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Conservative blogger poll: Who should the GOP nominate in 2016?
3) If the list were narrowed down to the following 10 candidates, then which one would you **** LEAST LIKE **** to see as our 2016 nominee?
1) Chris Christie (NJ Governor) 32.5% (25 votes)
2) Jeb Bush (Former Fl Governor) 26% (20 votes)
3) Rand Paul (KY Senator) 14.3% (11 votes)
4) Scott Walker (WI Governor) 11.7% (9 votes)
5) Paul Ryan (WI Congressman. VP candidate) 5.2% (4 votes)
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Truth=trolling?
Why would Palin be able to overcome massive negative messaging? Does she have some superpower I’m unaware of?
Every candidate we have is going to be carpet bombed, so we’re already starting in the hole, no reason to dig a deeper one with a Palin candidacy.
John_Locke on November 26, 2012 at 3:52 PM
I’m old enough to remember the MSM (and that’s all there was at the time) absolutely savaging Reagan, to the point where they in all seriousness stated we’d all die in nuclear fire if he was elected.
We all know where that led.
Rebar on November 26, 2012 at 3:53 PM
So, in other words, you’re OK with the media destroying someone whose only crime was accepting the nomination for VP? If you Palin detractors would spend half as much time supporting her efforts as you do putting her down, she’d have a chance in rebuilding her brand. Instead, people like you would rather complain about twenty minutes of a 6.5 hour interview or the fact that she chose to resign rather than go bankrupt. Tell me anyone who has had her/his words so tightly scrutinized as Palin. Tell me anyone who has ever been trashed the way Palin has. There isn’t anyone and by buying into the “Palin is unqualified” myth, you’ve sent the message to the media that their strategy works.
NoNails on November 26, 2012 at 3:54 PM
True, I would much prefer a Palin presidency to a Clinton part II, or even Obama’s current term, for that matter.
However, a party that’s going to nominate suicide isn’t going to win anyway. Palin is very good at firing up the base, her work for tea party candidates has been fantastic, and she should continue in that realm. She’s certainly done more for the party than Romney ever did; but I sincerely doubt that putting her name on the ticket is going to win anything for us.
John_Locke on November 26, 2012 at 3:56 PM
McCain. Romney.
This is the same party.
faraway on November 26, 2012 at 3:58 PM
The only cultish behavior I see are those lighting candles at the alter of Romney.
portlandon on November 26, 2012 at 3:59 PM
I’ll defer to an old timer’s wisdom, but I’ll just point out that I grew up under ridiculous amounts of indoctrination, and I’m thoroughly convinced that it has worked on most people my age.
But if you think she can beat past all of that, vote for her, that’s why we have elections. If she’s nominated I’ll vote for her, but I’m going to look hard for an alternative during the primaries (assuming she runs).
John_Locke on November 26, 2012 at 4:00 PM
PALIN 2016 – but, she must run as an independent. 2016 will be the year of the third party candidate, and that candidate must be Sarah Palin – she is one of us.
Pork-Chop on November 26, 2012 at 4:01 PM
The electorate has proven the media’s strategy works. Unless and until we take back media and culture (which will take quite a while) we need to recognize the power the media has to influence elections. I don’t like it, and I think it’s unethical, but realistically what are we going to change about that in the next four years?
John_Locke on November 26, 2012 at 4:02 PM
A Romney cult of personality is no less disturbing to me, but I highly doubt the dedication to Romney will continue now that the election is over. Sarah Palin is treated like the second coming of political Jesus and I’m uncomfortable with it.
No one person is going to fix our problems. Reagan was a great president, but he (and conservatives at large) failed to produce a lasting change because their work was mostly top-down. Unless we can produce a cultural change to sweep conservatives into office, our current structure will produce one-offs every few years.
John_Locke on November 26, 2012 at 4:06 PM
I get why Christie and Bush are the top two this list.
