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it came handy that the mom was a gun nut.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:28 PM

So, someone who wants to kill will not be deterred by the strictest gun laws in the nation even if it means killing your own mother to obtain guns?

OK. We need more guns laws. At least one that prohibits killing one’s mother to obtain guns.

davidk on December 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM

it came handy that the mom was a gun nut.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:28 PM

What are you saying here, guy? What are you saying about the deceased?

thebrokenrattle on December 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM

What are you saying about the deceased?

thebrokenrattle on December 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM

i’m saying that she had an arsenal that was available to a madman.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Now they are saying that there were four handguns in the school.

Cindy Munford on December 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM

it came handy that the mom was a gun nut.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:28 PM

GFY, ghoul.

JeffWeimer on December 15, 2012 at 1:32 PM

That’s strange. It’s almost as if those who wont flinch at killing children also don’t care to violate gun laws and obtain them illegally anyway.

Weight of Glory on December 15, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Also reports are floating around that the second “person of interest” also pulled some triggers and that a total of four handguns were recovered.

davidk on December 15, 2012 at 1:33 PM

it came handy that the mom was a gun nut.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Way to spit on the grave of a murdered woman you ghoul.

Weight of Glory on December 15, 2012 at 1:33 PM

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Legitimate question. Nothing wrong with being a gun nut but irresponsible doesn’t usually go along with it.

Cindy Munford on December 15, 2012 at 1:33 PM

i’m saying that she had an arsenal that was available to a madman.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Oh I got it. It’s the dead mother’s fault. Nice. Go away.

Weight of Glory on December 15, 2012 at 1:34 PM

i’m saying that she had an arsenal that was available to a madman.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM

And what should have been done?

thebrokenrattle on December 15, 2012 at 1:34 PM

And what should have been done?

thebrokenrattle on December 15, 2012 at 1:34 PM

if someone in your household is “not okay”, keep your guns safely locked. or not have guns at all, better yet. she was living in the fifth safest city in the nation.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:37 PM

it came handy that the mom was a gun nut.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:28 PM

YOU are an idiot. This man wanted to kill someone, and there is many more ways to kill someone. On a thread yesterday, someone posted a link to a Chinese guy who took out 22 people in a school in China using a knife. The systemic problem isn’t guns; it is violence and mental illness…

melle1228 on December 15, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Oh I got it. It’s the dead mother’s fault. Nice. Go away.

Weight of Glory on December 15, 2012 at 1:34 PM

it’s a statement of fact.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:38 PM

i’m saying that she had an arsenal that was available to a madman.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM

So you agree that our guns laws are fine, the system worked, and the actual problem is the mental health industry? Cool.

Good Solid B-Plus on December 15, 2012 at 1:38 PM

The mother has been described as a gun collector although I probably wouldn’t use that term if all she had were the guns already described. She also apparently took her children shooting. Hardly sounds like a “nut.”

IMO she was murdered because she wouldn’t cooperate.

davidk on December 15, 2012 at 1:38 PM

if someone in your household is “not okay”, keep your guns safely locked. or not have guns at all, better yet. she was living in the fifth safest city in the nation.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:37 PM

How about institutionalizing the person who is ‘not okay’ instead of restricting your own freedom?

Had this madman chosen to run down a pack of kids with his mom’s car, should she have biked to her job because someone in her house was ‘not okay’?

Had he used a knife, should the mother have used all plastic silverware in her house?

Good Solid B-Plus on December 15, 2012 at 1:39 PM

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Did you stop to think that maybe that’s why she’s dead?

Cindy Munford on December 15, 2012 at 1:40 PM

if someone in your household is “not okay”, keep your guns safely locked. or not have guns at all, better yet. she was living in the fifth safest city in the nation.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Wow a liberal advocating personal responsibility..LOL

Please oh wise one- tell us how legislation could have changed this tragedy then/

melle1228 on December 15, 2012 at 1:41 PM

if someone in your household is “not okay”, keep your guns safely locked. or not have guns at all, better yet. she was living in the fifth safest city in the nation.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:37 PM

I gave you the benefit of doubt for your first statement. Now you’re just being an idiot.

