Why people shed tears of empathy: Evolution
It’s true that many mammals shed tears, especially in response to pain. Tears protect the eye by keeping it moist, and they contain antimicrobial proteins. But crying as an embodiment of empathy is, I maintain, unique to humans and has played an essential role in human evolution and the development of human cultures.
Within two days an infant can imitate sad and happy faces. If a newborn mammal does not cry out (typically, in the first few weeks of life, without tears) it is unlikely to get the attention it needs to survive. Around three to four months, the relationship between the human infant and its environment takes on a more organized communicative role, and tearful crying begins to serve interpersonal purposes: the search for comfort and pacification. As we get older, crying becomes a tool of our social repertory: grief and joy, shame and pride, fear and manipulation.
Tears are as universal (but less culturally contingent) as laughter, and tragedy is more complex than joy — an insight Tolstoy and many others have offered. But although we all cry, we do so in different ways.











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Bwahahahahahahahaha… why everything is everything: Evolution.
The Rogue Tomato on November 12, 2012 at 6:52 PM
Evolution is the only hoax I know of that’s even bigger than man-made Global Warming.
Axion on November 12, 2012 at 6:54 PM
All evo, all the time.
davidk on November 12, 2012 at 6:55 PM
Bingo.
Living4Him5534 on November 12, 2012 at 6:57 PM
There are plenty of mammals,dogs and monkeys/apes being some, who cry at when another part of their pack dies or is hurt. It’s a reflection of pain, not empathy.
Even people do not cry out of empathy. We cry because we are reminded of our own pain and cry for that, again. It’s a function of experience, not empathy.
Rocks on November 12, 2012 at 7:01 PM
No, everything is magic.
lester on November 12, 2012 at 7:02 PM
Yes for you evos everything is magic–and 12yo girls.
davidk on November 12, 2012 at 7:05 PM
I don’t do that. We Aspies are ice-cold, non-empathetic monsters. LoL
annoyinglittletwerp on November 12, 2012 at 7:06 PM
Yes, your magic religion told you 15 year olds marrying 12 year olds is sacred and admired. The R&R tattoo though was your own idea.
lester on November 12, 2012 at 7:09 PM
You’re such an ugly person. Weirdly in your online life and your real life nobody likes you.
CW on November 12, 2012 at 7:17 PM
http://www.conservativenewsandviews.com/2012/11/12/teaparty/america-they-want-it-let-them-own-it/
davidk on November 12, 2012 at 7:20 PM
Blonde 12-year-old girls, according to the wise old man in Love and Death.
The Rogue Tomato on November 12, 2012 at 7:24 PM
davidk on November 12, 2012 at 7:25 PM
Of course, the non-evolutionary explanation for this is biological function is (blank).
Good Lt on November 12, 2012 at 7:27 PM
http://creation.com/the-design-of-tears-an-example-of-irreducible-complexity
davidk on November 12, 2012 at 7:29 PM
WEll. Look what crawled out of the woodwork. The charming and delightful GOOD Lt.
Tell me, Good. What makes you “good?”
davidk on November 12, 2012 at 7:31 PM
But wait, there’s more:
davidk on November 12, 2012 at 7:35 PM
davidk on November 12, 2012 at 7:37 PM
How could you possibly reason with this nonsense?!
lester on November 12, 2012 at 7:38 PM
But it just evolved that way. No purpose. No design. By chance. Randomly.
davidk on November 12, 2012 at 7:39 PM
hurr durr the universe just randomly appeared out of nowhere for no reason yeah that totally happens all the time why just the other day i saw a universe appear out of nowhere so it’s true okay
Sachiko on November 12, 2012 at 7:43 PM
Well, Lester. You could start by reading the article. Then you could examine the claims of the authors and refute, if possible, those claims.
That’s how it usually works.
Unless you’re fantasizing about a 15yo boy boinking a 12yo girl.
davidk on November 12, 2012 at 7:45 PM
i don’t think believers in the big bang and evolution realize how ridiculous they sound to those of us who believe in a Creator. they laugh at us and think we sound silly, but they sound just as silly to us. the feeling is mutual.
Sachiko on November 12, 2012 at 7:45 PM
What claims? Claims should have peer reviewed scientific studies behind them. That website has either references to itself or other creationist sources. As I said you can’t reason with magical beliefs. Waste of time.
Also, the same religion that tells you earth is 6000 years old tells you 15 year olds and 12 year olds should have babies for Jesus. It’s clear who’s fantasizing.
lester on November 12, 2012 at 7:52 PM
The zenith of evolution:
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT3ZiN0TIBE_vvOWjiyM6H-sFt20byUtQxsAB3HFHCmhMgeJ_PRmbASGtWi8Q
davidk on November 12, 2012 at 7:52 PM
LOL
LOLOLOLOL
Good Lt on November 12, 2012 at 7:53 PM
It’s the New York Times, so the author likely believes in macroevolution and/or Darwinian evolution, not microevolution within a species that scientific observation has discovered.
Bottom line short version: it ends up being an irrational faith to believe in the first two evolutions outlined above, and a faith in an omniscient Creator is supported by reason.
22044 on November 12, 2012 at 7:53 PM
The difference is that there is ample evidence to substantiate both theories, particularly evolution.
There is nothing in the way of objective evidence that can be tested affirming or supporting the existence of a sky being who created the universe from nothing with an incantation. None.
There are good reasons to laugh at creationists. Many of them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Eo5MdHMNcw
Good Lt on November 12, 2012 at 7:57 PM
Just look at this thread if you want to know why Republicans lost the Asian vote. Asian parents are not going to spend 18 years making sure their kids get straight A’s in school to then turn around and vote for a party full of absolute morons who deny evolution.
thphilli on November 12, 2012 at 7:57 PM
Remember, people. Macro-evolution has been 100% proven even though every single bit of evidence contains words and phrases like “could be”, “possibley”, “might be”, ect.
