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Poll: 60% support tax hikes on people who earn more than $250,000
Even 39 percent of Republicans support raising taxes on households making more than $250,000. Independents favor such a move by 21 percentage points, 59 to 38 percent.
Only 38 percent buy the GOP argument that raising taxes on households earning over $250,000 per year will have a negative impact on the economy. Fifty-eight percent do not…
According to the poll — taken from from Dec. 2 to Dec. 6 — 69 percent of respondents oppose raising taxes on small businesses that earn more than $250,000 — a group that the GOP is trying to protect with its push to extend the Bush tax cuts.
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Yeah right, let somebody else pay for all the sht I want from the government. Some rich guy!
Valkyriepundit on December 10, 2012 at 8:56 AM
Hey, fine, let ‘em have it. Good and hard.
BritCarGuy on December 10, 2012 at 8:56 AM
Can we at least stop calling them “millionaires” or “the rich”?
Fallon on December 10, 2012 at 8:57 AM
60% of Americans want to live comfortably out of their neighbors’ pockets. Greedy citizens and power-hungry politians.
We’re at the end of freedom, I think.
LilyBart on December 10, 2012 at 8:58 AM
Ok, let’s start with the first one. If 58% of the public thinks confiscating more money from wealthier Americans won’t have a negative impact on the economy, then am I to conclude that they believe the government will spend that money responsibly? If so, we’re truly lost as a nation.
As for the 2nd poll result, again we’re lost as a nation. If you raise taxes on people making more than 200 grand a year, you’re gonna raise them on small businesses. Do these idiots have any idea how many of those businesses file their taxes as individuals? It’s not like Romney didn’t just spend a good chunk of the campaign(including at that first debate) harping on this point.
Doughboy on December 10, 2012 at 8:58 AM
I am so glad we are a Constotutional Republic where my private property rights are not tied to the simple will of the majority.
/
Meat Fighter on December 10, 2012 at 9:01 AM
Constitutional….need more coffee.
Meat Fighter on December 10, 2012 at 9:01 AM
When the Socialists/Democrats are through with us the Dark Ages are going to look like a walk in the park.
ramesees on December 10, 2012 at 9:01 AM
Class envy… It always works sadly.
Illinidiva on December 10, 2012 at 9:02 AM
If you didn’t listen to it yet:
Bill Whittle, best speech of 2012
Shy Guy on December 10, 2012 at 9:02 AM
I’m 53 years old – have been self employed for 27 years – and starting making >$250k/yr about 5 years – after many years of just scrapping by – and having some very terrifying years.
Now my hard work is paying off – and I find myself with a target on my chest.
My honest opinion – ….. fine
jake-the-goose on December 10, 2012 at 9:05 AM
I believe so.
60% or more American citizens wanting to confiscate the money of the other remaining %.
What is amazing to me is that it doesn’t matter WTF the majority thinks about ANYTHING in this country.
We are a country of laws bound by a Constitution.
These polls are destructive to liberty.
And the ba$tard$ that do this are only stoking the fire for the Pols who want to make this happen to buy votes.
Dear God that commie-wannabe FDR would be really smug right now knowing the path he sent American down is safe & secure.
Badger40 on December 10, 2012 at 9:05 AM
The facts are indisputable. Spending is out of control and continues to worsen, not even level out.
One side sees the doom and is screaming that we need to fix it before it is too late. The facts are real.
Another side see the same facts- but thinks its better to demonize the people trying to fix the spending. Spending is in essence just free stuff to the masses. Free paychecks, free retirement checks, free medical, free food. Its what the Dems win with.
We are doomed. The dumb american public are all about the ‘free falling.’
Bensonofben on December 10, 2012 at 9:06 AM
We have a good friend with a busy boiler repair business.
He made the decision not to expand bcs it would stick him in the next tax bracket.
He has businesses in the oil fields begging for his business. And he turns them down bcs he’ll make too much $$.
Badger40 on December 10, 2012 at 9:07 AM
Yes, you will be fined. The fine of success!