Christie is a disgusting Obama lapdog liberal, while Jeb Bush is just the latest installment in the family that destroyed the conservative movement for a generation. Both men totally disgust me and I would leave the GOP for good if either was nominatied.
But Rand Paul & Scott Walker?? What on earth have they done to deserve a mention on a conservative blogger “least wanted” list??
Norwegian on November 26, 2012 at 4:09 PM
No kidding. They are probably my top two most wanted. I would like to know who the 20 clowns who voted for them are.
besser tot als rot on November 26, 2012 at 4:16 PM
I could see Paul as a ‘no dynasties please’ choice, but Scott Walker makes no sense whatsoever. Conservative rockstar union breaking in a blue state? Yes please.
John_Locke on November 26, 2012 at 4:16 PM
John_Locke on November 26, 2012 at 4:06 PM
Were you alive when Reagan was President?
kingsjester on November 26, 2012 at 4:17 PM
Then you aren’t paying attention. The hardcore Romney fanatics have been unrelenting here lately.
Every politician is going to have a hardcore base. They can do no wrong, or are the second coming of Reagan, or whatever.
Palin is no different.
Go to NRO, or Frum Forum and you can replace the name Palin with Romney and it’s the same.
portlandon on November 26, 2012 at 4:17 PM
Sarah Palin/Rand Paul 2016, either order.
hell no: Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, Bobby Jindal Paul Ryan, Jeb Bush
sauldalinsky on November 26, 2012 at 4:17 PM
Whoever supports securing the border now, undermining Obamacare with every trick in the legal book, and ending the idiotic nation building follies for Sharia-Loving Islamic states will get my vote.
That leaves out Christie, Bush, Walker and Ryan.
profitsbeard on November 26, 2012 at 4:18 PM
Looking at the results, there’s a fair mix of clueless guys among the blogosphere. At least they nailed the idea that Chris Christie is not their friend.
Stoic Patriot on November 26, 2012 at 4:24 PM
Just barely. My point is that there’s been no major realignment. The closest we had was the Contract with America, but we aren’t influencing institutions in any meaningful way. Until we start to take back education and have some impact on culture, we’re going to be SOL.
I grew up in the aftermath of liberals controlling every institution, and it’s only getting worse. I grew up in a conservative home and feel like I reasoned out my own beliefs fairly early on, but even still, I remember times where my default assumptions were very liberal and I just didn’t know the difference given the absence of any meaningful confrontation to those assumptions.
On the whole, conservative thought has to be sought out, whereas liberal ‘thought’ is ubiquitous.
John_Locke on November 26, 2012 at 4:27 PM
Are you old enough to remember the MSM savaging Goldwater?
Mister Mets on November 26, 2012 at 4:28 PM
Looking at the fact that they can’t even seem to get their states right, clueless is definitely the right description.
John_Locke on November 26, 2012 at 4:29 PM
On the whole, conservative thought has to be sought out, whereas liberal ‘thought’ is ubiquitous.
John_Locke on November 26, 2012 at 4:27 PM
If by referring to Liberal thought, you mean widespread propaganda, yes, it is, thanks to the MSM. However, Conservative thought is readily available through the New Media.
I was just a little over 21 when Reagan was elected, and he made a great deal of difference. His trickle-down economics was what was needed, in order to generate jobs.
If the GOP turns its back on Reagan (Social) Conservatives, they will not win another election…period.
Conservative Ideology did not lose this presidential election.
Poor communication of it, did.
kingsjester on November 26, 2012 at 4:34 PM
I agree 100%, I’m just very doubtful of our ability to communicate it. Primarily because the low info voter is very likely going to vote Democrat because of the cultural morass of liberalism.
We need to make cultural inroads or we’re screwed.
Also, I don’t mean to undermine Reagan’s accomplishments, only that his victory does not appear to have produced a lasting cultural change.
John_Locke on November 26, 2012 at 4:37 PM
Why would Palin be able to overcome massive negative messaging? Does she have some superpower I’m unaware of?
