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		<title>By: petefrt</title>
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		<dc:creator>petefrt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I M P E A C H M E N T]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I M P E A C H M E N T</p>
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		<title>By: Anti-Control</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anti-Control</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As stupid as 0dumba is, he is not so stupid to ever try such a stunt, which is one reason he was able to win the Presidency while relatively braindead and unsavvy politicians like Peter Welch or Nancy Pelosi &lt;strong&gt;never&lt;/strong&gt; could.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As stupid as 0dumba is, he is not so stupid to ever try such a stunt, which is one reason he was able to win the Presidency while relatively braindead and unsavvy politicians like Peter Welch or Nancy Pelosi <strong>never</strong> could.</p>
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		<title>By: Schadenfreude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schadenfreude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Goebbels orgasmed again. His dreams and imagination have been surpassed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goebbels orgasmed again. His dreams and imagination have been surpassed.</p>
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		<title>By: The Rogue Tomato</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Rogue Tomato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Resist We Much on December 12, 2012 at 12:28 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We already are a banana republic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Resist We Much on December 12, 2012 at 12:28 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>We already are a banana republic.</p>
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		<title>By: conservative tarheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>conservative tarheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ellis on December 12, 2012 at 11:47 AM&lt;blockquote&gt;

this ... good post]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellis on December 12, 2012 at 11:47 AM<br />
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<p>this &#8230; good post</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Resist We Much</title>
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		<dc:creator>Resist We Much</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;“We would support your use of any authority available to you, including the 14th amendment, to preserve America’s full faith and credit and prevent further damage to our economy,” Welch said.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

 There is &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;NO&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; 14th Amendment option, ya bloody, totalitarian &#039;t@rd.

&lt;strong&gt;ARTICLE I, SECTION 4 OF THE FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT SAYS:&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;


1.  The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorised by law shall not be questioned.

2.  But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&quot;QUESTIONED&quot; DOESN&#039;T MEAN PAID.  IT DOESN&#039;T SAY THAT THE PRESIDENT SHALL PAY THESE DEBTS.  AND, IT CERTAINLY DOESN&#039;T AUTHORISE THE PRESIDENT TO BORROW MONEY TO PAY THE DEBTS.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;  In fact, you and your idiotic friends really should read &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;ALL&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; of the 14th Amendment because if you read Section 5, you&#039;d realise that this entire discussion is laughably invalid.

&lt;strong&gt;ARTICLE I, SECTION 5 OF THE FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT SAYS:&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
 
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;CONGRESS&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; shall have &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;THE POWER&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; to enforce, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;BY APPROPRIATE LEGISLATION&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, the provision of &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&quot;THIS ARTICLE,&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; which &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;INCLUDES SECTION 4&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;...the &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;VERY PART&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; of the Fourteenth Amendment that YOU claim gives President Obama the power to borrow money on the credit of the United States.  &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;CONGRESS - NOT KING BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA II.  GOT THAT?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Furthermore... 

&lt;strong&gt;ARTICLE I, SECTION 8 SAYS:&lt;/strong&gt;

&quot;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Congress&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; shall have &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Power&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;to pay the Debts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;To borrow money on the credit of the United States; ....&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;


You have evidently decided to chuck the entire Constitution and tell the President that he is not bound by his oath to uphold it.  What you are encouraging makes Richard Nixon look like a choirboy.  I hope that you realise that.  &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;AN ALLAH-BLOODY-DAMNED CHOIRBOY.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

