“I think the age of the universe has zero to do with how our economy is going to grow”
GQ: How old do you think the Earth is?
Marco Rubio: I’m not a scientist, man. I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that’s a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States. I think the age of the universe has zero to do with how our economy is going to grow. I’m not a scientist. I don’t think I’m qualified to answer a question like that. At the end of the day, I think there are multiple theories out there on how the universe was created and I think this is a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all. I think parents should be able to teach their kids what their faith says, what science says. Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I’m not sure we’ll ever be able to answer that. It’s one of the great mysteries.
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How old is the Earth? Enlighten everyone.
Good Lt on November 19, 2012 at 3:07 PM
I have stated on this thread many times. You have either not been paying attention or you really are a pathetic excuse for an atheist that is about as dumb as Obama is benevolent aren’t you? No one knows how old the Earth is. There is no way to know. If you paid any attention to SCIENCE, your religion, you would know this. The age of the Earth as stated by science is a guess, based on the oldest appearing rock they have discovered to date on the solid surface of the planet. A planet that was once molten, and thus no rocks to date from for that period. A planet that has tectonic plates that are circulated back into the molten part of the core of the Earth and replaced by new molten rock that solidifies as it cools. Due to these things, there is no way to determine the age of the Earth.
Your argument that a person has to state it is 4.5 billion years old is moronic and a plea to authority and not to facts. Most authorities (people who actually live their life studying the Earth, including its age) are willing to tell you up front that there is no specifically known date at which the Earth was created, but just a guess based on the facts they have at hand an many, a very many assumptions needed to make that guess.
astonerii on November 19, 2012 at 3:14 PM
Yes, really it does.
Try to find oil operating under the assumption the earth is 6000 years old. No one in the oil exploration business does that. Anyone that tried would go quickly out of business.
farsighted on November 19, 2012 at 3:30 PM
False.
We know to within a few million years give or take what it is. And we know that the Bible is WRONG, which has also been known for hundreds and hundreds of years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html#CD
Good Lt on November 19, 2012 at 3:31 PM
That doesn’t mean we have no idea how old the Earth is. We have a very good idea, and lots of evidence to support why we think it’s around 4.5 billion years.
You have no argument or evidence to present here that suggests otherwise.
Good Lt on November 19, 2012 at 3:33 PM
Like I said, many assumptions made, and a complete lack of any perspective on your part make you a MORON.
It was 2 billion years old a while back. Then 4.2 billion for a while, then 4.3 then 4.5 and more recently 4.6. But these are all based upon rock formations which were not created until an assumed period of time after the fact of the Earth forming.
Again, assumptions made.
Many of the theories you see, start with assumptions, then are filled in to meet the assumptions. Right now, the assumptions are plethora. Before they were legion. Next century they may be many and a thousand years from now perhaps few.
You are stuck on stupid here idiot. You actually USE WIKI as a freaking resource!
astonerii on November 19, 2012 at 3:44 PM
More assumptions made. That they know the age of the other stars. That the Sun follows a known course.
So, that is not a law of nature, it is just a best guess? GASP, yet you know the age of the planet to within a few FEW million years… LOL. You say other people are irrational!
astonerii on November 19, 2012 at 3:46 PM
No, PH, you’re wrong. They do not meet the scientific criteria for life, as they cannot (without merging with the other) reproduce themselves, no matter how long they are given to mature. And, when they do meet the other and reproduce, they aren’t reproducing themselves, but a new being, to which they have contributed 1/2 the DNA instructions. Hence, a life begins at conception.
GWB on November 19, 2012 at 3:47 PM
That would be an assertion, not a statement of fact. And, it reinforces the impression of your arrogance in your own belief system. And, yes, it is a belief system, as it is not falsifiable. Ironically, if Christians (and Jews or Muslims or other believers in a still extant creator) are right, their viewpoint is falsifiable – they just have to ask the big guy with the beard (or that freaky dude with the four arms).
GWB on November 19, 2012 at 3:59 PM
Try to find an oil business caring what age the rocks are. It doesn’t matter. It matters whats in them. It’s not required you know the age at all to find oil.
Rocks on November 19, 2012 at 4:08 PM
What is your evidence that contradicts the scientific community on this point?
Please present it, and roll out the red carpet for your Nobel prize.
No, when it comes to the age of the Earth, the way the Bible depicts the world is categorically, factually incorrect. We know this because there is evidence that the Earth is on the order of 4.5 billion years old (not 6-10,000 years). There is no evidence suggesting otherwise.
Good Lt on November 19, 2012 at 4:12 PM
Do you get dizzy with that circular reasoning? There’s no convincing one so firm in his faith, so I’m out of here.
GWB on November 19, 2012 at 4:16 PM
LOL.
So it doesn’t matter to oil exploration companies if a possible oil bearing formation is 100 million years old or 133 years old?
Where did that 133 year number come form you ask? 100 million is to 4.5 billion as 133 is to 6000.
Name one successful oil exploration company that doesn’t care what the age of potential oil bearing geologic formations are? And verify this by showing me some documentation in which they state they would have no problem finding oil if they assumed the earth is 6000 years old. I’ll wait.
But until then I’m done with this nonsense.
farsighted on November 19, 2012 at 4:25 PM
And therein lies the reason you don’t ever answer this question. Because there is a non-zero chance that one of you retards is the one answering it.
Here is a big, big, BIG reason the right continues to lose elections:
Why can two sides of a question of BELIEF not let it go ? Whether or not someone can prove the age of the earth has no effect on someone’s belief in the Bible. Ok ? LET.IT.GO.
Oh, and those that DO believe ? You think your God is really keen on you going around picking fights with people over the age of the Earth ? Really ? LET.IT.GO.
Unbelievable. This question and the answers to it are not relevant to any public discussion. PERIOD.
deadrody on November 19, 2012 at 4:32 PM
Mind finding where I have argued that the Earth is young? Please, feel free to find that statement.
You are dead set on the argument the Earth is Precisely 4.5 billion years old with a +/- range of 70 million years.
You willing to kill yourself when scientist find that the Earth is older than say, I dunno, 4.8 billion years old? You are the ass wipe that said there was one and only ONE answer for the question of how old the Earth is. I never said that. I said when making statements about the age of the Earth, there are many assumptions, and thus no one KNOWS and can PROVE how old it is. They have ideas, guesses based on evidence, but no proof. It all depends on what new information becomes available.
astonerii on November 19, 2012 at 4:34 PM
Here is what loopy liberal commented on this topic on a friend’s facebook page:
Nary a shred of sanity to be found and all it takes it the media being allowed to ask an entirely irrelevant question. If this guy wants to vehemently oppose Marco Rubio on some legislative initiative fueled by his christian faith, great. But how about we let Rubio PROPOSE something for him to oppose rather than allowing the media to create a caricature of Rubio by which everything the man does can be lumped under the umbrella of nutjob creationist or some such idiocy. Do you NOT get that there is no correct answer to this question ? The only winning move is not to play.
deadrody on November 19, 2012 at 4:35 PM
Which is why Rubio should have curtly dismissed the question, giving no answer at all, and moved on.
Instead he tripped all over himself trying to formulate an answer that wouldn’t offend some of his constituency, making it appear he might actually consider a 6000 year old earth a serious possiblity.
I don’t know what he really believes, but there is no way no how anyone perceived to think the earth might be 6000 years old will ever get elected President of the US.
farsighted on November 19, 2012 at 4:41 PM
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