Meanwhile, if you if think that ther eis a possibility that an intelligent being created this planet as we know with (with or without micro-evolution), you are a total moron even though intelligent design is duplicated every day through things like computer programs (create words where the creator can see it’s creation but it’s creation can’t see the creator and where nothing in the creation can go beyond the physics created but the creator can mess around beyond the physics in debug and such).
DethMetalCookieMonst on November 12, 2012 at 7:58 PM
Evolutionists are the greatest dancers ever.
You do not refute because you cannot refute. I’m talking about you, Lester. Not your non-peer reviewed buds who quote each other.
But it is you who belittled a 15yo who took responsibility for his actions. You who, without proof, suggested that the boy had sex with a twelve year old girl. An atrocious assumption which reveals the depth of your character.
davidk on November 12, 2012 at 7:59 PM
Wrong.
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB901.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB901_1.html
I’ve recommended this before – before spouting off a creationist claim, make sure it hasn’t been debunked already. Start here:
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html
Good Lt on November 12, 2012 at 8:00 PM
Yep, those kids who get home schooled or go to private school (both with a vast majority being taught by christians) sure are stuuuuupid. Sure would explain why they tend to do so much better in college and life.
DethMetalCookieMonst on November 12, 2012 at 8:01 PM
Why should I check your sources when I have the truth? Truth is intolerant of error, buddy.
22044 on November 12, 2012 at 8:02 PM
The Good Lt. slithers out each time one of these threads show up. He is definitely a comment generator.
I’ll ask again. What makes you “good?’
davidk on November 12, 2012 at 8:02 PM
I just wish all of these people who are so sure of their nonsense “creator” myths could be sat down and be rationally explained to what evolution actually is, how it works, and the evidence for it. And then have very single one of their inane questions or “points” answered and refuted by evidence. Of course, it wouldn’t accomplish anything. No amount of evidence can teach a stupid person that the earth and life didn’t magically appear.
thphilli on November 12, 2012 at 8:03 PM
You don’t want to check the sources because they’d demonstrate that you’re categorically, factually WRONG. And you know it.
Go ahead. Make another claim.
Good Lt on November 12, 2012 at 8:03 PM
Is Good Lt an atheist?
22044 on November 12, 2012 at 8:04 PM
They send the children to a christian college which continues teaching them nonsense.
thphilli on November 12, 2012 at 8:04 PM
Stick to attacking the argument and stop trying to attack the person making the argument.
We’re talking about evolution on this thread, you’re trying to talk about your personal faith.
Good Lt on November 12, 2012 at 8:07 PM
And yet those same kids do better in life (search for it, even was posted here by Ed not to long ago).
Yep, those stuuuuuupid christians that go to stuuuuuuuuupid christian colleges sure do poor in life.
Meanwhile, let’s talk about how kids tend to do in public schools. You know, those public schools that tend to push the very idea of a creator out les the ACLU have a cow…
DethMetalCookieMonst on November 12, 2012 at 8:07 PM
Are you a bit insecure in your beliefs?
You’re trying to start an needless argument with someone on the Internet, who studied the evolution vs. intelligent design debate a long time ago, heard all the arguments, and made his decision. There is nothing new for me to consider.
You’re welcome to deny your Maker, but you will meet Him one day, as all of us will.
22044 on November 12, 2012 at 8:08 PM
High quality straw man video you got there.
Why doesn’t thunderfart offer to debate William Craig. I know why.
He fail to evolve a pair.
Even evo extraordinaire Dawkins won’t debate Craig.
davidk on November 12, 2012 at 8:08 PM
LOL
http://youtu.be/4u6Mz21jTaA
Craig has no scientific argument to present.
There would be nothing to debate about. Craig would be talking about magic.
Good Lt on November 12, 2012 at 8:11 PM
I’ll see everyone soon on another thread. How interesting it is to speak a simple truth and someone, who gets offended, wants to throw down. Not interested.
Take care all.
22044 on November 12, 2012 at 8:12 PM
the rats I used to dope up with morphine and cocaine would lacrimate like crazy in withdrawal.
tom daschle concerned on November 12, 2012 at 8:12 PM
I’m talking about how someone who espouses an evolutionary worldview can determine what is “good.”
But you know that. And you know that evolution cannot support an ethic of any kind except what “I” decide is good.
Say. Why don’t you offer to debate William Craig?
davidk on November 12, 2012 at 8:12 PM
That’s your whole circular argument.
Apriori creation is wrong, Craig is a creationist, Craig is wrong.
davidk on November 12, 2012 at 8:14 PM
BTW, without all of those stuuuuuuuuuuuuupid christans having there stuuuuuuuuupid christian charities for the poor, imagine how much higher taxes would be (to this day there is rarely a secular charity out there and never an atheist one).
DethMetalCookieMonst on November 12, 2012 at 8:15 PM
Intelligent design is not ‘a theory’ in the scientific use of the word.
It’s an untenable religious proposition grounded in religious belief. It explains nothing. It has no applicability. It has no predictive power. It is unfalsifiable. It is supernaturally based, not naturally based.
It’s just creationism rebranded. This argument was decided in a federal case Kitzmiller v. Dover.
There is no evidence for “intelligent design” because ID is just creationism. And there is no evidence to support ANY religious creation stories (not just your preferred version).
Creationism is religion, not science.
ID is creationism, and is therefore religion and not science.
Good Lt on November 12, 2012 at 8:19 PM
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