“I think if we’re going to control guns, we really have to do it massive”
Later in his appearance, Brooks added that, although Friday’s shooting likely won’t change public opinion on gun control in the long run, he favors strict gun control measures.
“These kinds of shootings historically have had no effect on public opinion in the gun debate,” Brooks said. “I think if we’re going to control guns, we really have to do it massive. I think I’m all for getting rid of the assault weapons and machine guns and all that … but if we want to prevent something like this, we have to really think seriously about drastically reducing the number of guns in our society, and particularly — this is an old Patrick Daniel Moynihan idea — the number of bullets. It is very hard to control 300 million guns. The bullets are a little easier to control.”









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Absolutely. Connecticut was well within its right as a sovereign state to try to prevent Mr. Lanza from buying a gun. That’s not what I’m arguing here. What I’m saying can be summed up in two parts:
A) There was little CT could have done to make it more difficult for Lanza to get a gun than it already was, and…
B) it would not have changed a thing about the carnage anyway.
Anyone who really believes that restricting gun ownership would have somehow eliminated or lessened this tragedy is some combination of stupid and dishonest…Ern.
gryphon202 on December 15, 2012 at 9:34 PM
Yes, let’s become Japan.
First, we need to popularize racist depictions of blacks in our media.
Next, we need to at least double our suicide rate.
Then, we need to lower our birth rate drastically.
Oh, and we need a plague of feminized shut-ins who add nothing to society.
Good Solid B-Plus on December 15, 2012 at 9:34 PM
Everyone should also know that the 2nd amendment only affirms a preexisting right of the people to keep and bear arms.
BTW, it bloody well says PEOPLE not militia, etc.
Galt2009 on December 15, 2012 at 9:35 PM
The original Japanese version of “Shall we Dance” makes a pretty good case for why we most certainly do NOT want to become anything like Japan. Great movie, but paints a painfully bleak portrait of Japanese culture.
gryphon202 on December 15, 2012 at 9:36 PM
“Action on the mental health side” means profiling. Now, to be fair, you’ll probably love it because it’s profiling of white people,.
Good Solid B-Plus on December 15, 2012 at 9:36 PM
Ernesto, perhaps you should start examining the anti-God, over sexualized, drug addicted, culture of death(abortion), media sensationalization of mass murders and dignity stealing government dependancy you leftists have wrought on us. I blame you leftists and your lack of respect for life and authority(unless its a socialist government of course) for the destruction of our culture that breeds maniacs and massacres such as the one we witnessed yesterday. From you all the up to your boy Obama there is nothing but devisivness, slander, covetousness and hatred toward traditional Americanism. It’s YOU and your ilk whom I’m going to hold responsible from now on.
jawkneemusic on December 15, 2012 at 9:37 PM
From the same ernesto who clearly indicated it’s black people who are the “inherently murderous” crime element in our nation?
Why do you want to now blame “mentally unstable people”?
Or are you proposing a new race-based hypothesis?
rogerb on December 15, 2012 at 9:37 PM
So you’re moving from a broke country with a higher crime rate to a broker country with a higher violent crime rate?
Big fan of fish and chips, I’m guessing?
Good Solid B-Plus on December 15, 2012 at 9:38 PM
Which is why the muslim-dominated ring suburbs of Paris are such garden spots.
Firefighters and paramedics don’t enter those hoods after dark without large numbers of heavily-armed cops accompanying them, and rape is so prevalent there that the French government no longer keeps statistics for those areas.
Bishop on December 15, 2012 at 9:39 PM
And I was merely stating that armed governments kill millions of more people (including many children) than armed individuals do, yet here you are arguing that our government should have all the weapons and we the common folk should have none.
William Eaton on December 15, 2012 at 9:41 PM
Asinine.
jawkneemusic on December 15, 2012 at 9:41 PM
Search engines are a wonderful thing, no?
All I can say is that if the feral government tries to round up firearms, there’s going to be a heckuva lot of cold dead fingers being pried.
platypus on December 15, 2012 at 9:43 PM
Is that what I was “arguing”? Have a good evening, Mr. Eaton.
Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on December 15, 2012 at 9:44 PM
Demographically Japan is 98.5% Japanese. Ernesto is advocating genocide.
Congrats, Ernesto, for revealing your true thoughts.
chimney sweep on December 15, 2012 at 9:50 PM
Yep. And I plan on taking every weapon off those folks to add to my inventory.
VegasRick on December 15, 2012 at 9:51 PM
Yes – responding just to slightly reformat your comments to make them a bit more readable – hope you don’t mind.
Galt2009 on December 15, 2012 at 9:51 PM
Looks like I’ll have to dust this one off for ernesto…
Dongemaharu on December 15, 2012 at 9:52 PM
No problem.
jawkneemusic on December 15, 2012 at 9:53 PM
Ernesto being a troll is no excuse for that level of cowardice and stupidity.
Tell me America wouldn’t benefit if we were 98.5% American, ‘conservative’, instead of having millions of illegals.
MelonCollie on December 15, 2012 at 9:54 PM
Maybe in addition to fixing the culture wrought by our friends on the Left, we should also do something about the Bull Stream Media glorifying these mass shooters to further their gun grabbing agenda.
Has anyone noticed that it always seems like we end of having a series of copycat incidents after the BSM goes all hog wild on the murderer mania?
Galt2009 on December 15, 2012 at 9:58 PM
Brooks is a psycho.
Robert_Paulson on December 15, 2012 at 9:59 PM
“If the phone don’t ring it’s me.”
arnold ziffel on December 15, 2012 at 10:02 PM
I am sorry maybe I misunderstand you..
When you said:
Yes there could have been. If there had been two armed policemen at that school the individual would have probably been stopped. One or two might have been killed, but that would be it. When you use the term “small arsenal” along with other statements in this tread about knife wielding Chinese I sensed your contempt for individual gun ownership.
The fact that so “no sensible law” could have saved those children is in fact an obviously falsehood and I assumed you were simply making an another argument…However if I was wrong, I am sorry….
William Eaton on December 15, 2012 at 10:02 PM
I agreed with most of what you said, and if figured that it’s easier to reformat than to write essentially the same thing.
Do you have anything to say about those comments?
I know it’s much easier to trash other people’s fundamental human rights than to admit guilt in what has happened in the past few years….
But as they say, confession is good for the soul
Galt2009 on December 15, 2012 at 10:04 PM
They make nice cars, food and womenz—-though apparently the Japanese men no appreciate what they have.
arnold ziffel on December 15, 2012 at 10:06 PM
Idiot. The 14th Amendment was passed, as well as for other reasons, to apply the bill of rights to the states.
MoreLiberty on December 15, 2012 at 10:17 PM
I don’t think these federal gun laws would be constitutional even if there was no 2nd Amendment. It’s ironic that without a working 10th Amendment there is no way we could ever budge on the 2nd. If you had a working 10th Amendment and repealed the 2nd with a repeal amendment, no state would have quite as generous gun rights as the 2nd allows.
Pass a modifying amendment for the 10th that bolsters states rights and spells out precisely what the federal government cannot interfere with, even if it’s a thousand page amendment, and then you can repeal the 2nd. Any Democrats want to make a deal?
Buddahpundit on December 15, 2012 at 10:22 PM
You really don’t see it do you? Your state has some of the toughest gun control laws and at the end of the day they did nothing to prevent this you freaking idiot because evil insane people could give two freaking figs about laws and gun control. They don’t care about any law. All your states “tough gun control laws” did was insure that when that shooter entered the school those that could have defended those children were unarmed in your “gun free zone” and the insane evil shooter had a free zone to fire at will and slay at will. passing more gun control laws will simply mean next time the body count will be higher as people are less able to defedn themselves.
unseen on December 15, 2012 at 10:31 PM
We did indeed misunderstand each other. Someone linked an article, I read it, and tailored my response to that article. We have many laws against crimes and criminals. I can’t see anything new proposed, however sensible, that would have helped if a woman chooses to keep a small arsenal in the home while knowing that her child is so disturbed that she felt need to quit her job in order to watch him round the clock.