Every candidate we have is going to be carpet bombed, so we’re already starting in the hole, no reason to dig a deeper one with a Palin candidacy.
John_Locke on November 26, 2012 at 3:52 PM
Jesus H. Christ, here we go again.
yeah, she’s got that ol massive negativity going docha know.
To quote Kelley’s Heroes.
“there you go again Moriarty, with those NEGATIVE WAVES”
Here’s a novel thought for you to mull over.
She’s been hammered relentlessly by the press for years.
Does not seem to affect her, and the country knows who she
is. Maybe, just maybe, with her 24,000 emails that the
public would see all over again IF she ran, she would be
that much ahead of the curve on your Carpet bombing scenario??
Naw,I knew that would be too much for you or any other
Foaming at the mouth Anti-Palinoid to fathom….
Carry on.
ToddPA on November 26, 2012 at 4:41 PM
To My Knowledge, the New Media isn’t delivered to everyone’s living room at 6:00 PM Monday thru Firday, and during Prime Time 8:00 pm to 11:00 pm Monday thru Sunday – as well as peppering Sports Broadcasts and Movies.
You have to go on line and find it. As in Seeking It Out!
jaydee_007 on November 26, 2012 at 4:42 PM
Exactly. Most people aren’t going to expend the energy.
John_Locke on November 26, 2012 at 4:46 PM
Essentially, Sarah doesn’t have a superpower, but what she does have is something McCain, Romney, and Even Bush lacked. That is an abiding beleif in what she stand for <em>(which she actually stands for before she starts campaigning) and the desire to actually Answer her critics. (Not play some above the fray game and hope people will ‘see through it’ nonsense attitude.)
jaydee_007 on November 26, 2012 at 4:46 PM
You have to go on line and find it. As in Seeking It Out!
jaydee_007 on November 26, 2012 at 4:42 PM
You have to watch TV or Movies, as well.
There is a reason Air America, Newsweek, and numerous newspapers have gone under. Liberal propaganda eventually wears very thin.
kingsjester on November 26, 2012 at 4:47 PM
She only needs 50% + 1, not 100%. She starts out with about 45% and only needs 5% more.
huckleberryfriend on November 26, 2012 at 4:50 PM
Essentially, Sarah doesn’t have a superpower, but what she does have is something McCain, Romney, and Even Bush lacked. That is an abiding beleif in what she stand for (which she actually stands for before she starts campaigning) and the desire to actually Answer her critics. (Not play some above the fray game and hope people will ‘see through it’ nonsense attitude.)
jaydee_007 on November 26, 2012 at 4:46 PM
GAME, SET, MATCH.
It cracks me up to see these Conservative Blogger polls.
What an effing joke! Gee, wasn’t it just a few weeks ago, that
all these so called Polls were telling us Romney was going to win??
I sincerely hope this woman runs, she ACTUALLY stands for something.
ToddPA on November 26, 2012 at 4:51 PM
The same way the rest of the party overcomes it: go out into the world and campaign. She’s actually really good at campaigning. She has the rare ability to connect with ordinary people. It’s a skill Romney peculiarly lacked, and was why he was unable to change enough voters’ minds. It’s why the Dems were so very, very afraid of her. Watch her at any public event, and the way the crowd responds to her. She’s Elvis. It’s really unusual in the GOP, and a gift we as a party would be wise to embrace. Instead we kvetch about her and how dare she bring a dose of celebrity to the GOP, we want to be the party of boring competence, etc etc. Stupid. Let her shine; or for those of you who have no faith, let her fall on her face. Either way it solves the impasse.
alwaysfiredup on November 26, 2012 at 4:52 PM
Starting with a 50+1 approach is part of our problem and demonstrates that we are incredibly constrained due to a massive cultural deficit against liberals.
I don’t think you can get the other 5-6% due to the cultural deficit we’re facing.
