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		<title>By: MHatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>MHatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 23:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;crosspatch on December 8, 2012 at 3:54 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But what about the drop in GOP support from 2010?
I haven&#039;t seen anything on that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>crosspatch on December 8, 2012 at 3:54 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>But what about the drop in GOP support from 2010?<br />
I haven&#8217;t seen anything on that.</p>
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		<title>By: FloatingRock</title>
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		<dc:creator>FloatingRock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 22:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Wethal on December 8, 2012 at 4:54 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Based on their cheating in the primaries I have little doubt that the GOP also tried their best to cheat during the general election.  Both sides are probably guilty.  It&#039;s a sign of the times, America is an immoral, decaying, bankrupt nation hell bent on it&#039;s own destruction, thanks to people on both sides who have forgotten the principles that made America great.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wethal on December 8, 2012 at 4:54 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Based on their cheating in the primaries I have little doubt that the GOP also tried their best to cheat during the general election.  Both sides are probably guilty.  It&#8217;s a sign of the times, America is an immoral, decaying, bankrupt nation hell bent on it&#8217;s own destruction, thanks to people on both sides who have forgotten the principles that made America great.</p>
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		<title>By: FloatingRock</title>
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		<dc:creator>FloatingRock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 22:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;One reason the 2012 vote for Obam was so high in 2012 was unprecedented voter fraud.

Wethal on December 8, 2012 at 4:54 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Even if that&#039;s true it only serves the GOP right for all the cheating they perpetrated against Ron Paul and his supporters during the GOP presidential primaries.  If you guys are going to fight like pigs then don&#039;t complain when you get covered in pig $#!t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>One reason the 2012 vote for Obam was so high in 2012 was unprecedented voter fraud.</p>
<p>Wethal on December 8, 2012 at 4:54 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Even if that&#8217;s true it only serves the GOP right for all the cheating they perpetrated against Ron Paul and his supporters during the GOP presidential primaries.  If you guys are going to fight like pigs then don&#8217;t complain when you get covered in pig $#!t.</p>
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		<title>By: Wethal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wethal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 21:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;crosspatch on December 8, 2012 at 3:54 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

One reason the 2012 vote for Obam was so high in 2012 was unprecedented voter fraud. The GOP poll watchers were kicked out of dozens of polling places with fake challenges to their credentials. 

The poll watchers had to go to a judge for a hearing to get admitted. This took several hours. (Credentials were ok all along). In the meantime, the Dems had &quot;voted&quot; for everyone on the list who was dead, moved, or had told them they weren&#039;t coming. (The Dems actually call ahead to every Dem voter in the precinct to find this out.) 

The Dems wanted to make sure the Dem vote in Philly was so high that the &quot;swing suburbs&quot; could not swing it to Romney.

This happens every time. The GOP poll watchers are challenged despite getting proper credentials ahead of time. In 2012 one GOP poll watcher was physically thrown out a polling place by a Dem thug.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>crosspatch on December 8, 2012 at 3:54 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>One reason the 2012 vote for Obam was so high in 2012 was unprecedented voter fraud. The GOP poll watchers were kicked out of dozens of polling places with fake challenges to their credentials. </p>
<p>The poll watchers had to go to a judge for a hearing to get admitted. This took several hours. (Credentials were ok all along). In the meantime, the Dems had &#8220;voted&#8221; for everyone on the list who was dead, moved, or had told them they weren&#8217;t coming. (The Dems actually call ahead to every Dem voter in the precinct to find this out.) </p>
<p>The Dems wanted to make sure the Dem vote in Philly was so high that the &#8220;swing suburbs&#8221; could not swing it to Romney.</p>
<p>This happens every time. The GOP poll watchers are challenged despite getting proper credentials ahead of time. In 2012 one GOP poll watcher was physically thrown out a polling place by a Dem thug.</p>
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		<title>By: FloatingRock</title>
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		<dc:creator>FloatingRock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 21:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s the thing, the Republicans Party is run by a bunch of effing lying crooks, and people like crosspatch pretends like I&#039;m the problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the thing, the Republicans Party is run by a bunch of effing lying crooks, and people like crosspatch pretends like I&#8217;m the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: FloatingRock</title>
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		<dc:creator>FloatingRock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 21:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You guys lost in &#039;06 without my help too, BTW.  If you want to win you have to include people like me or else you have to out Democrat the Democrats.  Your choice.