Better? I apologize too for my lack of clarity.
Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on December 15, 2012 at 10:32 PM
what if there were 30 armed teachers in the school instead of 2 armed police men? the shooter killed 8 adults what makes you think 2 armed policeman could have stopped it? He could have easily killed 2 armed policeman. 30 armed teachers? now the law of averages are working in your favor. The better armed the citizens are the better thay are to defend themselves their children and their property from evil insane people.
In fact the sensible law that made schools “gun free zones” most likely lead to a higher body count then a smaller body count.
It is no small coincidence that these insane evil people pick “gun free zones” to kill in. when was the last time this evil tried to do a mass shooting in a police station? Then ask yourselve why. Just like the guy who said when asked why did he rob banks responded because that is where the money is. Why do shooters pick schools and other places like malls and theaters? Because that is where the most defensless people gather. You want to stop these killings arm the citizens and teach them to protect themsleves. Freedom solves these acts of evil in thier tracks the freedom to defend yourself stops these people.
You can pass all the laws you want but any laws that disarm the citzens will simple increase the body count next time.
unseen on December 15, 2012 at 10:39 PM
how about reintroducing laws to place distrubed people into mental instutions. If he was a danger that the mother felt the need to protect herself with guns from her child wouldn’t it have been better if the mother had a pathway to admit her son into a mental facility?
unseen on December 15, 2012 at 10:44 PM
Yeesh,
It isn’t the frackin’ guns that is the problem. It is the Gun Free Zones that is the problem.
Where do these things occur? Gun Free Zones.
I mean, when two young thugs storm into a gaming parlor in Florida, brandishing a bat and a gun, an old geezer shoots one and the other can’t trip over his own pants fast enough.
And in Clackamas, the body count was 2 + shooter….much lower than the shooter planned, since he was confronted by a citizen with a firearm. http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/12/daniel-zimmerman/clackamas-shooter-confronted-by-ccw-holder/
SO if we look at things rationally, we need to end the experiment of “Gun Free Zones” and get some sanity back about good people and firearms.
Criminals are opportunists. If there is a chance to get shot back at, they won’t go there. Crazies, like the one in CT, are frackin’ crazy. But an armed principal, instead of having to chase down the gunman and get killed would be alive today, perhaps. And definitely more children would be alive as well.
In Israel, when they were seeing such crimes, they trained and armed their teachers. And that kind of violence in schools.
Why is it so hard to see the facts and rationally figure out (OH WAIT..I just answered my own question, didn’t I?) what is going on.
Firearms are equalizers of power. The 21 yr old girl has as much “authority” as the 28 yr old thug. And she probably practices more with her firearm as well.
The statistics CLEARLY show that firearms are used to save lives much more often than take them. Sure, I wish “not one life” was taken, but given a choice between me and someone trying to harm/kill me, let me quote Cap’n Mal: Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill ‘em right back.
For more vetted studies and stats: http://www.gunfacts.info
ProfShadow on December 15, 2012 at 10:48 PM
it wasnt guns that killed these people, it was lack of guns that did.
Lifeisdeath on December 15, 2012 at 10:57 PM
It’s like blaming cars for drunk drivers.
Moesart on December 15, 2012 at 10:57 PM
you are an idiot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiguan_kindergarten_attack
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yan_Yanming
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanping_school_stabbings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_%282010%E2%80%932011%29
Lifeisdeath on December 15, 2012 at 10:59 PM
you are an idiot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiguan_kindergarten_attack
Lifeisdeath on December 15, 2012 at 11:00 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yan_Yanming
Lifeisdeath on December 15, 2012 at 11:00 PM
So many things have come up wrong on this story, but here’s the latest: Mom loved guns–collecting ‘em, shooting ‘em. As an ex Army machine-gun gal, I get her. But it seems reality would’ve set in once her kid was bad off enough she felt she couldn’t leave him alone. Instead she seems to have fallen into his reclusive lifestyle, and $250,000/year alimony wasn’t going to dig them out of the pit.