Shy Guy on December 10, 2012 at 9:08 AM
It won’t pay for the profligate spending. It will actually decrease revenue to the Federal government. It will also tank the economy.
Apparently the liberals have won and no one is ever taught basic economics.
Fine. Give it to them. Stop fighting, Republicans. Come out, say that this will only make things worse, but since the American people are too stupid (and USE THOSE WORDS) to grasp that, they deserve to get what they want. Bring up a bill with EVERYTHING on Obama’s wishlist and vote present.
And then have the “I told you so” ads ready for 2014 when we get the same results as the 1937 double dip next year.
makattak on December 10, 2012 at 9:11 AM
BTW- I saw Mika this morning grilling Sherrod Brown about entitlements. The democrats continue to say entitlements are not the problem and can be fixed without tweaks,
Then he added a platitude of a 63 year old woman without healthcare who is just trying to survive for 2 more years so she can have free healthcare. What? (only those under 50 would have it raised AND ObamaCare is supposed to cover her anyways) Then he added that republicans want to raise the age to 70- which is a straight out lie.
This is the idiocy we are battling. The democrats are far more corrupt than the country knows and the media is in bed with them to let them get away with it.
Bensonofben on December 10, 2012 at 9:12 AM
And then these greedy morons wonder why people such as myself put so much effort into protecting my hard-earned assets!
What was I supposed to do, bend over?
OldEnglish on December 10, 2012 at 9:13 AM
A. No they do not, they believe it’s a “myth” perpetuated by Fox News. They’re economic illiterates.
or
B. They understand, but believe that we’re “all in this together” and everyone needs to pay their “fair share” in order to achieve Utopia. Can’t make an omelet without breaking some eggs.
or
C. They understand, and are consumed with greed and envy. They believe that small businesses should be punished.
visions on December 10, 2012 at 9:14 AM
Two things…first, the “wealthy” do not have to worry about “income” tax, they have a very small “income”. Look at the stats, the wealthiest neighborhoods have average incomes of under $100,000 per year. Newport Beach, Landfall, Aspen, wherever, they all are well under $100,000 per year income. Wealthy have assets, not income, and notice that the dems don’t go after assets.
Many, many, people are in transition, they may make $250,000+ for just a few years, many after many years of working and finally hitting it big for just a couple of years, and that is being taken away from them. To transition from average to “wealthy” you have to pass through the $250,000 mark, and this is another way to slow down the people and keep them “down”.
If they go to this $250,000, they should go with income averaging for 10 years…
right2bright on December 10, 2012 at 9:14 AM
The election is over and new polls are coming in. I want free stuff clearly won. How many Republicans in the end decided to get on the gravy train and take it. Their 4% plus the 47% would seem to be about right. Its right there 39% of Republicans want free stuff too. Good luck with that.
BullShooterAsInElk on December 10, 2012 at 9:16 AM
And how many of those 60% make more than $250k?
My guess is zero.
This is a stupid poll. Next thing you know we’ll be polling people on whether they would like a nuclear reactor in their backyard.
ButterflyDragon on December 10, 2012 at 9:17 AM
Conservatives are so ridiculous. Do you know why Americans used to oppose redistributionist taxes? Its because the gap between rich and poor wasn’t as massive as it is now. I don’t mean just in terms of actual income (though post-Reagan economics has done a lot to distribute wealth upwards, rather than so-called trickling it down) but the quality of life for working class is lower. People rail against public employee unions and their pensions, but they forget that those pensions only seem “special” because large private firms eliminated their employees pension plans firsts. At times busting unions to not pay out on pension agreements they had agreed to in good faith. Less pensions means older people working longer, which we know, ages folks. Private companies, through no fault of the federal government, have decided that in order to line the pockets of their investors at greater and greater rates of return, have slashed benefits and wages. All of this occurred under the Bush tax cuts, not as the result of high taxation. Supply side economics has been tried, the trickle down never happened. Corporate profits continued to rise throughout the Obama administration and none of that led to a wage increase or increased employment. Your economic philosophy has been proven to be a complete and utter failure.
libfreeordie on December 10, 2012 at 9:17 AM
You haven’t been paying attention. They most surely are going after assets. Obama has a hard-on for getting more taxes from estate taxes right now.