John_Locke on November 26, 2012 at 4:52 PM
Oh well, another hot air thread hijacked by Palin
Redford on November 26, 2012 at 4:53 PM
Sarah Palin is better equipped than most to change the cultural deficit. It requires a dash of razzle-dazzle. Most Republicans lack razzle-dazzle.
alwaysfiredup on November 26, 2012 at 4:55 PM
The title was begging for it.
alwaysfiredup on November 26, 2012 at 4:56 PM
Oh well, another hot air thread hijacked by Palin
Redford on November 26, 2012 at 4:53 PM
Naw, we still have a few RomneyBots pizzing and moaning…..
other than that this thread is FINE!
ToddPA on November 26, 2012 at 5:04 PM
The conservative bloggers have Jungle feevah, and the only fix is a Latino. Just remember that blood is thicker than
water“self deportators”.Can.I.be.in.the.middle on November 26, 2012 at 5:06 PM
F THAT!
ROMNEY/PALIN 2016!!!
Can.I.be.in.the.middle on November 26, 2012 at 5:07 PM
Clueless. As usual.
alwaysfiredup on November 26, 2012 at 5:08 PM
Marco Rubio is the GOP’s version of Obama. Of course, Obama won two terms, so you can’t completely disagree. It’s just interesting to see conservatives supporting an unqualified, identity-politics candidate.
As for the well-qualified, fully vetted Sarah Palin… She’s my first choice, but I think she might be planning to follow in Breitbart’s footsteps, making a difference without a title.
Palin did a great job as Gov. of AL, though. Everyone should read Sarah Takes On Big Earl, about her efforts to break up a monopoly and make moonshine available statewide.
Mr. Wednesday Night on November 26, 2012 at 5:13 PM
Rubio-No
Paul-Yes
Walker-Yes
Jindal-Maybe
Ryan-No
Bush-Heck no
Palin-Yes
Pence-Yes
Martinez-Yes
Christie-Heck no
Cruz-Maybe
Perry-No
Huckabee-No way
Daniels-No
Rice-No
Santorum-No
Haley-Maybe
McDonnell-No
Brewer-Maybe
Cantor-No
Portman-No
Sandoval-No idea
topdawg on November 26, 2012 at 5:33 PM
Can’t happen unless one of them moves. I remember back in 2000, Cheney had to move to WY to qualify as the VP because of some obscure thing that the entire ticket can’t come from the same state.
karenhasfreedom on November 26, 2012 at 5:47 PM
Whoops, what I meant to copy and paste was someone’s post about Bush/Rubio. Dunno what happened here, must use preview!!! Sorry.
karenhasfreedom on November 26, 2012 at 5:48 PM
I see the usual PDS crowd is out in force, pushing the negative story lines, which are creatures of fiction.
The reality is that Sarah Palin is able to attract fervent support and would be a formidable candidate.
Exclusive: Klenman on Sarah Palin and the Republican Establishment™
In 2012, the Republican Party establishment got their candidate. Fine man. Lousy politician. Pat Caddell pointed out the campaign flaws in a speech that he recently gave at Restoration weekend:
Pat Caddell at Restoration Weekend
(Side note: I don’t agree with his analysis about the VP Pick, but much of his analysis makes sense.)
See also this analysis by Richard Viguerie:
10 Reasons Why Obama Won And Romney Lost — A Two Part Series
10 Reasons Why Romney Lost And Obama Won — A Two Part Series
The simple reality is that after the 2004 re-election of George W. Bush, he refused to change course and become a champion of limited constitutional Government. Ever since the Republican party has been shedding voters.
These voters came back in 2010, in response to the TEA Party movement message as championed by Sarah Palin (among others), giving Republican huge victories in State elections, as well as a smashing victory in the House.
Unfortunately, in 2011 and 2012, the national Republican party squandered these gains. Notwithstanding the pervasive disdain towards the President, the chosen flag bearer was sadly not able to generate the required level of support to win.
An Orthodox Rabbi’s View: This Election Was NOT About the Economy, Stupid!
john.frank on November 26, 2012 at 6:04 PM
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