part. Including how he conducted the presser. I&#8217;d even think it was a good move if the cap was lower. Because if he doesn&#8217;t do it, the Dems will initiate it and force him to do it anyway (after the cliff). And then the Dems will get to be the party of tax cuts while any GOP resistance plays into the party of the rich meme.</p>
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		<title>By: Zaggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zaggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;House Republicans should go on record as voting to raise income taxes on any earners.&quot;

Because then it forces the democrats to vote against something that would save the middle class from a tax hike.  Even if they voted for it, Republicans are the adults in the room who actually put something together to save the middle class.  Tada.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;House Republicans should go on record as voting to raise income taxes on any earners.&#8221;</p>
<p>Because then it forces the democrats to vote against something that would save the middle class from a tax hike.  Even if they voted for it, Republicans are the adults in the room who actually put something together to save the middle class.  Tada.</p>
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		<title>By: commodore</title>
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		<dc:creator>commodore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Jim Jordan wants the higher rates to stay the same, he can propose that as a decoupled bill. But it&#039;s moronic to not make permanent the lower rates. 

Force Obama to endorse almost all GWB tax rates as permanent law of the land.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Jim Jordan wants the higher rates to stay the same, he can propose that as a decoupled bill. But it&#8217;s moronic to not make permanent the lower rates. </p>
<p>Force Obama to endorse almost all GWB tax rates as permanent law of the land.</p>
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