“Women aren’t women anymore”
But what if the dearth of good men, and ongoing battle of the sexes, is – hold on to your seats – women’s fault?
You’ll never hear that in the media. All the articles and books (and television programs, for that matter) put women front and center, while men and children sit in the back seat. But after decades of browbeating the American male, men are tired. Tired of being told there’s something fundamentally wrong with them. Tired of being told that if women aren’t happy, it’s men’s fault.
Contrary to what feminists like Hanna Rosin, author of The End of Men, say, the so-called rise of women has not threatened men. It has pissed them off. It has also undermined their ability to become self-sufficient in the hopes of someday supporting a family. Men want to love women, not compete with them. They want to provide for and protect their families – it’s in their DNA. But modern women won’t let them.
It’s all so unfortunate – for women, not men. Feminism serves men very well: they can have sex at hello and even live with their girlfriends with no responsibilities whatsoever.
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I spent my younger years working to become stable enough for a family. Once I got it, I looked, and a few years later found it. Then my country became unstable!
I should not have waited so long, but of course my wife being 17 years younger, I guess I HAD to wait. But the moral of my above statement is this. Unless you are really in hardship, there is no such thing as a stable future looking situation in order to start a family. If you follow that line, then we will be a nation with fewer and fewer children.
astonerii on November 25, 2012 at 10:24 PM
You are full of stereotypes, mostly negative ones. Are you aware of this? You remind of atheists as they obliviously and condescendingly use their ridiculous sweeping generalizations against the religious – I am rolling my eyes at most of what you are saying!
Good men who are strong and dominant realize the value and necessity of a cooperative spirit with their wives – they understand that submissiveness goes both ways, but also that each gender has roles that the other cannot properly fulfill. gophergirl understands this in a way that you do not, and therefore she is much more appealing to someone like me than you are, because not only does she come off as someone who wouldn’t be difficult to deal with, she doesn’t come off as someone who has unresolved issues with submission and independence.
No offense intended, but I see you as someone who is rather immature, and rebellious against reality, and you do not come off as sexy or fun!
Anti-Control on November 25, 2012 at 10:25 PM
astonerii on November 25, 2012 at 10:08 PM
My son is also an old school gentleman. Like his mom, dad, and stepdad he beleives that a marriage is not one person ‘obeying’ the other. That’s not marriage-it’s slavery.
annoyinglittletwerp on November 25, 2012 at 10:27 PM
Anti-Control on November 25, 2012 at 10:25 PM
My husband and I have been happily married for 10 years. To each their own.
annoyinglittletwerp on November 25, 2012 at 10:30 PM
Explain the situation where neither of you can agree on something critical. How do you make the decision.
As an example. You child falls down a flight of stairs and is unconscious. You need to get the child medical care. Between you and your husband He is determined he is going to immediately drive the child to the hospital that is a mile or two down the road in your car. You want to call 911 and have an ambulance sent.
Now, neither of you is willing to use the other’s idea. Tell me how it gets settled! You have 10 seconds to decide before the life expectancy of your child starts going south.
astonerii on November 25, 2012 at 10:33 PM
Fair point. Maybe searching Ukraine is the answer after all. Or maybe I just need to get the f out of New York. Quite possibly both. I know I’m continuing to study Russian either way…
Gingotts on November 25, 2012 at 10:37 PM
astonerii on November 25, 2012 at 10:33 PM
I agree with the driving part-so your hypothetical doesn’t work.
annoyinglittletwerp on November 25, 2012 at 10:37 PM
Nice things with hypotheticals, is that they are hypothetical.
In that case, he chooses 911 and you demand the car ride.
Or another choice would be the choice between two hospitals. One is higher quality, but further away.
The thing is, there are situations in life where one thing has to be decided and two people might not be able to come to an amicable decision. Your decision to argue you are both in charge destroys your ability to deal with them.
astonerii on November 25, 2012 at 10:40 PM
Sorta odd how as I read this thread and lament the sad changes toward femininity and sexual mores that have plagued these times, the TV is playing the episode of Seinfeld showing the stark difference of Jane Leeves “The Virgin” and the shameless and obnoxious Elaine Benes discussing her errant diaphragm.
Gingotts on November 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM
Dancing is such an important metaphor. If the woman leads and the man follows, the dance can work, but it will go backward. If the woman simply insists on not following the man’s lead, then you can’t dance at all. Been there.
GWB on November 25, 2012 at 11:07 PM
i.e. you are demonstrating the need for a chain of command. How many wolf packs are led by alpha females?
Women who want to be complete co-equals with whichever men they are with don’t understand masculinity, (nor femininity, for that matter) and don’t understand that men who cannot properly assert themselves with women are mama’s boy who have not fully grown up yet. It’s simple – real men don’t have the desire to breastfeed their children, and real women don’t want to be in the position of having to protect their men as though they are their little boys.
Anti-Control on November 25, 2012 at 11:08 PM
Since some have already tossed out the misogynist charge, I might as well quote Jayne:
GWB on November 26, 2012 at 12:15 AM
lol
What so many of those who prematurely throw out the “misogynist” charge fail to understand is the difference between “dominance” and “domineering” – parents naturally are dominant over their children, but good parents realize that they should respect their kids as individuals, and they refrain from exerting excessive control over them.
Smart spouses, who have a clear understanding of the different role of the sexes, don’t want to be in master-slave relationships, and to proclaim that wives who choose to be “obedient” do want that kind of dynamic only serves to reveal the same lack of insight that atheists and leftists have about the respective psychologies of religious persons and Conservatives – those unknowledgable accusers beclown themselves by their arrogance w/o realizing it!
Anti-Control on November 26, 2012 at 1:06 AM
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