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	<title>Comments on: “We have extraordinarily real and deep problems. We’re at a serious point, not a trivial point.”</title>
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		<title>By: rogerb</title>
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		<dc:creator>rogerb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;We live in interesting times.
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If Obama wins, it will prove to the powers that be that Romney wasn’t liberal enough to win and we’ll get even more liberal (R)s as future presidential candidates.
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If Romney wins, it will reinforce the idea that (R) candidates should be more liberal to win, and we’ll get even more liberal (R)s as future presidential candidates.
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They’ve got us. Vote your conscience, but those are the results. Take your pick.
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/07/29/romney-on-his-olympics-comments-i-tend-to-tell-people-what-i-actually-believe/comment-page-2/#comment-2036900&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rogerb on July 29, 2012 at 6:56 PM &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We live in interesting times.<br />
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If Obama wins, it will prove to the powers that be that Romney wasn’t liberal enough to win and we’ll get even more liberal (R)s as future presidential candidates.<br />
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If Romney wins, it will reinforce the idea that (R) candidates should be more liberal to win, and we’ll get even more liberal (R)s as future presidential candidates.<br />
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They’ve got us. Vote your conscience, but those are the results. Take your pick.<br />
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<a href="http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/07/29/romney-on-his-olympics-comments-i-tend-to-tell-people-what-i-actually-believe/comment-page-2/#comment-2036900" rel="nofollow">rogerb on July 29, 2012 at 6:56 PM </a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: RINOs are people too</title>
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		<dc:creator>RINOs are people too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;um then join the party and vote in the primary.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There&#039;s something wrong with a system that mandates joining a party (or joining anything for that matter) to participate in selecting a candidate.  Why should a person have to join the party if, for example, they thought that Jeb Bush would be good candidate.  Not every independent is going to think Hillary will make a great president, but they&#039;re not going register as republicans just to choose her challenger.

They want to remain independents, but are disenfranchised from the primary process.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>um then join the party and vote in the primary.
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<p>There&#8217;s something wrong with a system that mandates joining a party (or joining anything for that matter) to participate in selecting a candidate.  Why should a person have to join the party if, for example, they thought that Jeb Bush would be good candidate.  Not every independent is going to think Hillary will make a great president, but they&#8217;re not going register as republicans just to choose her challenger.</p>
<p>They want to remain independents, but are disenfranchised from the primary process.</p>
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		<title>By: Fatwa Arbuckle</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/12/16/we-have-extraordinarily-real-and-deep-problems-were-at-a-serious-point-not-a-trivial-point/comment-page-1/#comment-2219032</link>
		<dc:creator>Fatwa Arbuckle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;You make no sense.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For refusing to support parties which pay no heed to the Constitution or the principles upon which this nation was founded?

&lt;blockquote&gt; If you don’t want to even take the time to fill out the card to become a member of the party why the hell should politicians from that party give a crap what you think.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Because if they nominate candidates who represent my interests, I&#039;ll &lt;strong&gt;vote for them.&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You make no sense.</p></blockquote>
<p>For refusing to support parties which pay no heed to the Constitution or the principles upon which this nation was founded?</p>
<blockquote><p> If you don’t want to even take the time to fill out the card to become a member of the party why the hell should politicians from that party give a crap what you think.</p></blockquote>
<p>Because if they nominate candidates who represent my interests, I&#8217;ll <strong>vote for them.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: unseen</title>
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		<dc:creator>unseen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Why would I want to join a party which, based on results, is clearly disinterested in small government, individual liberty and leaving me the hell alone to live my life so long as I am not damaging the person or property of others or being a burden on the public purse?

Fatwa Arbuckle on December 16, 2012 at 11:59 AM &lt;/blockquote&gt;

