“Women aren’t women anymore”
But what if the dearth of good men, and ongoing battle of the sexes, is – hold on to your seats – women’s fault?
You’ll never hear that in the media. All the articles and books (and television programs, for that matter) put women front and center, while men and children sit in the back seat. But after decades of browbeating the American male, men are tired. Tired of being told there’s something fundamentally wrong with them. Tired of being told that if women aren’t happy, it’s men’s fault.
Contrary to what feminists like Hanna Rosin, author of The End of Men, say, the so-called rise of women has not threatened men. It has pissed them off. It has also undermined their ability to become self-sufficient in the hopes of someday supporting a family. Men want to love women, not compete with them. They want to provide for and protect their families – it’s in their DNA. But modern women won’t let them.
It’s all so unfortunate – for women, not men. Feminism serves men very well: they can have sex at hello and even live with their girlfriends with no responsibilities whatsoever.
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If momma ain’t happy …
OldEnglish on November 25, 2012 at 6:55 PM
Poor menz. Heads – she wins, tails – he loses.
tommy71 on November 25, 2012 at 7:04 PM
Surprise!
Human Nature didn’t change during the 60′s.
Just the set of norms laid out for society.
jaydee_007 on November 25, 2012 at 7:04 PM
Spot on.
Beaglemom on November 25, 2012 at 7:05 PM
Again the old saying “Why buy the cow when you can have the milk for free?” …
viking01 on November 25, 2012 at 7:09 PM
Yes. I’ve seen this over and over again as a pastor.
When women fill the roles men traditionally filled, men leave the scene.
Scribbler on November 25, 2012 at 7:10 PM
Thanks to feminism, lots of children wish they were in the back seat…instead of the abortion mill’s dumpster.
itsnotaboutme on November 25, 2012 at 7:12 PM
You wanted it, libs.
I DESPISE most of the women who complain about the fact that there are ‘no good men’ out there. Women don’t WANT a good man. The honest, loving, caring, protecting, providing man is a joke to most women. They want the bad boy who treats them just well enough to not be abusive. They want a man to pay for everything they want.
Women actively discourage the ‘nice guys’ and berate them whenever given an opportunity. Now that guys have adapted to the new environment, women are complaining. From the ages of 16 until about 28, women want the bad boy/rich boy. Around 28, they realize that they want a real, stable, smart, protector/provider-type.
The problem – they spent their entire dating life teaching those exact men that women want nothing to do with them.
Anecdote: When I was living in upstate New York, I held the door open for a woman who was coming into a store behind me. She stared me dead in the face and said, “What, you don’t think I can open my own f*#@*#%g door?”
Fine. Lesson learned. You don’t get to complain though, when I treat you precisely how you demand to be treated.
Washington Nearsider on November 25, 2012 at 7:12 PM
If you expect nothing much that’s what you get.
profitsbeard on November 25, 2012 at 7:14 PM
Let me test it:
HELLO!
………
Nope…wife is still sitting on the couch…
ProfShadow on November 25, 2012 at 7:16 PM
I just went out of country to find the woman I love. Any woman in America that would have been worth marrying had already long been married by the time she would have been in my age group.
astonerii on November 25, 2012 at 7:18 PM
If some rude be-ach were to question my politely opening a door for her constituted an expectation she couldn’t open it herself…
my reply would be “Correct.”
viking01 on November 25, 2012 at 7:18 PM
This. Marriage is a social conservative institution in what’s becoming a very socially liberal world. When you have easy access to sex, that most women have an incredible number of sex partners and the ramifications of divorce, it’s easy to see why marriage rates have plummeted in the last 10-20 years. It’s below 50% for people at 30 now.
IR-MN on November 25, 2012 at 7:18 PM
Why is Suzanne Venker writing articles and making money? She should go home, to the kitchen, make sammiches and allow her man to love her, because after all
Lead by example, let your man do just that.
lester on November 25, 2012 at 7:21 PM
:What must it be like to fight your way, struggling valiently with every step, only to find that when you have reached the top of the ladder, it’s been leaning against the Wrong Building?”
