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		<title>By: ConservativeLA</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/12/17/we-already-had-a-national-debate-about-guns-and-the-left-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-2220460</link>
		<dc:creator>ConservativeLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Conor Friedersdorf, Voice Of Moderation.&quot; Very amusing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Conor Friedersdorf, Voice Of Moderation.&#8221; Very amusing.</p>
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		<title>By: Socratease</title>
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		<dc:creator>Socratease</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; “The NRA needs to state the case why assault weapons are needed by anyone,” he claimed. And after that, he told one poster that “a Glock pistol qualifies as an assault weapon.” That last bit is surely a surprise to both gun owners and Congress which didn’t include handguns in its previous assault weapons ban.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The NRA has never ceased to state their case, Ed just never pulled his fingers out of his ears.

As for pistols being assault weapons, California&#039;s assault weapon ban includes many pistols.  It used to include some pistols commonly used by target shooters until it almost caused the LA Olympics pistol shooting events to be cancelled.  It currently includes bolt-action rifles.  &quot;Assault Weapon&quot; is a political term of art and has no accurate meaning outside of politics.  Inside of politics, it&#039;s only meaning is: &quot;guns politicians can get away with banning&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> “The NRA needs to state the case why assault weapons are needed by anyone,” he claimed. And after that, he told one poster that “a Glock pistol qualifies as an assault weapon.” That last bit is surely a surprise to both gun owners and Congress which didn’t include handguns in its previous assault weapons ban.</p></blockquote>
<p>The NRA has never ceased to state their case, Ed just never pulled his fingers out of his ears.</p>
<p>As for pistols being assault weapons, California&#8217;s assault weapon ban includes many pistols.  It used to include some pistols commonly used by target shooters until it almost caused the LA Olympics pistol shooting events to be cancelled.  It currently includes bolt-action rifles.  &#8220;Assault Weapon&#8221; is a political term of art and has no accurate meaning outside of politics.  Inside of politics, it&#8217;s only meaning is: &#8220;guns politicians can get away with banning&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Odysseus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Odysseus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We also had a national debate about health care in 1993. With the left, nothing is ever &quot;settled&quot; law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We also had a national debate about health care in 1993. With the left, nothing is ever &#8220;settled&#8221; law.</p>
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		<title>By: cam2</title>
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		<dc:creator>cam2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Abortion is the not the most important issue for me (I am a fiscal guy), but it’s worth noting that gun control, an issue which has been declared “closed” repeatedly, has been reopened again and again to no penalty on the left...
 
In contrast, abortion has been declared “closed” repeatedly, with vicious slapdowns by our own (supposed) side on anti-abortion advocates and activists.
Doomberg on December 17, 2012 at 1:06 PM &lt;/blockquote&gt;Abortion is a &quot;closed&quot; issue? Are you kidding? 32 states have adopted new abortion restrictions in the past 2 years alone. 
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57500585/since-2010-32-states-have-restricted-abortions/

If the next president is a Republican and he/she has the opportunity to replace one or more liberal justices on the Supreme Court, do you doubt that a challenge to existing abortion law will be a top priority?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Abortion is the not the most important issue for me (I am a fiscal guy), but it’s worth noting that gun control, an issue which has been declared “closed” repeatedly, has been reopened again and again to no penalty on the left&#8230;</p>
<p>In contrast, abortion has been declared “closed” repeatedly, with vicious slapdowns by our own (supposed) side on anti-abortion advocates and activists.<br />
Doomberg on December 17, 2012 at 1:06 PM </p></blockquote>
<p>Abortion is a &#8220;closed&#8221; issue? Are you kidding? 32 states have adopted new abortion restrictions in the past 2 years alone.<br />
<a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57500585/since-2010-32-states-have-restricted-abortions/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57500585/since-2010-32-states-have-restricted-abortions/</a></p>
<p>If the next president is a Republican and he/she has the opportunity to replace one or more liberal justices on the Supreme Court, do you doubt that a challenge to existing abortion law will be a top priority?</p>
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		<title>By: Dusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Screw a national debate about guns. Been there, done that. The left lost.

It’s the Second Amendment, stupid. Get used to it.

[petefrt on December 17, 2012 at 12:20 PM]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, there are still onerous laws reflecting failed policies that need to be repealed and public perceptions that need to be changed.  We need to have this debate.  Eliminating gun-free zones at schools, at least with respect to those who are charged with ensuring the  protection of our children for 8 hours a day, 181 days a year, is a must.

