Solution to debt-ceiling standoff: A trillion-dollar platinum coin?
Under current law, the Treasury is technically allowed to mint as many coins made of platinum as it wants and can assign them whatever value it pleases.
Under this scenario, the U.S. Mint would make a pair of trillion-dollar platinum coins. The president orders the coins to be deposited at the Federal Reserve. The Fed moves this money into Treasury’s accounts. And just like that, Treasury suddenly has an extra $2 trillion to pay off its obligations for the next two years — without needing to issue new debt. The ceiling is no longer an issue.
“I like it,” said Joseph Gagnon of the Peterson Institute for International Economics. “There’s nothing that’s obviously economically problematic about it.”









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Economically? No. Ethically? I’d call that a big yes but then again when has Obama ever been concerned with ethics.
Rocks on December 7, 2012 at 12:37 PM
If only this was a main page topic.
What next up here, discussing possible 2012 election results?
Bishop on December 7, 2012 at 12:40 PM
Bishop would be a lot funnier if he’s at least occasionaly engaged in snark.
apostic on December 7, 2012 at 12:42 PM
Oh Cripes. Isn’t this exactly what that nut Bo Gritz suggested all those years ago and they all thought he was insane? Please tell me this isn’t going to really happen.
tlclark on December 7, 2012 at 12:44 PM
At least it’s not as wacky as the notion that we only spend what we take in.
TexasDan on December 7, 2012 at 12:46 PM
Just make sure C. Montgomery Burns isn’t given the task of delivering them to the Federal Reserve.
http://www.snpp.com/episodes/5F14
djm1992 on December 7, 2012 at 12:49 PM
Whether paper or metal, when you have fiat currency, you can value it any number you want. Doesn’t change what you’re doing or what will happen. Weimar here we come.
Logus on December 7, 2012 at 12:50 PM
Why not make 16 of em then, and pay off the debt entirely? This is silly.
vegconservative on December 7, 2012 at 12:51 PM
Let’s see them try to pay down the Chinese debt with one of these coins.
tbrosz on December 7, 2012 at 12:54 PM
Huh?
This is the same as printing trillions of dollars devaluing everyone’s savings.
Who doesn’t see this as a problem?
Galt2009 on December 7, 2012 at 12:55 PM
Didn’t we already have a thread on this? Or was it hashed out on the thread about the 14th Amendment?
GWB on December 7, 2012 at 12:55 PM
Why bother with a solid metal coin…?
Based on the fundamentally dubious legality and logic of this pathetic scheme, why not just craft a dozen or so wooden coins, and cover them in platinum paint… and add an extra zero to boot.
My example would no more worth a trillion, than the original concept… and equally fraudulent.
Such an idiotic stunt will get Treasury Bonds down-graded within a month of their issuance.
CPT. Charles on December 7, 2012 at 12:56 PM
Love it, more smoke and mirrors for stuff that doesn’t really exist. America, you wanted it; you got it!
They should bring them out once a year to flip at the Super Bowl.
reddevil on December 7, 2012 at 1:00 PM
This is would make a SNL skit without much of a rewrite.
STL_Vet on December 7, 2012 at 1:00 PM
I am sure the Chinese will be asking for one of those coins.
Jabberwock on December 7, 2012 at 1:02 PM
Why not print 20 of them and get change back?
Left Coast Right Mind on December 7, 2012 at 1:02 PM
Jeff Foxworthy to the repo man:
“a check?…Hell yeah I can write you a check!…I thought you wanted money….Hell..why don’t I just go ahead and pay the whole damn thing off right now!”
txsurveyor on December 7, 2012 at 1:05 PM
If a 1oz. platinum coil can be valued at $1,000,000,000,000, then that present I left in my toilet bowl this morning has to be worth at least, what… a Porsche Boxter?
Hootie on December 7, 2012 at 1:05 PM
I love this plan!I’m excited to be apart of it! Let’s do it!
Let. It. Burn.
BigGator5 on December 7, 2012 at 1:06 PM
Rainbow skittles.
John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 1:17 PM
I guess everything is awesome if we ignore the obvious. A major devaluing of our currency will act as a hidden tax and significantly reduce everyone’s buying power.
NotCoach on December 7, 2012 at 1:28 PM
People who don’t save.