…Stephen Covey
jaydee_007 on November 25, 2012 at 7:22 PM
Did you even engage your brain when you read the article, or just look for an angle to nit pick.
If you actually read the article it’s not about Activity, it’s about Attitude.
jaydee_007 on November 25, 2012 at 7:25 PM
But once it finally hits the fan those remaining afterwards (if any) likely will return to concrete relationships necessary for survival. Sodom and Gomorrah, Nero’s Rome, even the Flapper era and post WW I Gatsbyesque wildness before reality hit not many years later, the Reagan years where many finally matured out of the Sixties and Disco… the phoenix has to burn to rise again.
viking01 on November 25, 2012 at 7:25 PM
This is why the dating pool is full of whimpy liberal men.
I would kill for an alpha male. They are very hard to find.
gophergirl on November 25, 2012 at 7:25 PM
Yep to all this. No guy likes a feminist, except gamma-male lefties. It’s that simple.
Gingotts on November 25, 2012 at 7:26 PM
Bingo..
melle1228 on November 25, 2012 at 7:27 PM
Whenever Losester leaves the adult theater the shock of daylight (and reality) always confuses and frightens him.
viking01 on November 25, 2012 at 7:28 PM
The key paragraph:
Exactly!!
Warner Todd Huston on November 25, 2012 at 7:28 PM
It’s more than that. Men don’t actually need much in their life if they don’t have a woman. Take a look at any bachelor. If the nice guys are left on their own for a decade or more, they aren’t going to bust their hump for something they don’t need. They give up on the idea of marriage because its a ridiculously one-sided deal, because the women aren’t worth marrying, and because they get used to being on their own.
That economic productivity is gone and will never be created. Calling them ‘Peter Pan’, and sneering at Xbox boys won’t change that. This reinforces their exclusion from the marriage market because they aren’t going to have the goodies needed to take care of a family in any case.
sharrukin on November 25, 2012 at 7:29 PM
Well, according to the democrat party, women aren’t women anymore. The democrat party tells us every day that women have “evolved” into inept, lazy, stupid, incapable, freeloading sluts who want FREE STUFF, don’t want to be “burdened” with children and require an ever-expanding government to meet their every need. AND, apparently, a majority of women agree, because they keep voting for democrats who will keep them in their NEW place.
Pork-Chop on November 25, 2012 at 7:38 PM
ok, this is how it goes, and I am probably showing my age.
When a girl is young, she wants Little Joe. The handsome boyfriend on the painted pony. She will marry when she gets wiser, Hoss. If she wants Ben (who has all the money) she is probably a golddigger. As for Adam, he leaves so he is not an option for a lifetime choice.
And we all want Hop Sing to handle the kitchen and the house.
And that my friends, is how real women think.
CrimsonFisted on November 25, 2012 at 7:42 PM
alpha maleness has nothing to do with sammiches or kitchens, Boy Blunder. I am more of an alpha male than some guys, and I’m not even male. If you can’t alpha me, you are beneath contempt. It has to do with being decisive, responsible, protective, polite, intelligent—many other things you will never be. Go hug your pillow and cry some more Loserboy.
Sekhmet on November 25, 2012 at 7:43 PM
I’ve learned to look at the vast majority of women as just men with tits. You take away the basic sex act and what is there that’s special about women now? Well…really nothing. They’re status and money motivated and angry, wound-up, competitors for resources. There’s no sense of “we’re in this together to build a family or a community.”
They’re basically the same as most guys to deal with. They’re often worse to deal with, actually, because of the whole smug men bad/women good, you-owe-me mentality. There’s not much to put on a pedestal there.
Django on November 25, 2012 at 7:44 PM
I’m often amused by leftists who, when it’s suggested that men be true to this aspect of their nature, immediately assume that it’s being suggested that the man simply wants to ruthlessly dominate his wife and relegate her to cooking and cleaning and raising the kids.