A dead person is responsible for someone else’s action committed after that person has died? You are the mental case.

davidk on December 15, 2012 at 1:42 PM

it’s a statement of fact.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Not yet it isn’t. At this point I don’t think the media is even in stopped clock/blind squirrel territory when it comes to “facts”.

Cindy Munford on December 15, 2012 at 1:42 PM

Please oh wise one- tell us how legislation could have changed this tragedy then/

melle1228 on December 15, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Simple:

OK. We need more guns laws. At least one that prohibits killing one’s mother to obtain guns.

davidk on December 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM

davidk on December 15, 2012 at 1:43 PM

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:28 PM

And if he used mom’s car to run over a bunch of school kids at a bus stop should we piss on her grave under that circumstance as well?

NotCoach on December 15, 2012 at 1:43 PM

How about institutionalizing the person who is ‘not okay’ instead of restricting your own freedom?

Had this madman chosen to run down a pack of kids with his mom’s car, should she have biked to her job because someone in her house was ‘not okay’?

Had he used a knife, should the mother have used all plastic silverware in her house?

Good Solid B-Plus on December 15, 2012 at 1:39 PM

your freedom to own more than the minimum firepower you need for self-defense is not worth these lives, sorry.

for some reason i don;t hear of madmen running down children with cars, mostly because it’s a much less glorified way to do it – less appealing to maniacs.

if he had used a knife, all of the victims would likely be alive.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:44 PM

if someone in your household is “not okay”, keep your guns safely locked. or not have guns at all, better yet. she was living in the fifth safest city in the nation.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Keep the nutjob “safely locked” away somewhere

Stu Gotts on December 15, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Not yet it isn’t. At this point I don’t think the media is even in stopped clock/blind squirrel territory when it comes to “facts”.

Cindy Munford on December 15, 2012 at 1:42 PM

we are reasonably sure at this point that she owned at least three of the four guns.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:45 PM

And if he used mom’s car to run over a bunch of school kids at a bus stop should we piss on her grave under that circumstance as well?

NotCoach on December 15, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Easy peasy.. THe dang women shouldn’t have owned a car//

melle1228 on December 15, 2012 at 1:45 PM

if he had used a knife, all of the victims would likely be alive.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Nicole Simpson could not be reached for comment.

Stu Gotts on December 15, 2012 at 1:45 PM

your freedom to own more than the minimum firepower you need for self-defense is not worth these lives, sorry.

for some reason i don;t hear of madmen running down children with cars, mostly because it’s a much less glorified way to do it – less appealing to maniacs.

if he had used a knife, all of the victims would likely be alive.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Keep talking, Mr. Ghoul. Keep talking.

thebrokenrattle on December 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM

i’m saying that she had an arsenal that was available to a madman.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Do we have any evidence that the guy showed even the slightest inkling that he would possibly do something like this? Your comment implies irresponsibility in that his mother “knew” he was “a madman” who would go off if he had access. Did she keep them locked but somehow managed to gain access without her knowledge? We don’t know that, either. Too many conclusions jumped to in that one little sentence to suit me.

crosspatch on December 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Did you know that the worse school massacre in the U.S. happened in 1927 and did not involve guns at all? And how can you say all of the victims would have been alive if he used a knife?

Cindy Munford on December 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Keep the nutjob “safely locked” away somewhere

Stu Gotts on December 15, 2012 at 1:44 PM

so that the mom can carry on her gun hobby?

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM

for some reason i don;t hear of madmen running down children with cars, mostly because it’s a much less glorified way to do it – less appealing to maniacs.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Mary Jo Kopechne, please pick up the white courtesy phone.

Stu Gotts on December 15, 2012 at 1:47 PM

so that the mom can carry on her gun hobby?

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Why not? She didn’t hurt anybody.

Stu Gotts on December 15, 2012 at 1:47 PM

it’s a statement of fact.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:38 PM

It’s a selective statement of a non-fact. What she had cannot in anyway be described as an “arsenal”. What we know right now is two pistols and one rifle; and the rifle was not used. You used the term “arsenal” to attach an emotionally loaded word with all sorts of connotation that skews actual facts. But keep blaming other people and things rather than the evil nutcase himself. Hey, he was also a product of the Public School System…that’s a statement of fact. What are our schools doing to produce such killers? We need a national dialogue.

