Rove said he agrees with Gingrich on the idea that Clinton would be a challenge to the GOP, but challenged the notion she would be boosted by the support of President Obama. O’Reilly agreed with Gingrich’s overall point that the GOP is “pretty much in disarray and they can’t compete with the organized Democratic machine.” Rove said the Republicans would not win the 2016 election if it were held today, but we still have a ways to go before that.

O’Reilly then brought up a Fox News poll showing a majority of Americans believe spending cuts are the best way for the Obama administration and Congress to deal with the budget crisis. Rove reconciled that number with Obama’s victory by saying the president did a good job pitting the public against Mitt Romney during the race. O’Reilly cited another poll on the budget and said it seems Obama is going against public opinion time after time.