My wife is a stay-at-home mom. She’s got the sweetest gig in the world. She gets free food, a free car (insured for free), free gas, free healthcare, free clothes, free cosmetics, a free cell phone, free room and board, a 24/7/365 spider killer on call; if she breaks something, it gets fixed for free; if she loses something, it gets replaced for free. If she wants a vacation, all expenses are paid.
Did I mention that all this applies to her children as well?
And should she ever not feel like cooking or cleaning, she needs only ask, and it will be done for her.
I can’t imagine why any democrat woman wouldn’t want to be a stay-at-home mom.
CurtZHP on November 25, 2012 at 7:49 PM
That’s gonna leave a mark!
CurtZHP on November 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM
Ay-MEN. And a good many of the womben bawling about “Peter Pans” are either unattractive or immature themselves, or both. The cold hard truth is that for the average American male, heterosexual marriage is nigh-devoid of benefits in a culture where he can get laid almost anytime, anywhere.
And that’s not even taking no-fault divorce into account.
A comparison for N-FD: some people on here run their own businesses. Now what if I put forth a joint ‘investment’ with you where I could take you to court at any time and leave with your business, your bank account, your employees, plus a constant (likely ruinous) payment from you for years on end?
If you didn’t laugh yourself sick at such a proposal – pun intended – you’d throw me out the front door so hard I bounced. And when I called you ‘immature’ for doing so, your response would likely consist of an upraised finger and four-letter adjectives.
Want men to buy the cow? Quit giving out free milk to anything that walks upright and ostracize those who won’t as foolish tramps.
MelonCollie on November 25, 2012 at 7:53 PM
WOO HOO!
gophergirl on November 25, 2012 at 7:53 PM
Actually, modern Feminism serves ADOLESCENTS – of all ages and both sexes. Boys get a lot more sex partners, and girls get to play with pretty and arrogant studs that they wouldn’t touch with a ten foot pole if they ever stopped to think about all that icky lifetime partnership and childrearing stuff. It’s only when people get a little older that they realize: “Oops, I forgot to get a life!”
Everything about liberalism coincides with a state of perpetually arrested adolescence. And that is not a coincidence.
logis on November 25, 2012 at 7:54 PM
And an alpha would kill for you. That’s the upside.
The downside is that there just aren’t too many. Liberalism/feminism have – through life lessons – bred out the alphas.
Washington Nearsider on November 25, 2012 at 7:55 PM
CurtZHP on November 25, 2012 at 7:49 PM
You sir are Hoss! I married a Hoss too. Best men in the world. Not just spider killers but lizard catchers too where we live.
CrimsonFisted on November 25, 2012 at 7:57 PM
It all depends on what you value. A couple women I know are not Sandra Flukes by any measure; they simply refuse to have someone else provide everything for them.
My GF has expressly told me she doesn’t want me to do everything possible for her even though she’s partially disabled. For her that’s an issue of self-esteem coupled with her astounding determination, and I’ll have to learn to respect that.
MelonCollie on November 25, 2012 at 7:57 PM
All the ethinyl estradiol recycling through the water supply may have something to do with it… and I wish I were joking.
viking01 on November 25, 2012 at 8:00 PM
Thats pretty accurate imo.
Mimzey on November 25, 2012 at 8:00 PM
I was, of course, writing with tongue firmly planted in cheek. I happily provide all that because I regard myself as the most fortunate man alive to have her in my life. (Still can’t believe it!) That said, she’s no doormat. I may be the king, but it sure as sh-t is her castle!
CurtZHP on November 25, 2012 at 8:02 PM
Ding ding ding! The Flukey-ness of too many women is what probably turned me off before the entitled feminism. Though either are instant deal breakers for me.
