You’re still in the denial stage – I’m at acceptance. What do I propose? I propose that the GOP stop pretending that it has the will or power to be a force for freedom in this country.

besser tot als rot on November 26, 2012 at 2:11 PM

So what does that mean? Out the other side of your mouth you say we should retrench and try to force the conservative/freedom agenda on them.

When someone is denied a life-saving procedure because they are too old, young and it’s too expensive, I would think the cry for repeal will be loud and sustained.

Death and misery are not the same as a Social Security check.

Rixon on November 26, 2012 at 1:36 PM

They will blame the doctors or hospitals, not the government.

The public likes stuff, and the gov’t likes taxes. Neither are willing to give them up.

They should have move[d] to impeach Justice Roberts and remove him from the SCOTUS

profitsbeard on November 26, 2012 at 2:25 PM

We can’t do that. Roberts votes with us on the issues of minimal consequence while completely selling us out on the fundamental questions of individual freedom. So we just have to keep him!

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besser tot als rot on November 26, 2012 at 2:34 PM

I was thinking of his proven judicial incompetence for calling Obamacare a “tax” -which would required, legally, that the Court could not rule on the matter since it would first have to be implemented as a tax, and then have someone protest it in the legal system, getting it back the SCOTUS for a proper review and decision.

Roberts is a self-demonstrated legal incompetent and his ruling was judicially illegitimate.

Impeachment should have begun the same day.

Our gelded GOP are are gutless as a disemboweled Mohammad in Dante’s Inferno.

But that hasn’t worked on any other gov’t program to date.

The government has never met a problem it couldn’t make worse.

And some in the party concede that taking a government benefit away from people is extremely difficult.

Assuming that it’s a net benefit. If this POS is as destructive as economists have forecast, the country will be begging for its repeal by mid-2014. I say let it happen. If we’re wrong and it’s a raging success (highly unlikely) well, the political class is already calling us idiots so no harm done. If we’re right and it’s something close to an economic apocalypse, shove their noses into it. Either way, they own it.

We can say “repeal Obamacare or face the fiscal cliff” and Democrats will gladly walk away, rail against us for across the board tax increases (that they privately love, love love), press helps convince the gullible morons it’s our fault. We lose the House and perhaps our filibuster leverage, leaving us completely exposed to 2 final years of Obama with nothing to lose and nothing to stop him.

The Count

So, basically, what you’re saying is we should refuse to fight and give the dems what they want, otherwise we’ll lose in the next election and they’ll be able to get what they want. Hmmmm, tough one.

They should have move to impeach Justice Roberts and remove him from the SCOTUS

profitsbeard on November 26, 2012 at 2:25 PM

We can’t do that. Roberts votes with us on the issues of minimal consequence while completely selling us out on the fundamental questions of individual freedom. So we just have to keep him!

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Was that addressed to Boehner or the electorate that reelected Obama and kept the Democratic senatorial majority intact?

apostic on November 26, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Yes.