Poll: 54% identify as pro-choice, 38% as pro-life

Meanwhile the so called “pro-life” neanderthals kill another woman in Ireland:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2012/11/15/ireland-abortion-law-savita-halappanavar.html

lester on November 15, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Lies.

The woman went to the hospital to ask for an abortion. It was refused. “Her husband told the BBC the termination was refused because there was a foetal heartbeat.”

That meant the fetus was still alive, so she had not miscarried.

No one knows why she died, exactly. Reports are that she developed sepsis, which can occur following a miscarriage when not everything gets flushed out properly and the remnants rot inside of the woman until the infection spreads into the bloodstream.

If that is what happened, it is a separate medical issue that took place after the miscarriage, and could have been dealt with AFTER the baby died. There was no need to rush to kill the fetus.

Sepsis takes some time to set in, maybe a day or two. There are symptoms. It is lethal, but if you go to a hospital they pump your blood full of antibiotics and save you.

This happened to Lily Allen a few years ago and there is an article about it: http://articles.nydailynews.com/2010-11-08/entertainment/29441765_1_bloodstream-infection-lily-allen-miscarriage

Allen reportedly went to the hospital in an ambulance last Friday, just days after miscarrying at six months, with septicemia, according to the Daily Mail.

Note that she developed sepsis DAYS after the miscarriage.

The line being peddled by the anti-abortion types is that this woman presented with a live fetus and demanded it be killed, the hospital refused, and she more or less immediately died as a consequence. That’s garbage.

Here is the WIKI version of the story:

Halappanavar suffered a miscarriage when she was 17 weeks pregnant but an Irish hospital denied her an abortion because a fetal heartbeat was present, despite the fetus being declared nonviable. The fetal remains were eventually removed but too much time had passed. Halappanavar had suffered septicemia as a result of the miscarriage and her heart, kidneys, and liver had failed as a result of the blood poisoning.

1st of all a “nonviable” fetus is one which can’t survive on its own outside the womb. A nonviable fetus is simply one too young to be put into an incubator and survive a premature birth. Viability is usually reached somewhere like 23 weeks. So calling the fetus nonviable tells us nothing, it doesn’t mean the fetus was dying.

Once the fetus dies, there is plenty of time of the body to naturally flush it, or to remove it medically, before the corpse decomposes to the point of inducing sepsis. If there is any issue here, it is not that abortion laws killed this woman, it is that either she neglected to seek medical attention, or she sought it but the doctors neglected to act. That would be a typical medical malpractice case, not an indictment of the abortion law.

Sepsis can be reversed with IV antibiotics. It happens all the time. The only reason you die from it is if you show up at the hospital too late, or if the medical staff is negligent and doesn’t diagnose sepsis in time to treat it.

Either way, this is not a death caused by the abortion law. Either Savita Halappanavar is at fault for not seeking medical attention until it was too late, or her doctors were at fault for not identifying the problem and treating it in a timely fashion.

kaltes on November 15, 2012 at 5:24 PM