Gun-control advocates to Obama: Now is the time
“For the first time in decades, Republicans are losing on social issues — they’re losing on same-sex marriage, they’re losing on contraception, and now they could lose on guns because their position is so intractable,” said Kessler. “Except for a vocal minority, people know and expect that something can be done.”
“It’s not that Democrats could do it and make some political gains,” added Mike Lux, founder of the consulting firm Progressive Strategies, and a former aide to President Bill Clinton. “It’s that they have to do it. It’s not only the base, it’s now the American people. They better damn well do it, or people will say what on earth is going on.”…
Republicans, under this theory, are caught in a trap between the powerful National Rifle Association’s uncompromising demands, crucial to primarily politics, and the more moderate view of the general electorate.
“Republicans aren’t going to go against the NRA,” said Lux. “They will absolutely block it, and it’s going to look very bad for them, but their politics are such that they are far more worried about a primary from the right than they are at looking unreasonable to the general public.”
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Mimzey on December 16, 2012 at 10:13 AM
That’s actually a great idea, provide incentives for gun owners to stow them safely, why not. I’m not a fan of laws detailing how guns must be kept but I personally think it’s stupid to keep them a certain way when there are inquisitive kids around.
Bishop on December 16, 2012 at 10:15 AM
The premise is false.
The polls that may show a slight lean to SSM are just that..polls.
I can think of no one who is making a position out of banning contraceptives.
Gun sales are at an all time high.
Mimzey on December 16, 2012 at 10:16 AM
For the record, I’m only 35, and to quote Winston Zedmore from Ghostbusters, “I have see sh*t that will turn you white.” We are hit with so much nonsensical and outrageous b.s. so often it wears you down and desensitizes you. Really, as an example, if even one of scandals that plagued Obama [Benghazi] had happened to a President 25 years ago, it would have broken his administration. But Barry (and the voters) yawn, sigh and proclaim “no big deal”. How do you react to that?
Saltyron on December 16, 2012 at 10:16 AM
I could easily be wrong (I thought there no way such a failed president could be reelected), but I think these advisors are way over confident. There are a lot of Americans who don’t put gun rights in the same category as other “social issues”. To me it’s a constitutional issue and it’s non-negotiable. However, I don’t really give a flip about the issues related to reproductive organs.
I have never in my life based my vote on genitalia- related “social issues”.
I have always based my vote on 2A.
juliesa on December 16, 2012 at 10:17 AM
Touche. But in my defense, Honey Boo Boo did endorse Obama this year,
Saltyron on December 16, 2012 at 10:18 AM
Yep, the left is not seriously interested in fixing anything, just in exploiting every tragedy to push their agenda.
petefrt on December 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM
We have a movement.
hawkdriver on December 16, 2012 at 10:24 AM
Did the maniac in Connecticut use a “military assault rifle?” Do we have the most violent nation on earth? Guns have been plentiful since our founding, why are we more violent now?
So much ignorance spewing from Democrat leaders like Jackson these days.
visions on December 16, 2012 at 10:27 AM
Too late, lostfatherland is already complaining that a child may accidentally lock themselves in a safe and suffocate, so no deal. Better just to ban guns.
Bishop on December 16, 2012 at 10:29 AM
It is not easier to buy a gun in America than a cup of coffee. But if you drink coffee where liberal snobs like Jackson do, the gun is actually cheaper.
hawkdriver on December 16, 2012 at 10:30 AM
While something like this would need to be carefully considered, it might be some kind of a workable bipartisan approach. Certainly Leftists would be OK with “encouragement” for safes for guns, right?
visions on December 16, 2012 at 10:31 AM
I agree, the muzzle-loading Civil War era Springfield rifled musket I own has no place in society.
Hey! It was a state of the art “assault weapon” in 1864.
Bishop on December 16, 2012 at 10:32 AM
Foiled again. I guess I’ll start stocking up … again.
hawkdriver on December 16, 2012 at 10:33 AM
Jackson should have said how Chicago has tried to make the entire city a gun free zone and just like the school in CT the policies of doing aay with guns are only disarming the population and making them easy prey for the crazies,crimnals and thugs of society.
unseen on December 16, 2012 at 10:33 AM
I’ve gone after my younger brother for years to get his out of the pretty glass and wooden cabinate and into a safe like my family has.
hawkdriver on December 16, 2012 at 10:36 AM
why?
unseen on December 16, 2012 at 10:39 AM
Just for the record here, so the libs know how this is going to work.
I did not receive my right to self defense from the government. It is my belief and that of the founders that this right is one of several endowed by my creator. The 2nd Amendment does not give me the right to bear arms; it only puts into law that the government is prohibited from infringing on a specific right that preexists government.
Thus it is of no concern to me what liberals think about this right, other than if what they think is turned into action on their part in an effort to abridge my rights. If that occurs you can expect a very real, and very messy, fight. If you don’t wish to become so engaged, tread carefully in that territory.
MikeA on December 16, 2012 at 10:43 AM
Just one more law, just one more dollar spent, just one more something and no one will die at the hands of drug use ever again.
tjexcite on December 16, 2012 at 10:43 AM
More safe with children in his home. Although his youngest is now a teen and it doesn’t much matter now.
Safer for the weapons too.
hawkdriver on December 16, 2012 at 10:44 AM
With a thin pane of glass and a cheap lock? Maybe if I didn’t have kids, then again I don’t like to advertise such things anyway.
Bishop on December 16, 2012 at 10:44 AM
Democrats to use the blood for political ends….they’d never do that.
CW on December 16, 2012 at 10:46 AM
What I keep mine in.