You make  no sense.   If  you  don&#039;t want to  even take the time to fill out the card  to  become  a member of the party  why the hell should politicians  from that party  give a crap  what  you  think.  they  do  care  about the primary voters within their  party.   Once nominated  they  might  care about your  views  but  more  likley  they will care  about  what the majority  feel  so they  get elected.   If  your  interests happen to align  with the majority  then  don&#039;t  worry  about joining the party.  if  however you  want to change the party  so it nominates more  small government  individual  liberaty candidates  then the primary is the best place to do  so  and limiting  who  votes within  that primary  to party  members  who care   enough to join a politcal party   will help  u  more then opening up the primary  to all people.  Some  who  support the  other party  and  when they have an  incumbant   can  vote for the most liberal  in your  party  instead of  changing  parties they  simply  cast a vote for the liberal  guy  running as a REP.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why would I want to join a party which, based on results, is clearly disinterested in small government, individual liberty and leaving me the hell alone to live my life so long as I am not damaging the person or property of others or being a burden on the public purse?</p>
<p>Fatwa Arbuckle on December 16, 2012 at 11:59 AM </p></blockquote>
<p>You make  no sense.   If  you  don&#8217;t want to  even take the time to fill out the card  to  become  a member of the party  why the hell should politicians  from that party  give a crap  what  you  think.  they  do  care  about the primary voters within their  party.   Once nominated  they  might  care about your  views  but  more  likley  they will care  about  what the majority  feel  so they  get elected.   If  your  interests happen to align  with the majority  then  don&#8217;t  worry  about joining the party.  if  however you  want to change the party  so it nominates more  small government  individual  liberaty candidates  then the primary is the best place to do  so  and limiting  who  votes within  that primary  to party  members  who care   enough to join a politcal party   will help  u  more then opening up the primary  to all people.  Some  who  support the  other party  and  when they have an  incumbant   can  vote for the most liberal  in your  party  instead of  changing  parties they  simply  cast a vote for the liberal  guy  running as a REP.</p>
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		<title>By: Fatwa Arbuckle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fatwa Arbuckle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;um then join the party and vote in the primary.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why would I want to join a party which, based on results, is &lt;em&gt;clearly&lt;/em&gt; disinterested in small government, individual liberty and leaving me the hell alone to live my life so long as I am not damaging the person or property of others or being a burden on the public purse?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>um then join the party and vote in the primary.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why would I want to join a party which, based on results, is <em>clearly</em> disinterested in small government, individual liberty and leaving me the hell alone to live my life so long as I am not damaging the person or property of others or being a burden on the public purse?</p>
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		<title>By: unseen</title>
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		<dc:creator>unseen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;He betrayed the people who gave him that seat and they punished him by withholding their votes and their money.

NeoKong on December 16, 2012 at 11:53 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

very  true]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He betrayed the people who gave him that seat and they punished him by withholding their votes and their money.</p>
<p>NeoKong on December 16, 2012 at 11:53 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>very  true</p>
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		<title>By: NeoKong</title>
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		<dc:creator>NeoKong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All you have to do is look at Scott Brown.
When he ran against a well known Democrat,Martha Coakley he was the vote that would stop Obamacare.
Remember...?
It was the people&#039;s seat and not the Kennedy&#039;s.
He crushed her.

Then when he ran again as Mr. Reach Across the Aisle who votes 50% with the Democrats he got slaughtered against a woman who &lt;strike&gt;was&lt;/strike&gt; is a known fraud and a liar.

He betrayed the people who gave him that seat and they punished him by withholding their votes and their money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you have to do is look at Scott Brown.<br />
When he ran against a well known Democrat,Martha Coakley he was the vote that would stop Obamacare.<br />
Remember&#8230;?<br />
It was the people&#8217;s seat and not the Kennedy&#8217;s.<br />
He crushed her.</p>
<p>Then when he ran again as Mr. Reach Across the Aisle who votes 50% with the Democrats he got slaughtered against a woman who <strike>was</strike> is a known fraud and a liar.</p>
<p>He betrayed the people who gave him that seat and they punished him by withholding their votes and their money.</p>
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		<title>By: unseen</title>
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		<dc:creator>unseen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Um, because I’d like the candidate who best represents my interests to have a shot at winning the general election.

Fatwa Arbuckle on December 16, 2012 at 11:49 AM &lt;/blockquote&gt;

um  then  join the party and vote in the primary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Um, because I’d like the candidate who best represents my interests to have a shot at winning the general election.</p>
<p>Fatwa Arbuckle on December 16, 2012 at 11:49 AM </p></blockquote>
<p>um  then  join the party and vote in the primary.</p>
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		<title>By: unseen</title>
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		<dc:creator>unseen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;If the message of freedom and individual responsibility doesn’t garner votes, then it’s not a problem with freedom or individual responsibility. It’s a problem with our culture that no longer values those things.

ButterflyDragon on December 16, 2012 at 11:27 AM &lt;/blockquote&gt;


freedom and individual  responsibility  wasn&#039;t on the ballot in 2012.  Liberalism and who betters manage it were.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If the message of freedom and individual responsibility doesn’t garner votes, then it’s not a problem with freedom or individual responsibility. It’s a problem with our culture that no longer values those things.</p>
<p>ButterflyDragon on December 16, 2012 at 11:27 AM </p></blockquote>
<p>freedom and individual  responsibility  wasn&#8217;t on the ballot in 2012.  Liberalism and who betters manage it were.</p>
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		<title>By: Fatwa Arbuckle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fatwa Arbuckle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; If you don’t want to join the party why would you be allowed to pick the nominee?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Um, because I&#039;d like the candidate who best represents my interests to have a shot at winning the general election.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> If you don’t want to join the party why would you be allowed to pick the nominee?</p></blockquote>
<p>Um, because I&#8217;d like the candidate who best represents my interests to have a shot at winning the general election.</p>
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