You’re right that most people who go against the market individually will have a hard time being competitive. That’s why we need regulation and collective bargaining, to level the playing field.

Alpha_Male on November 30, 2012 at 5:09 PM

No. Government intrusion into the market has caused every problem we face today.

Businesses must succeed or fail on their own.

One more thing … regulation creates corruption. When the government has power over someone or something it becomes corruptible. The less regulation the better, the less corruption. That’s why the founders gave the federal government extremely limited and narrow powers. Of course the democrats took that safeguard away .

But even if they are, people who can’t afford to run their business ethically should fail. There many millions of business owners who can.

Alpha_Male on November 30, 2012 at 5:06 PM

I’m getting a little tired trying to wake up your common sense and brain. Maybe you don’t have either. Minimum wage for unskilled labor is ethical because it’s the law.

Secondly, you apparently have no comprehension of the simplest math.

Thirdly, people don’t go into business to provide a living for people. That’s their responsibility, not the business owner. When you hire someone you’re paying for a service. The more demanding the service the more you pay. That’s why lawyers get $200 and hour and flipping burgers gets minimum wage.

Lastly, virtually all business costs are passed onto the consumer. This applies to every business. Every tax, every wage increase, every new regulation, every new union demand that makes the cost of doing business more expensive gets passed onto the consumer which is mainly low income and middle class. This is what you liberals simply don’t get. All your policies hurt the very people you supposedly champion.

darwin on November 30, 2012 at 5:04 PM

You’re right that most people who go against the market individually will have a hard time being competitive. That’s why we need regulation and collective bargaining, to level the playing field.

Of course. But I’m also willing to see fewer corporate jets and lavish mansions, and less idle money hoarded in tax shelters.

Alpha_Male on November 30, 2012 at 4:54 PM

You understand nothing is stopping you from purchasing a McDonalds franchise and paying employees as much as you want. You’re also free not to collect a salary. I don’t know how long you’ll stay in business, but hey, who knows? Give it a shot. I’d work the numbers out first before you dive in though.

Of course. But I’m also willing to see fewer corporate jets and lavish mansions, and less idle money hoarded in tax shelters.

Alpha_Male on November 30, 2012 at 4:54 PM

You’re willing to see people lose their jobs?

Look, we’re talking about McDonalds, not Micrsoft. It’s mostly unskilled labor and these are … as I said before franchises … they’re usually owned individually by people who take a risk and take out loans. They don’t live in mansions or fly private jets.

darwin on November 30, 2012 at 4:49 PM

Of course. But I’m also willing to see fewer corporate jets and lavish mansions, and less idle money hoarded in tax shelters.

A lot of cotton plantations failed after slavery was abolished. No doubt this put upward price pressure on consumer goods. I don’t mourn the suffering of the plantation owners who lost their cheap labor or the consumers who lost their cheap goods.

Alpha_Male on November 30, 2012 at 4:45 PM

As long as you’re willing to pay higher prices and see some people lose their jobs that’s fine.

landlines on November 30, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Shack! (That means a direct hit in bomb-droppin’ lingo.)