Not all of the old ways of doing things have been thrown on the trash heap of history.  Meaningful action is imperative and this is the right time to get rid of this failed policy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Screw a national debate about guns. Been there, done that. The left lost.</p>
<p>It’s the Second Amendment, stupid. Get used to it.</p>
<p>[petefrt on December 17, 2012 at 12:20 PM]</p></blockquote>
<p>No, there are still onerous laws reflecting failed policies that need to be repealed and public perceptions that need to be changed.  We need to have this debate.  Eliminating gun-free zones at schools, at least with respect to those who are charged with ensuring the  protection of our children for 8 hours a day, 181 days a year, is a must.</p>
<p>Not all of the old ways of doing things have been thrown on the trash heap of history.  Meaningful action is imperative and this is the right time to get rid of this failed policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Galt2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Galt2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The NRA needs to state the case why assault weapons are needed by anyone,

This is the United States of America. I don’t have to need it in order to have it.

CurtZHP on December 17, 2012 at 1:05 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They want to change that perception – the left wants to destroy liberty.

The liberty to defend yourself, the liberty to eat or drink what you want, the liberty to drive whatever you want.

&lt;strong&gt;Democrats – the Anti-liberty party.&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The NRA needs to state the case why assault weapons are needed by anyone,</p>
<p>This is the United States of America. I don’t have to need it in order to have it.</p>
<p>CurtZHP on December 17, 2012 at 1:05 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>They want to change that perception – the left wants to destroy liberty.</p>
<p>The liberty to defend yourself, the liberty to eat or drink what you want, the liberty to drive whatever you want.</p>
<p><strong>Democrats – the Anti-liberty party.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Knott Buyinit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knott Buyinit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not true, if the left had truly lost this debate an elementary school would be the last place a crazed killer would go to find defenseless victims.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not true, if the left had truly lost this debate an elementary school would be the last place a crazed killer would go to find defenseless victims.</p>
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		<title>By: yongoro</title>
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		<dc:creator>yongoro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The left &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;NEVER&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; loses a debate because they never agree that it&#039;s settled until it&#039;s settled in their favor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The left <em><strong>NEVER</strong></em> loses a debate because they never agree that it&#8217;s settled until it&#8217;s settled in their favor.</p>
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		<title>By: Doomberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doomberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;They want to have it again, and again, until it comes out in their favor.

Abortion, case closed

Global warming, the science is in

Second amendment, we must revisit that

cozmo on December 17, 2012 at 12:16 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Abortion is the not the most important issue for me (I am a fiscal guy), but it&#039;s worth noting that gun control, an issue which has been declared &quot;closed&quot; repeatedly, has been reopened again and again to no penalty on the left, as they are continuing to support anti-gun activism and plots like Fast and Furious.

In contrast, abortion has been declared &quot;closed&quot; repeatedly, with vicious slapdowns by our own (supposed) side on anti-abortion advocates and activists.

Anti-abortion activists need to take what&#039;s happening with gun control right now as a lesson.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They want to have it again, and again, until it comes out in their favor.</p>
<p>Abortion, case closed</p>
<p>Global warming, the science is in</p>
<p>Second amendment, we must revisit that</p>
<p>cozmo on December 17, 2012 at 12:16 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Abortion is the not the most important issue for me (I am a fiscal guy), but it&#8217;s worth noting that gun control, an issue which has been declared &#8220;closed&#8221; repeatedly, has been reopened again and again to no penalty on the left, as they are continuing to support anti-gun activism and plots like Fast and Furious.</p>
<p>In contrast, abortion has been declared &#8220;closed&#8221; repeatedly, with vicious slapdowns by our own (supposed) side on anti-abortion advocates and activists.</p>
<p>Anti-abortion activists need to take what&#8217;s happening with gun control right now as a lesson.</p>
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		<title>By: CurtZHP</title>
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		<dc:creator>CurtZHP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The NRA needs to state the case why assault weapons are needed by anyone,&lt;/blockquote&gt;



This is the United States of America.  I don&#039;t have to need it in order to have it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The NRA needs to state the case why assault weapons are needed by anyone,</p></blockquote>
<p>This is the United States of America.  I don&#8217;t have to need it in order to have it.</p>
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