But if you guys are going to out Democrat the Democrats then you have to make way for a prominent third party or else it&#039;s war as far as I&#039;m concerned, because I&#039;ll be damned if I have to live my entire life in this country never once having true representation in Congress or the White House.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys lost in &#8217;06 without my help too, BTW.  If you want to win you have to include people like me or else you have to out Democrat the Democrats.  Your choice.</p>
<p>But if you guys are going to out Democrat the Democrats then you have to make way for a prominent third party or else it&#8217;s war as far as I&#8217;m concerned, because I&#8217;ll be damned if I have to live my entire life in this country never once having true representation in Congress or the White House.</p>
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		<title>By: ShainS</title>
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		<dc:creator>ShainS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 21:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If 2008 was such an outlier, what does Bedford consider -- and how does he explain -- the 2010 election?

Also, where&#039;s the data on voter fraud and why isn&#039;t that being considered in his analysis?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If 2008 was such an outlier, what does Bedford consider &#8212; and how does he explain &#8212; the 2010 election?</p>
<p>Also, where&#8217;s the data on voter fraud and why isn&#8217;t that being considered in his analysis?</p>
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		<title>By: FloatingRock</title>
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		<dc:creator>FloatingRock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 21:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Sekhmet on December 8, 2012 at 4:18 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You guys tried to win without my help in &#039;08 and &#039;12, and how did that work out for you?

In &#039;10 you had my support and others like myself and how did that work?  We won in a landslide!

Together we stand, divided we fall.

But if you and crosspatch prefer to keep losing then by all means just keep following Boehner and Romney to your doom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sekhmet on December 8, 2012 at 4:18 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>You guys tried to win without my help in &#8217;08 and &#8217;12, and how did that work out for you?</p>
<p>In &#8217;10 you had my support and others like myself and how did that work?  We won in a landslide!</p>
<p>Together we stand, divided we fall.</p>
<p>But if you and crosspatch prefer to keep losing then by all means just keep following Boehner and Romney to your doom.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 21:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
To blame it on race only shows the disconnect between the pundits/consultants and the actual voters.
I live in a rural are and Republicans carried the Hispanic vote by at least 60%.
Its rural verses urban and Republicans can’t win urban.

MHatch on December 8, 2012 at 3:26 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We have a successful and very popular mayor of Albuquerque but on the national scale the &quot;true conservatives&quot; would probably find much to criticize.  We have a successful GOP Governor of Nevada that &quot;true conservatives&quot; would probably not like either.  What I think we need to do is agree on role of government and economic issues at the national politics level and leave the culture wars to the local level.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
To blame it on race only shows the disconnect between the pundits/consultants and the actual voters.<br />
I live in a rural are and Republicans carried the Hispanic vote by at least 60%.<br />
Its rural verses urban and Republicans can’t win urban.</p>
<p>MHatch on December 8, 2012 at 3:26 PM
</p></blockquote>
<p>We have a successful and very popular mayor of Albuquerque but on the national scale the &#8220;true conservatives&#8221; would probably find much to criticize.  We have a successful GOP Governor of Nevada that &#8220;true conservatives&#8221; would probably not like either.  What I think we need to do is agree on role of government and economic issues at the national politics level and leave the culture wars to the local level.</p>
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		<title>By: Sekhmet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sekhmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 21:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the Ron Paul movement wasn&#039;t engineered as a disruption, how come there were not concerted efforts at selecting libertarian-minded House, Senate, state house, and gubernatorial candidates? It was all, &quot;We&#039;ll rules-raep our guy into the GOP Presidential nomination, and it will be kittens and rainbows from here on out!&quot;

And this was two election cycles running. What is Floating Rock going to do if Ron Paul doesn&#039;t run in 2016, as he is likely not to do?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Ron Paul movement wasn&#8217;t engineered as a disruption, how come there were not concerted efforts at selecting libertarian-minded House, Senate, state house, and gubernatorial candidates? It was all, &#8220;We&#8217;ll rules-raep our guy into the GOP Presidential nomination, and it will be kittens and rainbows from here on out!&#8221;</p>
<p>And this was two election cycles running. What is Floating Rock going to do if Ron Paul doesn&#8217;t run in 2016, as he is likely not to do?</p>
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