ButterflyDragon on December 10, 2012 at 9:19 AM
All I hear is “blah blah blah”. Wanna know something bud? You put your name out there along with finding investors to invest in your ideas and company. Once you do that and start making a lot of money come back and talk to us. YOU are not the one who is doing it. Once you do, then you have a right to talk about raising taxes on the “rich” when you start paying in ( and not doing a Buffet thing or GE thing and just not pay anything ), then we will see. I hope you pay your employees well.
watertown on December 10, 2012 at 9:22 AM
Goodbye Liberty.
When the US’s credit really does get crunched they’ll be after your savings next. And they’ll say they were elected to steal more from you. You have to have some skin in the game, stop being so selfish and try being ‘fair’.
Just like Rome and Greece, we’re going to take ourselves out.
CorporatePiggy on December 10, 2012 at 9:23 AM
That is what I was thinking. Its always better when its not your money. Kinda like Buffet who has not paid in how much money yet he advocates for higher taxes on the rich.
watertown on December 10, 2012 at 9:24 AM
Libfreeordie is a student of Krugman. HAaaaaaaaahhaahaa
You have had four years of your policies. Pumping 1 trillion of debt into the economy for 4 years… Printing money to prop up the economy and the unemployment rate has stayed constant. The only reason it is below 10 is that people have given up on looking.
Enough with your comedy routine that you call economic policy. The wealth gap is not the issue. It’s jobs.
Bensonofben on December 10, 2012 at 9:24 AM
Exactly. These poll respondents don’t seem to be making the connection. They favor raising taxes on households making over 250K, but not small businesses. WTH?
The poll also shows 64% favor raising taxes on large corporations. Do that many people have no realization of the fact that there is NO SUCH THING as corporate tax? When the government taxes any corporation, every penny of that tax is passed on to employees in the form of lower wages, to shareholders in the form of lower return on investment and to consumers in higher prices at the store. WE pay ALL corporate taxes.
Facepalm.
lynncgb on December 10, 2012 at 9:26 AM
Yep. And an election cycle won’t break that trend.
Oooh! I would! I want one of those small modular reactors! I could power the entire area where I live and wouldn’t have to use gas to heat my house or water!
Bullcrap.
GWB on December 10, 2012 at 9:31 AM
60% of Americans want “the other guy” to pay. 60% of Americans don’t think THEY are “the other guy”.
ctmom on December 10, 2012 at 9:32 AM
Yet the rich are paying a higher share of the tax burden now than they used to. Yes, even after the Bush tax cuts were passed. Explain that.
Doughboy on December 10, 2012 at 9:34 AM
Capitalism is nothing more than free people engaging in commerce. It’s not a philosophy, it’s a result of freedom.
Over the decades socialism has intruded on the free market government and has had more and more say in how business operates, and bigger government regulating business means corruption. The more regulation, the greater the corruption. It’s not Republicans who want more regualtion of business, it’s democrats. Democrats reap the bounty of lobbyists and political donations as big businesses curry favor. In turn they favor those businesses and protect them or pass laws they give them an edge over competitors.
What you see today is a direct result of liberal interference, not the free market which really hasn’t existed for decades.
darwin on December 10, 2012 at 9:35 AM
What people are also missing…75% want government to reduce spending.
Shouldn’t that be the main headline? 3/4 of the people want government to cut out the fat, cut out increase spending…and of course the Republican’s will ignore that like the dems ignore it.
right2bright on December 10, 2012 at 9:38 AM
For whom?
OldEnglish on December 10, 2012 at 9:39 AM
libfreeordie Companies switched to 401Ks because of that math stuff that liberals hate so much. Traditional pensions have a tendency to bankrupt companies. The reason why conservatives rail against union pensions for state workers is because these are subject to the same silly math stuff as private pensions. Only these will probably make states go bankrupt. Also, there is a high correlation between badly run/ corrupt states and pension issues. (See IL and CA).