That may or not be strong enough to keep out thieves who will clean out my entire supply of weapons, ammo and reloading equipment if the socialists in power enact gun-grabbing legislation.
hawkdriver on December 16, 2012 at 10:47 AM
This, as in ‘endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights’.
petefrt on December 16, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Exactly. We both have 30-30 Savage bolt action rifles (a little rare) that our father gave each one of us. He likes to showcase his.
hawkdriver on December 16, 2012 at 10:53 AM
I don’t know. As far as children. You teach them to use them and when to stay away from them. Putting the guns and ammo away from each other is a better way to prevent deaths or just locking up the ammo no need for a big “safe”. Crimnals don’t let bank vaults stop them they won’t let a gun safe stop them either if they want your guns. they might be good for those smash and grab types of thefts but for someone with the intent to get a gun the safe is a mirage of protection. Personally I think having guns means you have a duty to train children in the home how to use them and how to handle them. And since I have a gun for protection of my home locking them up so it takes time to get to it when I need it kind of defeats the purpose. trigger locks work just as well as a gun safe. Just because a gun is displayed doesn’t mean its user friendly.
unseen on December 16, 2012 at 10:58 AM
If not for yourselves, do it for the Children.
Galt2009 on December 16, 2012 at 11:06 AM
what i keep mine in; a room.
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/8499975-post2053.html
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2784/basement50vc5.jpg
Lifeisdeath on December 16, 2012 at 11:13 AM
Go for it dems. This is the one single issue that has always galvanized the opposition, and gotten you thrown from power. So I got one question for you…Feeling Lucky?
Red Creek on December 16, 2012 at 11:15 AM
Nice job TPC. The sad thing is, the same anti-everything control-everyone progressives would also ban your car and you swimming pool, if they could. For the planet.
Kenosha Kid on December 16, 2012 at 11:18 AM
1.) Nice job, moderates. Remember, talk about nothing! That’s a surefire winner!
2.) How many of the teachers or administrators had guns? I’m guessing none. Perhaps if one of them was armed they could have kept the death toll a lot lower.
Stoic Patriot on December 16, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Southern by choice22 on December 16, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Maybe it is time we started having a serious discussion about mental illness and the risks it presents society when we try to redefine it, minimize its impact and normalize its victims. I’m old enough to remember when dangerously unstable people were treated as unstable; many times institutionalized in state hospitals and private asylums. Today those same people are mainstreamed into society and expected to cope with their disabilities as if they were physical and not mental. Families with mentally ill children are encouraged to treat them as normal but different, often ignoring that mental illness that is “different” as age 8 can become part of a dangerous patter at age 20.
For God’s sake folks, just read the things friends and family are now saying about the Sandy Hook shooter. Someone; family, school, doctor, counselor, neighbor, etc., should have had the moxie to step in and have this young man’s behavior better evaluated for potential danger. But in our modern society everyone is afraid to do that for fear of either being branded as a bigot or for fear of a lawsuit, or both. So instead we all stay silent when we see one of these “different” individuals and we say nothing for fear of being seen as the bad guy for picking on the poor “different” person.
You want to know who is responsible for the dead kids at Sandy Hook? You are; I am, we all are for allowing society to become so paralyzed by this fuzzy headed way of dealing with mental illness that we can’t do anything to prevent such disasters. All this hindsight looking at guns and such is not going to help.
MikeA on December 16, 2012 at 11:39 AM
Totally against any kind of storage legislation – more statist nanny state crap.
I keep most of mine secured because some of them are valuable and some are of sentimental value.
But there is no magic pill when it comes to gun security and I’m not signing up for a ride on the slippery slope of “oh if it saves one life…”. Statists of all flavors can take that cigar and shove it.
CorporatePiggy on December 16, 2012 at 11:55 AM
MikeA on December 16, 2012 at 11:39 AM
With all of the fuzzy info making the rounds, does anyone know if it’s true that his mom’s arguments with the school district were concerning getting care for him ??
Have heard it floating around, with no corroborations, so curious.
pambi on December 16, 2012 at 12:01 PM
I don’t know if anyone yet knows anything about details like that. The media ghouls have put out so much crazy stuff that it may take years to sort out the facts. But then we already know that the media don’t give a rip about facts; just sound bites and being the first one to get them.
MikeA on December 16, 2012 at 12:07 PM
As Socialist Leaders are so fond of saying: “Never let a good massacre go to waste.”
logis on December 16, 2012 at 12:16 PM
The first you have to sign in for. The picture, nice.
hawkdriver on December 16, 2012 at 12:32 PM
This is such a socially forbidden truth it’s not even funny.
I can post passages from the book I read by Christian parents who found out the heart-breaking way what happens when your cute little ‘tard hits the teenage years.
But just TRY to ask someone “who takes care of Johnny Short-bus when you’re unable to because of age or finances or the fact that he’s a menace?” I PROMISE you will not get a straight answer; you’ll be lucky not to be screamed at.
MelonCollie on December 16, 2012 at 12:34 PM
To each his own unseen. As long as they don’t get in the wrong hands. My entire stock is in a very heavy safe except for my pistol in the nightstand.
hawkdriver on December 16, 2012 at 12:34 PM
So, go for the gold goal.
Not much good just “guns”, ban Kung Fu, Karate, base ball bats, cars, rope, knives, “big rocks”, flint stone arrow points, pushing people off cliffs, swamp gas to explode the home of a 1%’r,
just make sure the commie Democrats keep of the tax money to waste and resistribute to the end of time.
fools goals
APACHEWHOKNOWS on December 16, 2012 at 12:41 PM
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