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Bobby Jindal: It’s time to offer birth-control pills over the counter
Although the op-ed might seem like a shift to the left for the Catholic governor, Jindal also reiterated his conservative reasoning behind his support for the issue.
First, he made clear if oral contraception was more readily available, employers currently mandated to provide it under President Barack Obama’s Affordable Care Act would not need to do so…
Second, he touted the impact it could have on individual buyers, saying “it’s time to put purchasing power back in the hands of consumers.”
Finally, he said if oral contraception is available over-the-counter, this would put an end to the politicization of the issue.
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Yaz deaths on the first page of searching:
http://vtdigger.org/2011/12/01/young-womans-death-leads-to-questions-about-popular-contraceptive-known-as-yaz/
http://yaz-bloodclots.com/2012/06/deaths-from-blood-clots-spark-yaz-lawsuits/
http://www.sodahead.com/living/is-bayers-yaz-birth-control-pill-to-blame-for-teens-death/question-1864033/
http://www.lopezmchugh.com/2012/05/23/mother-attributes-daughters-death-to-yaz
cptacek on December 14, 2012 at 10:02 AM
Sure, as long as people can not sue the drug companies for the adverse effects that BC can cause?
watertown on December 14, 2012 at 10:05 AM
Co-opting Planned Parenthood by removing a source of their revenues?
blammm on December 14, 2012 at 10:16 AM
Probably not a great idea given the wide variety of potentially very bad side-effects that occur occasionally…
Also, as all medical treatment is complicated and higher risk when the patient is a fatty. And what is America now? 60% obese?
CorporatePiggy on December 14, 2012 at 10:17 AM
As does abortion. As does child birth. As does Mac’n on Ice T’s squeeze. Sex isn’t very safe. We should quit kidding ourselves otherwise.
shuzilla on December 14, 2012 at 10:17 AM
Funny you should mention aspirin. About a year ago I had a conversation with my doctor about a new medication he put me on — I had concerns about its side effects. His response was “Even aspirin has side effects. If aspirin had been developed today, the FDA would have turned it down and prevented it from being sold.”
AngusMc on December 14, 2012 at 10:21 AM
Since Uncle Sugar wouldn’t be paying for them, she’d think it was a bad idea.
Ward Cleaver on December 14, 2012 at 10:21 AM
hahaha.. Bobby stepped in it.. lol
gatorboy on December 14, 2012 at 10:23 AM
Really? He said that? Wow, stunning news.
Aspirin has side effects… and so does Thalidomide. Spooky.
sharrukin on December 14, 2012 at 10:24 AM
[regarding prescription medications being by prescription]
Help! Help! I’m being repressed!
You are an imbecile.
I could just as easily have made the same case for why statin drugs (e.g. Lipitor) are strictly by prescription which is that in some people statins can shut their liver down. Permanently. So in your unwise case you are likely to hear the ER doctor saying to get ready for the after life that maybe you should have consulted the sensible advice of one of those “crony anti-competition market interventionalists” before you effectively pulled the plug on yourself through irreversible ignorance.
viking01 on December 14, 2012 at 10:27 AM
Perhaps, and I am no expert on him, but he took the nickname Bobby as a little kid, and converted to Catholicism in high school. Was he already thinking of running for office then? It’s possible, I suppose.
Unfortunately, in order to become president, one has to be a politician through and through.
juliesa on December 14, 2012 at 10:28 AM
A significant percentage of caucasians have genetic blood clotting disorders (e.g., 3-10% for factor V leiden alone) – usually without their knowledge. Birth control pills can be deadly for these people.
besser tot als rot on December 14, 2012 at 10:33 AM
TxAnn56. I have gotten reamed for pointing this out on other Jindal threads. I didn’t think he was Presidential material before he last few months due to the lack of charisma and horrible speeches. But now he just seems slimy.
Illinidiva on December 14, 2012 at 10:36 AM
Born-again Birther
Capitalist Hog on December 14, 2012 at 10:40 AM
Nonsense on stilts.
JohnGalt23 on December 14, 2012 at 10:42 AM
You don’t have to buy birth control pills at all if you don’t want to.
That’s the whole point.
Moesart on December 14, 2012 at 10:45 AM
And also allowing a doctor to have a discussion with you regarding your risk for some extremely serious side effects.
But you know, if people who are ignorant of the risks take something that kills them, at least that meddling doctor stayed out of the marketplace.
Washington Nearsider on December 14, 2012 at 10:46 AM
This is absolutely true, but not because of side effects. It’s because aspirin’s mechanism of action isn’t understood.
No drug can get approval today without an acceptable understanding of its mechanism of action.
blink on December 14, 2012 at 10:49 AM
The morning after pill is already over the counter. Gov Jindal is correct. I hand out Yaz every day. Patients are more at risk behind their steering wheels.
Marcus on December 14, 2012 at 10:49 AM
Please. Who are you to question someone’s conversion? And what relevance does it have anyway? They’re ALL politicians.
changer1701 on December 14, 2012 at 10:58 AM
Great argument for a nanny government. Well done.
Dante on December 14, 2012 at 10:58 AM
Neither of his parents were American citizens at the time of his birth; therefore, he is not a natural born citizen.
Dante on December 14, 2012 at 10:59 AM
I know that anarchists like you support the sale of Snake Oil, but the desire to have “medications” tested before their sold isn’t a call for a nanny government.
DSHEA already allows oral supplements to be sold without government interference. I think that’s a good compromise. Unless, you think that sellers should be allowed to make unsubstantiated claims.
blink on December 14, 2012 at 11:03 AM
So can Tylenol.