Illinidiva on December 10, 2012 at 9:44 AM
Yup, but libs can only theorize about how their policies will work. In the real world, in practice, their policies fail. They must distract and point at others, still blaming Bush but not Clinton or Obama, Reagan but not Carter.
How refreshing would it be for a lib to say, you know, maybe Obama should rethink this redistributionist theory. It seems to be hurting way more people than it helps. And, yes. I do think that enticing people to become dependent on the government hurts them.
Fallon on December 10, 2012 at 9:45 AM
So you admit that the Obama policies were a failure?
Your post is so full of foolishness, it should be a standard as to why the liberals don’t have a clue.
The last paragraph tells it all…Obama’s policies have failed, therefore conservative policies are also a failure…good grief.
Wages have decreased, so has employment, and most every other economic measure, under Obama it has been an utter failure, and you finally admit it.
And yes, some business did pull back on pensions, that is what responsible business people do, they protect their investment…they can’t, like the government, just raise taxes and pay for their poor performance…of course that would never occur to you, that allowing gov. employees to continue to enjoy additional benefits while the politicians destroy the economy, adds to the destruction….good grief, not too good in econ are you?
You attack business for being good stewards, and praise government for being poor stewards…gee, I wonder how Obama got elected??
right2bright on December 10, 2012 at 9:47 AM
It’s over Johnny.
the new aesthetic on December 10, 2012 at 9:54 AM
Fallon.
The libs have their perti dishes of economic theory. They call these the economic meccas of California and New York.
The ones with unfunded liabilities 10 times higher than red states. The ones with the highest tax rates and the least amount of business start ups. The ones with increasing tax rates but decreasing tax receipts. The same states that are asking for federal tax dollars to bail out their fiscal messes.
Yeah- lecture conservatives on economic policy. Sheesh
Bensonofben on December 10, 2012 at 9:55 AM
He/she explains nothing, they have no idea, none…Obama economic policies have failed because years ago they think some Republican’s ideas have failed.
In fact, he/she probably thinks the president actually creates the budget and spends the money…
The only statement that should be addressed, regarding economics is…”The dems have nothing to say, nothing of value, until they actually produce a budget that can be analysed and debated”, until then it is just talk and bluster. Without a budget their are no real cuts or increases, it’s just shuffling money around.
right2bright on December 10, 2012 at 9:56 AM
Because of the very wage gap between rich and poor that I just described. Jeez louise that’s an easy one.
Oh indeed. Obama pursued nearly the identitical economic strategy that McCain would have. Bail out the financial industry, no real support for homeowners, a “stimulus” that was primarily tax cuts and filling state budget deficits, hardly a blip of real Keynsian planning and then in 2010 caving on tax rates and the public option. Approach to education, Bush part III.
libfreeordie on December 10, 2012 at 9:59 AM
Utterly clueless.
darwin on December 10, 2012 at 10:04 AM
One tiny little problem with your argument. The rich pay a higher share of the tax burden than the percentage of the nation’s wealth they currently possess. So we’ve already been soaking them and yet that hasn’t “trickled down” to the middle and lower income folks as you’ve put it. So how is making them pay even more going to help?
Doughboy on December 10, 2012 at 10:10 AM
Interesting…
What else does New York, Los Angeles and Chicago have in common?
Fallon on December 10, 2012 at 10:12 AM
Shouldn’t have tried to ask a rhetorical question… More caffeine!
Thesse cities are liberal bastions of power and money creating the very gap that they blame on Republicans and capitalism…
Fallon on December 10, 2012 at 10:17 AM
Aw, crap. Slow down. Proofread…
Fallon on December 10, 2012 at 10:18 AM
Utter uttering.
Shy Guy on December 10, 2012 at 10:20 AM
The government has devolved into a common thief, skimming off their share and giving the remaining scraps to the moochers so that the moochers will keep them in power.
Nice racket.
justltl on December 10, 2012 at 10:22 AM
Maybe instead of viewing the government as a common thief-which anthropomorphizes it-I’ll think of it as a giant, blood sucking parasite- maybe something with antennae and multiple legs.
justltl on December 10, 2012 at 10:28 AM
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