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After Newtown, four ways the NRA could change
1. Institutions can change. The NRA has become an implacable foe of gun control but that doesn’t mean it will always be. There could be glasnost in the NRA Kremlin, a recognition that the world has changed. It’s not a perfect analogy by any means but auto companies opposed seat belts and then accepted them as standard equipment. They fought air bags and then accepted them.
2. Hunters might triumph over the automatic crowd. At some point, it’s possible that hunters will feel less threatened by the spectre of gun control laws and be willing to assert themselves more. Of course, hunters are no more monolithic than “drivers” or “students” but they may not see themselves as having a vested interest in enormous magazines.
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No, you posted a single article citing evidence that many guns stolen from their legal owners came from a single store (those people bought them there, not the bad guys), and that many other gang guns were stolen from freight cars in a Chicago railway yard.
How that equates with you defeating rogerb in debate is discernible only to yourself, but go ahead and enjoy your delusions of grandeur!
Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2012 at 4:43 PM
Knife Murders make up nearly 15% of all murders in the US.
And the many gang members killed in prison by knives are not available to respond to your second claim.
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Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2012 at 4:46 PM
George Orwell was right. And you are the living proof of that.
Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2012 at 4:48 PM
dude, you’re coming unhinged here. i don’t get this .go or .edu nonsense. are you doubting the veracity of that story? are their numbers off, or is this phenomenon completely non-existent, in which case, but only in this case, i’m wrong. otherwise, you need to acknowledge that criminals do get many of their guns from legal arms dealers. and if you acknowledge that, you also need to address the clear implication that tightening the laws would help reduce criminals’ access to guns. you follow?
more extensive background checks, waiting periods and more accountability by gun dealers would one solution. this would hardly affect you as a non-criminal gun owner, since the worst to happen is that you need to wait a bit for your new baby. correct me if i’m wrong, but you are against these measures. you should reconsider that.
as a matter of fact, i did provide an .edu link above, which i suggest you spend a wee time studying. prepared by tone of the top academic institutions of the nation, and indeed the world, it tells you about topics such as “Across high-income nations, more guns = more homicide,” or “Across states, more guns = more homicide.” interesting stuff.
sesquipedalian on December 18, 2012 at 4:48 PM
Schadenfreude on December 18, 2012 at 4:56 PM
oh please, that’s a cheap one even by your standards. nowhere did the article focus on guns stolen from their rightful owners. instead, it’s about a long known but ignored phenomenon of having straw men buy guns for criminals. it’s been well documented that gun stores turn a blind eye to this stuff. go ahead and give this story a read. nothing has changed since then.
just for the record, it was the resident idiot darwin, not rodge, who mocked the idea that this phenomenon even exists and failed to concede the obvious
sesquipedalian on December 18, 2012 at 4:58 PM
hahaha, you still can’t wrap your head around it, huh?
sesquipedalian on December 18, 2012 at 5:00 PM
Schadenfreude on December 18, 2012 at 5:01 PM
meaningless statistic. if lanza had a knife, etc.
also, wrong capitalization but who am i to complain.
sesquipedalian on December 18, 2012 at 5:02 PM
No, but you’re still an undisciplined hypocritical Liar.
Schadenfreude on December 18, 2012 at 5:03 PM
you’re doing it wrong.
sesquipedalian on December 18, 2012 at 5:09 PM
No, sesqui – today the truly stupid are out from the plantation
Leftists love tyranny, always.
Schadenfreude on December 18, 2012 at 5:16 PM
This note was addressed to Ed Morrissey. That plea would includ you, sesqui.
Schadenfreude on December 18, 2012 at 5:17 PM
include
Schadenfreude on December 18, 2012 at 5:17 PM
you’re crazy, but not like a fox.
sesquipedalian on December 18, 2012 at 5:21 PM
Foxes are indignant.
You’re not Einstein.
Schadenfreude on December 18, 2012 at 5:34 PM
Not to the victims.
You’re having a bad thread. Keep digging.
Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2012 at 5:52 PM
Except for the part that I cut and pasted directly from the article?
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Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2012 at 5:54 PM
sesquipedalian, dang, I would have thought after the way this thread had gone for you, you’d let it go. But no, I check back and you’re still digging. Where the heII are you trying to get to? Do they have a second amendment that better suits you?
Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 6:03 PM
sesquipedalian, you are being paged to attend the lastest thread Allah just put up. Here.
Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 6:11 PM
Which wasn’t at all what it was posted to support.
It was provided directly to support a claim, and which has nothing to do with said claim, re:criminals/law-abiding-dealers.
You understand that, right?
You did read your link, right? If you’d “spend a wee time studying” the link you’d realize it didn’t support your “not interested in actual figures” claim whatsoever.
Regardless, I (again) think you just like the attention. I don’t think you’re serious about debate.
rogerb on December 18, 2012 at 6:16 PM
Dead thread?
Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 6:30 PM
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