Weight of Glory on December 15, 2012 at 1:47 PM

your freedom to own more than the minimum firepower you need for self-defense is not worth these lives

Yeah that is the difference between me and you.. freedom doesn’t come with a caveat. Freedom is worth any price.

And freedom didn’t kill those kids, a mentally ill idiot did.

melle1228 on December 15, 2012 at 1:47 PM

your freedom to own more than the minimum firepower you need for self-defense is not worth these lives, sorry.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:44 PM

I guess you’re a gun and defense expert?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CoIhl3puuI

davidk on December 15, 2012 at 1:47 PM

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:45 PM

I’m glad you think you know anything. As far as I can see, people are just saying sh!t to fill on air time.

Cindy Munford on December 15, 2012 at 1:48 PM

As many as 14 people were injured this afternoon by a motorist who drove around San Francisco deliberately running them down before being arrested by police, who believe the same driver struck and killed a man earlier today in Fremont.

At least one hit-and-run victim remained in critical condition this evening.

Reports of the incidents began pouring in at 12:47 p.m., police said.

Within a half-hour, San Francisco police had cornered and arrested 29-year-old Omeed Aziz Popal, who has addresses in Ceres (Stanislaus County) and Fremont

melle1228 on December 15, 2012 at 1:49 PM

your freedom to own more than the minimum firepower you need for self-defense is not worth these lives, sorry.

for some reason i don;t hear of madmen running down children with cars, mostly because it’s a much less glorified way to do it – less appealing to maniacs.

if he had used a knife, all of the victims would likely be alive.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:44 PM

A. Not your decision to make, just like you don’t get to decide the ‘minimum’ amount of free speech I need. Sucks, I know, because you’re a fascist, but hey, I don’t make the rules.

B. Take away guns, and they’ll find another way, ‘glorified’ or not. Guns are only a tool.

C. Really? A class full of Kindergarteners is going to fight off an adult male with a knife?

Good Solid B-Plus on December 15, 2012 at 1:49 PM

so that the mom can carry on her gun hobby?

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM

If having a “gun hobby” is the problem, then please explain why there are no mass shootings at gun shows and shooting ranges?

Stu Gotts on December 15, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Oh I got it. It’s the dead mother’s fault. Nice. Go away.

Weight of Glory on December 15, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Yeah. She was.

She initated the divorce.

She took the shooter to the range, from an early age.

The shooter had an alteraction at the school two days earlier.

Did she know? Did someone call her? If so, what was her response?

If she didn’t know, then we have a young male, in the midst of losing his mind, and she had no idea he was starting altercations in elementary schools.

This is why you guys are going to lose the gun debate.

The gun owner failed her responsibilities.

She dissolved the marriage and went into some seclusion with the son, according to cousins, where neither of them worked but survived on 300K in alimony.

You know what that says?

Same thing about Loughner’s and Holmes family.

I’m hoping a trail appears that does show she knew he needed to institutionalized, and that’s what set him off.

If not, she trained a mentally unstable kid how to fire a gun, removed his fatherly supervision, and thought she could sit on him for days, months and years.

Yeah. She’s a saint.

budfox on December 15, 2012 at 1:50 PM

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57477542/14-killed-in-single-truck-crash-in-texas/

Cindy Munford on December 15, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Keep the nutjob “safely locked” away somewhere

Stu Gotts on December 15, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Good advice for anyone who knows sesqui the fascist puke.

22044 on December 15, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Do we have any evidence that the guy showed even the slightest inkling that he would possibly do something like this? Your comment implies irresponsibility in that his mother “knew” he was “a madman” who would go off if he had access. Did she keep them locked but somehow managed to gain access without her knowledge? We don’t know that, either. Too many conclusions jumped to in that one little sentence to suit me.

crosspatch on December 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM

we won’t know how much responsibility the mom had until all of the details come to light. we know that she owned those guns, including the bushmaster, in one of the safest places to live on the planet. people who knew the family reportedly said that the kid was “not okay.” even if he had been a perfectly fine kid, those guns are still hers, and as a gun owner she has some responsibility to make sure that her guns are not used to commit a crime.

sesquipedalian on December 15, 2012 at 1:51 PM