Conservatives have a point about the safety net and dependency
This is painful for a liberal to admit, but conservatives have a point when they suggest that America’s safety net can sometimes entangle people in a soul-crushing dependency. Our poverty programs do rescue many people, but other times they backfire.
Some young people here don’t join the military (a traditional escape route for poor, rural Americans) because it’s easier to rely on food stamps and disability payments.
Antipoverty programs also discourage marriage: In a means-tested program like S.S.I., a woman raising a child may receive a bigger check if she refrains from marrying that hard-working guy she likes. Yet marriage is one of the best forces to blunt poverty. In married couple households only one child in 10 grows up in poverty, while almost half do in single-mother households.
Most wrenching of all are the parents who think it’s best if a child stays illiterate, because then the family may be able to claim a disability check each month.











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And a “!” to it and it could be Hillary’s slogan for 2016. And it’ll probably work.
forest on December 10, 2012 at 9:21 AM
Kristof has just been taken off the White House Christmas party list.
I wonder if he’ll understand one day the goal isn’t a safety net, but complete, crushing dependency on a rich and powerful ruling class.
darwin on December 10, 2012 at 9:24 AM
Sorry, cant have women in economically secure middle class families.Cant have them married. They wouldnt vote for Democrats. We need them as lil welfare bunnies depending on sugar daddy government!
The progressive agenda is and is furthered by decadence.
Valkyriepundit on December 10, 2012 at 9:25 AM
FIFM
ShainS on December 10, 2012 at 9:26 AM
Why should so-called “liberals” start caring about what’s best for people as long as they win?
Vera71 on December 10, 2012 at 9:26 AM
Working as planned.
astonerii on December 10, 2012 at 9:30 AM
Gee – REALLY?
Pork-Chop on December 10, 2012 at 9:31 AM
Heart-wrenching piece. None of us really pay attention to impoverished, drug-ravaged Appalachia unless some wayward Governor uses the region to cover his affair.
Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on December 10, 2012 at 9:43 AM
It’s not soul crushing, “Life of Julia” was able to find meaning by doing some graphic design work in between birthing a b@stard and cashing welfare checks.
RMOccidental on December 10, 2012 at 9:45 AM
Nah … Appalachia is doing great. That’s why democrats killed the only true industry there … coal.
darwin on December 10, 2012 at 9:46 AM
We spent 1 trillion dollars in welfare.
Enough to amount to over $30,000 for each recipient. Most of that went to bureaucrats who are the real recipients of the welfare state.
gwelf on December 10, 2012 at 9:50 AM
And, yet, Kristof will keep on being a liberal. Soon enough, he’ll be churning out more articles where he completely forgets he ever wrote this piece. Gotta stay on the cocktail-party-invitation list.
Bitter Clinger on December 10, 2012 at 9:50 AM
got any charts to show that? I would be interested to see that and have that as ammunition.
astonerii on December 10, 2012 at 9:55 AM
Liberals like Kristof who can admit that conservatives have a point still don’t abandon their core belief that a large central government can create prosperity and eliminate human suffering. They just propose more government solutions to the problems government inflicts on it’s people.
gwelf on December 10, 2012 at 9:56 AM
Kristof also says this:
So he’ll oppose tax hikes on small business currently being proposed by Democrats right? Or demand Obama open up public lands for energy use? Or oppose the horrible costs and regulatory burden ObamaCare imposes on small businesses?
gwelf on December 10, 2012 at 10:01 AM
If you subsidize something, you get more of it. I assume that’s the point.
JeremiahJohnson on December 10, 2012 at 10:01 AM
I don’t have a chart that explicitly says this. But there is this:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/the-welfare-spending-chart-you-wont-want-to-see/
Basically, more is spent on welfare per family than the median family income. If most of that actually resulted in food, housing, and cash to recipients they would no longer be poor. Particularly if they had employment.
It could be that most of the money spent doesn’t actually go to overhead and administration – I believe it’s Heritage which has shown that the average poor person in America has a lot of amenities which one does not often associate with being poor and this might be part of the reason why.
Regardless, we’re giving help to vast swaths of people who don’t need it.
gwelf on December 10, 2012 at 10:09 AM
I thought I remembered another industry…
Fallon on December 10, 2012 at 10:24 AM
No shinola, Sherlock.
Bob's Kid on December 10, 2012 at 10:28 AM
Kudos to Kristof for not hiding a story that’s unfavorable to his political beliefs. We should encourage liberals who are willing to speak about about the problems of liberalism.
And his story would’ve made a compelling argument for a GOP candidate. Too bad none of them made that argument. We need candidates who are willing to talk about how government handouts are a trap; but most GOP candidates are scared to mention anything about taking away a voter’s treats.
hawksruleva on December 10, 2012 at 10:41 AM
I saw a chart last week that said a single parent with 3 kids on welfare has more disposable income than a family of 4 making $60,000 a year.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/entitlement-america-head-household-making-minimum-wage-has-more-disposable-income-family-mak
hawksruleva on December 10, 2012 at 10:43 AM
Probably so. But at least he’s open to seeing problems with his own belief system. If he was a Congressman, he might be open to compromise.
Part of what’s happening lately is that conservatives and liberals can’t seem to appreciate when our opponent has a good point. That makes compromise harder. More importantly for us, it makes it harder to win new votes for conservative ideas.
hawksruleva on December 10, 2012 at 10:45 AM
I have a point about Social Security and the lack of well raised, well adjusted, well educated youth this nation creates.
People do not want to face reality. If you subsidize something you get more of it. If you tax something, you get less of it. If you regulate it, you get less of it.
Social security is two of these. It is a tax and a subsidy. A tax on having children and a subsidy for not having children.
astonerii on December 10, 2012 at 10:56 AM
Fat lot of good that does after an election when the people making these arguments were demonized as pushing grandma off a cliff, and the entire national conversation about the budget has degenerated into a class-warfare argument. An argument which, thanks to Romney’s complete neglect to push back on the issue, we are now heavily on the defensive.
It’s easy to concede a point when it costs you nothing, and the progressives have agitated the populace into an “eat the rich” mentality. Nobody will pay attention to this token concession piece, just like nobody noticed that, after a decade of saying the tax cuts went to the rich, suddenly the administration undermines that argument by campaigning to keep thousands of dollars in your pocket, and only then because they have a chance to blame it on Republicans.
P.S. – you guys have that thing again where the Hot Air logo pushes up from the top of the footer and mostly-masks the comment submission button and completely masks the log-in link.
The Schaef on December 10, 2012 at 11:08 AM
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slickwillie2001 on December 10, 2012 at 12:11 PM
It is terrible. Not only are parents depriving their children of the opportunity to learn, it also leads to more difficulty in breaking the welfare cycle as the children become adults, thus promoting more generational welfare (not to mention the psychological damage these programs inflict on their recipients).
Does Goverment Assistance Psychologically Damage Its Recipients?
right of the dial on December 10, 2012 at 12:51 PM
This mentality is no different than the professional beggars in 3rd world countries where they will self-mutilate/maim to “legitimize” their beggarhood – ie cripple.
AH_C on December 10, 2012 at 3:10 PM