As to your question: Yes, there should be an easier path to get a loved one committed to a psychiatric facility than there is currently if they are a danger to themselves or others. It’s a frustrating mess. We just don’t know whether this mother even tried.
Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on December 15, 2012 at 11:00 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanping_school_stabbings
Lifeisdeath on December 15, 2012 at 11:00 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_%282010%E2%80%932011%29
Lifeisdeath on December 15, 2012 at 11:01 PM
thats just in china, recently…
Lifeisdeath on December 15, 2012 at 11:02 PM
Thing is, shooting sprees at schools are not a common occurrence, despite the distortion nationwide 24-7 reporting creates in the national psyche. Such tragedies are statistical noise compared to the things that most endanger the lives of children. That is why the people who call for stricter gun control are wrong, and that is also why those who call for arming the teachers are wrong.
shuzilla on December 15, 2012 at 11:09 PM
sure there is I would bet 80% of the population will get behind and law that would make it easier to lock up these insane evil people before they can go on hunting trips and make it harder to ge tthem released once they are committed. I would also bet that 80% of the population would be excited to back a law to increase the number of courts and toughen the penalites for all criminals and make jail a punishment instead of trying to rehab these people.
I would also bet 80% of the people would support increased jail sentences for those that use guns in crimes.
I would also bet a large majority would be for increased funding to train teachers and school officals the basics of self defenss be it gun training or karate or judo or even boxing.
further Im sure most people would support increased funding for security measures at schools
And if while it might not be a majarity im sure laws pushing school at home, vouchers and private schoools so that parents can increase their child’s safety on thier own without the need of government would be wieldly supported.
unseen on December 15, 2012 at 11:27 PM
why are you afraid of an armed citizenry?
unseen on December 15, 2012 at 11:29 PM
We have an armed citizenry. The question is, with any particular school having about a one-in-a-million chance of facing a mass-murder situation in any given year, will faculty bringing arms to work in every school/university/daycare/prescool make it any safer? Most likely not.
Like I said in another thread, if one could reasonably expect one innocent casualty at one particular school in 1000 years of its faculty members carrying a gun, then each year among 200,000 or so schools, univerisites, preschools and daycares, one should expect several hundred deaths to occur if there were guns in every school. Yet the combination of the VT shootings, Columbine and now Sandy Hook, the big massacres, don’t total 100 fatalities. It should be easy to see that even with the thinnest of chances for a weapon carried by faculty or security to do harm at any one school, the totality of that small chance multiplied several hundreds of thousands of times would result in a death count that eclipses the murders we try to prevent. And that’s if the murders were entirely prevented should another shooting spree occur, which is unlikeley.
shuzilla on December 15, 2012 at 11:52 PM
Ladysmith…. I am really tired of the lame posts from people like yourself about the stabbings that killed none in China. Do YOU EFFING Believe that criminal would not have KILLED ONE if that was his goal? He was 0 for 20 plus…you’d have to be friggin stupid to think so…
and in other news ……
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CW on December 15, 2012 at 11:57 PM
The coroner said the maniac pumped three to eleven rounds from his Bushmaster into each child. That’s why he didn’t move on to other classrooms–he was too focused on the gruesome overkill. In case someone misunderstands, I’m not being anti-gun. Tonight, I’m anti-that punk bitch Adam Lanza and his mother Nancy.
Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on December 16, 2012 at 12:02 AM
If the government can’t keep drugs and millions of people from coming across our southern border, what makes these fools in the media think they will stop illegal guns, er, undocumented guns from coming across the border?
Punchenko on December 16, 2012 at 12:02 AM
C’mon, ernie. Answer this.
BallisticBob on December 16, 2012 at 12:07 AM
Guy in China stabbed 22 kids (aged 6-12) and an old lady yesterday. No fatalities.
Just sayin’.
Ladysmith CulchaVulcha
Was he TRYING to kill anyone? I can shoot a bunch of people without killing them too. Just sayin’.
xblade on December 16, 2012 at 12:07 AM
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