Obama 2012!
rogerb on December 7, 2012 at 1:38 PM
Weimar, Argentina, Zimbabwe, US. A loaf of bread will only cost 1 million US. Great idea.
JustTruth101 on December 7, 2012 at 1:41 PM
I’ll bet Mugabe had thought of this. If he had just minted coins and deposited them in a federal reserve bank and had the federal reserve bank subsequently print money, rather than just printing the money himself, there would have been no economic problem! Obviously, the addition of that middle man is key!
besser tot als rot on December 7, 2012 at 1:43 PM
The only smart savings: guns, ammo, and food.
besser tot als rot on December 7, 2012 at 1:44 PM
Also, this isn’t a whole lot different from what the Fed is already doing with QE. It just further exposes the charade.
besser tot als rot on December 7, 2012 at 1:46 PM
Just for perspective: An ‘honest’ trillion dollar platinum coin at current market value would weigh over 52,000 pounds
LegendHasIt on December 7, 2012 at 1:48 PM
Why not make it $100 Trillion? Then we’d wipe out the national debt and be able to pay for our entitlement programs.
I think it might cause a wee bit of inflation, however.
Who’s face should be on it? Obama, Bernanke, Geithner?
zmdavid on December 7, 2012 at 1:52 PM
I’m not sure it exposes it any further. It does make it more ludicrous and more worthy of mockery, however!
GWB on December 7, 2012 at 1:52 PM
Hell, let’s just go whole hog and add 3 zeros to all of our currency. I just hope that anyone earning $500 dollars a week isn’t too surprised when they are paid 50 cents on their next paycheck.
NotCoach on December 7, 2012 at 1:59 PM
True, but it’s also the same as borrowing trillions of dollars, never paying it off but instead rolling it over and folding interest into new debt. Which is what we’ve been doing for decades – unrelenting credit expansion.
Sovereign money is not a bad idea. It is only inflationary if the production of currency exceeds the growth in GDP. If GDP grew 4% then the federal government could, theoretically, emit $600 Billion in new currency instead of borrowing it. If a 2% inflation rate was targeted, then we could spend $900 Billion in new sovereign currency that year.
As it is, the Federal reserve emits more than that in unbacked currency each year for the federal government to borrow at very low interest, and remits that interest back to the US Treasury. So we’re kinda printing anyway. But if the federal government issued currency directly instead of borrowing from the Fed then that leaves the Fed, facing continued credit contraction, a net currency extractor.
Last year the Fed printed $800 Billion for the federal government to borrow. If the government issued that money directly as sovereign money then the Federal reserve would have issued $800 Billion less in banknotes. The amount of inflation would be the same. However, if the federal government was Constitutionally restricted to issuing money not to exceed economic growth AND prohibited from borrowing (except the sale of war bonds) inflation would be in check and Bucky would be saved.
shuzilla on December 7, 2012 at 2:15 PM
Interesting exercise.
Platinum costs ~$1600/ounce.
Minting a genuine $1T coin would require how many ounces of platinum?
Terp Mole on December 7, 2012 at 2:19 PM
Q: How many wind mills are required to smelt a carbon-neutral $1T platinum coin?
A: None if they’re powered by unicorn.
Terp Mole on December 7, 2012 at 2:25 PM
In the genius Neal Stephenson novel Snow Crash, one of the principal characters is on a narcotics sting, and the druggies gathered around the scene are laughing at her for trying to buy Snow Crash at a price of 1.5 quadrillion dollars, using trillion-dollar bills instead of “Gippers”.
To think, 20 years ago, the trillion-dollar bill was absurdist satire of hyper-inflation.
The Schaef on December 7, 2012 at 2:30 PM
Since South Africa contains 80% of proven platinum reserves, will Uncle Mandela cover our Chinese debt default?
Terp Mole on December 7, 2012 at 2:32 PM
See a few posts above.
Multiply by 12.
(not 16; there are 12 troy ounces in a Troy pound, which is how Precious metals are weighed)
LegendHasIt on December 7, 2012 at 2:34 PM
We all know whose portrait should be on those coins.
Or should Obama hold out for the quadrillion-dollar coins?
theCork on December 7, 2012 at 2:55 PM
More shiny (and worthless) objects from Obama and the Dems.
Bitter Clinger on December 7, 2012 at 3:01 PM
At least they already have the portrait for it.
NotCoach on December 7, 2012 at 3:02 PM