Suggest eliminating the DoE to a Leftist and they think you are literally advocating for the elimination of schools in America. They think that without the DoE, public education would cease to exist. They think you are “anti-education.”

How is it possible to have a reasonable, rational discussion with people (Lefties) that are so off-base and so detached from reality and history?

visions on December 8, 2012 at 5:17 PM

No doubt.

Here 75% of our property taxes go directly to our school district. And even though property tax is high, most people seem at peace with that and our school district is well above the average if not world-beating. People have financial and social ‘skin in the game’ to borrow Barky’s slogan – they have zero interest in the DoE and very little in what Austin has to say.

People are very pro-education but they know this, like law enforcement, is a fundamentally local issue.

The federal government has ZERO place in education and there should not be a DoE.

Education is a local issue, even more than a state issue.

CorporatePiggy on December 8, 2012 at 5:07 PM

Suggest eliminating the DoE to a Leftist and they think you are literally advocating for the elimination of schools in America. They think that without the DoE, public education would cease to exist. They think you are “anti-education.”

How is it possible to have a reasonable, rational discussion with people (Lefties) that are so off-base and so detached from reality and history?

Education is a local issue, even more than a state issue.

Given the Fed boys record with Education for oh, the last 30 years…I think it’s time to let them ALL go. Return the money to the states and let the entire DoE join the ranks of the FunEmployed.

Bill Bennett is about the only pseudo conservative on the planet who thinks the DoE is worth keeping, and that’s not surprising as it was the only way on earth he’d ever get a Cabinet job.

And he has Arne Duncan, and I think Arne deserves praise.

You lost me right there, chump.

Knock off the federal intrusion in education already unless it is to promote voucher systems in states and localities.

Question, aren’t foreign students getting their education from the government too?

thebrokenrattle on December 8, 2012 at 4:49 PM

Not in the same fashion. If we even did as little as tell parents “this is how much money we spend on your progeny each year, you get to choose what school to spend it at”, there would be MASSIVE improvements.

Hundreds of thousands of parents (if not more due to the Obama recession) simply do not have any choice but to send their children to the ‘free’ public skrewl system.

A painfully accurate depiction of our system was a political cartoon (I think by Ramirez) of a young black lady asking why she couldn’t go to private school like Chelsea Clinton, and her mother was telling her that she didn’t have a choice because they couldn’t afford it. In the background was a run-down wreck of a ‘school’ with all sorts of horrible things going on. What’s truly d@mning is that this is true every day of the week all across the nation.

Talk about it after you go get some yourself, Bushie.

Or for that matter look at our national test results, see how badly foreign students are kicking our fannies, and take hints from them.

MelonCollie on December 8, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Question, aren’t foreign students getting their education from the government too?