Know what else bugs the crap out of me? Minor thing really, but just such a pet peeve. The women these days that don’t even take the surname of the man they marry. One family, one name. That feminist crap about “losing one’s identity” is just another roadblock that keeps couples from committing to each other entirely. New family, new identity, a hybrid of the old and new – this is something that should be embraced. I know enough of my buddies that marry that shift into a new, different more complete person even without the name change. Nobody is such a special flower that they can afford to distance themselves from all that and expect a lasting marriage.
Gingotts on November 25, 2012 at 8:05 PM
What a silly article. Women can be competitive and feminine. There is no reason why men can’t cope with that in the workplace or in relationships. There is plenty of variety among people of either sex and relationships aren’t all the same. Big deal.
lexhamfox on November 25, 2012 at 8:07 PM
And the 32 year old woman looking to get married is competing with her 22 year old self who is still hanging out in bars. A guy who that 32 year old wants, can easily get the 22 year old with no strings attached.
sharrukin on November 25, 2012 at 8:10 PM
What gets my wife’s goat is women who won’t say “obey” as part of the marriage vows. She did, voluntarily and gladly. She insisted on it and took great pleasure in telling her friends, if only to see the looks on their faces.
Seriously, why would anyone voluntarily obey someone else? It’s simple, really. Trust. You’re not going to willingly obey someone you don’t trust.
How does that make me feel? It scares me to death! I wouldn’t trust me any further than I could throw me! But her willingness to trust me compels me to be all the more trustworthy. As you suggested, marriage changes a guy. It’s supposed to change him for the better.
CurtZHP on November 25, 2012 at 8:10 PM
I assume you mean the proliferation of the double last-names. Yeah I’m disturbed by that too. Marriage is a time for making up your d@mn mind already on a lot of things and that’s one of them.
Personally I couldn’t care less which last name I have. We’re a long way from crossing that bridge, but there are so many other things to work out, whether my last initial is C or H is at the absolute bottom of my list of priorities.
MelonCollie on November 25, 2012 at 8:11 PM
I’ve learned to look at the vast majority of women as just men with breasts. You take away the basic sex act and what is there that’s special about women now? Well…really nothing. They’re status and money motivated and angry, wound-up, competitors for resources. There’s no sense of “we’re in this together to build a family or a community.”
They’re basically the same as most guys to deal with. They’re often worse to deal with, actually, because of the whole smug men bad/women good, you-owe-me mentality. There’s not much to put on a pedestal there.
Django on November 25, 2012 at 8:12 PM
Your milage may vary, but to me that word is a reference to the mentality where women WERE treated like property. Small children are supposed to ‘obey’. Cats and dogs are supposed to ‘obey’. Computers are supposed to ‘obey’.
Asking a grown woman to ‘obey’??? IMHO, disturbing.
MelonCollie on November 25, 2012 at 8:14 PM
I didn’t ask her to. That’s just it.
CurtZHP on November 25, 2012 at 8:18 PM
Ok, I see your point. If she just up and said it herself, that’s something else altogether.
MelonCollie on November 25, 2012 at 8:19 PM
You’ve obviously never owned a cat.
CurtZHP on November 25, 2012 at 8:19 PM
So men don’t want to marry women that act like men.
And young women actually need someone to tell them this?
lynncgb on November 25, 2012 at 8:19 PM
I just think that the unique unity that comes with creating a family should mean both partners involved (and any children that come from the union) should use the same name. Tradition in western society states that it is the husband’s name adopted by the wife. I haven’t heard a valid argument as to why it shouldn’t be that way that didn’t boil down to “oh noes evil patriarchy!!!1″
The practice of hyphenated names, or just plain refusal to change the name seems a lack of commitment. I’m even less inclined toward it by the fact that it’s encouraged by the feminist movement as part of the overall desire to destroy the traditions and foundations of our society. Break the traditions, break the sanctity of marriage and the family, and pave the way for Marxism and reliance on the state.
Gingotts on November 25, 2012 at 8:20 PM
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