You people are utterly shameless and resemble more the leaders of a third world banana republic than the United States of America.   I hope that you understand that things don&#039;t usually end well in such places for the people and their leaders.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“We would support your use of any authority available to you, including the 14th amendment, to preserve America’s full faith and credit and prevent further damage to our economy,” Welch said.</p></blockquote>
<p> There is <strong><em>NO</em></strong> 14th Amendment option, ya bloody, totalitarian &#8216;t@rd.</p>
<p><strong>ARTICLE I, SECTION 4 OF THE FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT SAYS:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>1.  The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorised by law shall not be questioned.</p>
<p>2.  But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.</p>
<p><strong><em>&#8220;QUESTIONED&#8221; DOESN&#8217;T MEAN PAID.  IT DOESN&#8217;T SAY THAT THE PRESIDENT SHALL PAY THESE DEBTS.  AND, IT CERTAINLY DOESN&#8217;T AUTHORISE THE PRESIDENT TO BORROW MONEY TO PAY THE DEBTS.</em></strong>  In fact, you and your idiotic friends really should read <strong><em>ALL</em></strong> of the 14th Amendment because if you read Section 5, you&#8217;d realise that this entire discussion is laughably invalid.</p>
<p><strong>ARTICLE I, SECTION 5 OF THE FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT SAYS:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><em>CONGRESS</em></strong> shall have <strong><em>THE POWER</em></strong> to enforce, <strong><em>BY APPROPRIATE LEGISLATION</em></strong>, the provision of <strong><em>&#8220;THIS ARTICLE,&#8221;</em></strong> which <strong><em>INCLUDES SECTION 4</em></strong>&#8230;the <strong><em>VERY PART</em></strong> of the Fourteenth Amendment that YOU claim gives President Obama the power to borrow money on the credit of the United States.  <strong><em>CONGRESS &#8211; NOT KING BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA II.  GOT THAT?</em></strong></p>
<p>Furthermore&#8230; </p>
<p><strong>ARTICLE I, SECTION 8 SAYS:</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;<strong><em>The Congress</em></strong> shall have <strong><em>Power</em></strong> to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, <strong><em>to pay the Debts</em></strong> and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;</p>
<p><strong><em>To borrow money on the credit of the United States; &#8230;.&#8221;</em></strong></p>
<p>You have evidently decided to chuck the entire Constitution and tell the President that he is not bound by his oath to uphold it.  What you are encouraging makes Richard Nixon look like a choirboy.  I hope that you realise that.  <strong><em>AN ALLAH-BLOODY-DAMNED CHOIRBOY.</em></strong></p>
<p>You people are utterly shameless and resemble more the leaders of a third world banana republic than the United States of America.   I hope that you understand that things don&#8217;t usually end well in such places for the people and their leaders.</p>
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		<title>By: RedCrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedCrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An acolyte of Sanders?

It is surreal that this idiot is saying that  giving Obama carte blanche to spend whatever he feels like spending will prevent further damage to the economy.

Also, collect all the signatures you want, jacka55. Without Congress, it&#039;s unconstitutional.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An acolyte of Sanders?</p>
<p>It is surreal that this idiot is saying that  giving Obama carte blanche to spend whatever he feels like spending will prevent further damage to the economy.</p>
<p>Also, collect all the signatures you want, jacka55. Without Congress, it&#8217;s unconstitutional.</p>
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		<title>By: onlineanalyst</title>
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		<dc:creator>onlineanalyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Somebody (preferably a Republican conservative knowledgeable about the &lt;em&gt;Constitution&lt;/em&gt; and articulate in a no-nonsense manner, should school this dimwit representative about the whole phrasing of the 14th Amendment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody (preferably a Republican conservative knowledgeable about the <em>Constitution</em> and articulate in a no-nonsense manner, should school this dimwit representative about the whole phrasing of the 14th Amendment.</p>
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		<title>By: Akzed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Akzed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why don&#039;t they just, um, vote on it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t they just, um, vote on it?</p>
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		<title>By: tom daschle concerned</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom daschle concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[$16.2 trillion in debt.

Assume average wage of $20/hour

$16,200,000,000,000/($20/hr)=810,000,000,000 Hours of work.

810,000,000,000 Hours of work to pay off the debt.

we departed realville a long long time ago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$16.2 trillion in debt.</p>
<p>Assume average wage of $20/hour</p>
<p>$16,200,000,000,000/($20/hr)=810,000,000,000 Hours of work.</p>
<p>810,000,000,000 Hours of work to pay off the debt.</p>
<p>we departed realville a long long time ago.</p>
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