Marcus on December 14, 2012 at 11:06 AM
Nanny government? I’m talking about private sector, private practice people who understand biochemistry and pharmacology so that when you start popping pills and f’ yourself up just because the vending machine had some they can juggle your remaining giblets to see if they can keep you somewhat physically if not mentally functional.
Since you obviously are a Darwin Award in progress you would interpret thus in your predictable slow-witted manner. Well done.
viking01 on December 14, 2012 at 11:08 AM
I did mention Tylenol (acetaminophen) in a follow-up post still stuck (maybe permanently) in moderation purgatory.
viking01 on December 14, 2012 at 11:10 AM
Where did I say medications shouldn’t be tested?
Dante on December 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM
I already brought it up on Page 1 in response to a similar inane argument.
Dante on December 14, 2012 at 11:12 AM
Do you think they should be?
blink on December 14, 2012 at 11:13 AM
I have a very close friend who was hospitalized for 5 days with blood clots caused by her contraception. It’s been a slow comeback for her.
These contraceptions are nothing to play with.
As as for those who keep saying “Tylenol & Asprin can kill you!11!!”, so will a paper clip or a thumb tack. Stop being facetious.
portlandon on December 14, 2012 at 11:14 AM
Yes. I wouldn’t purchase one that hadn’t been. Would you?
Dante on December 14, 2012 at 11:15 AM
Tested? There’s more to medicine than testing. There is something called weighing benefits versus risks where something perfectly safe for one person such as penicillin can put someone else six feet under. Have a little grapefruit with your Seldane…. sometimes science finds out some things after a helluva lot of tests have been done then something comes along to remind them that they missed a certain devastating combination.
viking01 on December 14, 2012 at 11:16 AM
You’re missing the point of the Tylenol/aspirin argument, or rebuttal I should say.
Dante on December 14, 2012 at 11:17 AM
That’s what I thought. You support the legalization of Snake Oil type medications. Thanks for confirming.
blink on December 14, 2012 at 11:17 AM
You’re not doing a good job of following a conversation.
Dante on December 14, 2012 at 11:18 AM
To be fair though, pharmacokinetics is rarely considered by a prescribing physician.
blink on December 14, 2012 at 11:19 AM
… but most would practically have to OD themselves on Tylenol for its risks to become applicable. It’s predecessor of decades ago phenacetin was a different story.
viking01 on December 14, 2012 at 11:22 AM
Flattery will get you nowhere, Jethro.
viking01 on December 14, 2012 at 11:24 AM
changer1701 The poster in question mentioned that some Indian Americans she works with are turned off by Jindal. You could see how a politician who totally disregarded his culture because it politically helped him might not sit well with those who haven’t disregarded their culture. If Jindal’s going for the whole I appeal to non-white people but a smarter than Rubio angle, then that is going to be a problem. As for me, I’m all for political conversions, but the last time I checked the Catholic Church was against Birth Control. So if you’re all about ZOMG heartfelt conversion I don’t think that you should be cafeteria about it. It just seems political to me
Illinidiva on December 14, 2012 at 11:30 AM
If such is the case with your doctor you may want to find another doctor because considering risk versus benefit was and is central to their training. Then experience can guide them towards what they can expect will work best for most.
It is unfortunate that many of the younger doctors are analyzer dependent whereby printouts can present a lesser substitute than knowing the patient. Helpful technology, yes, but detached.
viking01 on December 14, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Bobby Jindal is at as much a “man of the people” as Christie. He gets a worse rap though because he’s from LA.
This move, though controversial, seems to be driven by his being attuned to his constituents. I think he has the power to refute many GOP/Souther stereotypes. He isn’t always right. But he is always right in the mix.
I like him. I wonder how he would be treated by lib-media if his name was Jed or Bubba.
Capitalist Hog on December 14, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Garbage.
The man is totally at-ease with people from all backgrounds. That is a strength. It’s not hard to go and find intra-racial/ethnic detractors within any one group.
Capitalist Hog on December 14, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Duh? Hes absolutely right.
tommy71 on December 14, 2012 at 11:36 AM
hmmm… maybe it isn’t such a bad idea. Perhaps if some restriction on purchase can be sorted out (have to be 18, have to purchase from a licensed pharmacist who can consult with you about potential side effects) then I could see it being a go.
As it stands now, most retail pharmacists are far more educated and under-utilized for the work that they do. They are medically trained and up to date more on medication than even most physicians are, so why not let them be the ones to handle the ‘ooh its a scary drug with scary side effect’ issues.
theblackcommenter on December 14, 2012 at 11:38 AM
They are probably liberals first and Indian second.
blink on December 14, 2012 at 11:42 AM
I don’t think OTC and “provided by the pharmacist” are the same thing. OTC would be like throat lozenges and aspirin.
cptacek on December 14, 2012 at 11:43 AM
And of course, that was your point. Sorry.
cptacek on December 14, 2012 at 11:43 AM
I wasn’t conveying an anecdote about “my” doctor. This has to do with the results of some research about clinicians.
It might have been central to their training, but patient throughput is central to their practice. Taking the time to learn about the patient and convey anything other than the biggest risks associated with what is being prescribed hurts such throughput.
Yet many clinicians will merely say “Make sure to read the entire printout.” That’s often the extent of their concerns about pharmacokinetics.
blink on December 14, 2012 at 11:49 AM
But we know what turns YOU on, right Illindiva????
portlandon on December 14, 2012 at 11:49 AM
Another anti-competition, anti-market argument for state involvement. Why should a person have to have a license from government in order to operate a business or sell a good or service?
Dante on December 14, 2012 at 11:54 AM
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