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House GOP aide: Hannity’s “evolution” on immigration could give cover to wavering lawmakers

Supporters of a new law were thrilled Friday with the news that two prominent conservative thinkers, talk show host Sean Hannity and columnist Charles Krauthammer, both expressed support for legalizing illegal immigrants.

Hannity used the movement’s chosen phrase, calling for a “pathway to citizenship,” saying he had “evolved” on the matter, while Krauthammer, in his Friday Post column, described the GOP’s hard-line stance on illegal immigration as the single policy shift required to bring Hispanics back to the party…

The biggest questions swirled around Boehner and his always unpredictable Republican caucus, which remains heavily influenced by tea-party conservatives.

A House GOP leadership aide said Friday that many rank-and-file members seemed to be “getting it,” and that Hannity’s statement was “giving cover to those who might ordinarily want to do it but wouldn’t or couldn’t.” Still, the aide said, “we’re talking about a massive piece of legislation, and those are difficult to do.”

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There’s just one problem with that, the 14th amendment, aka the anchor baby problem. The reason why Texas will eventually turn blue is because all the anchor babies who have grown up on dependence now vote Dem. Unless you change that provision, it won’t matter. Besides, the ACLU or Obama will say they’re second class citizens and eventually do something to grant them citizenship.

TxAnn56 on November 11, 2012 at 10:05 AM

I hear you on this, and it is an ongoing problem, but some of these problems we are going to have to fix one at a time. The kid born here can receive benefits if needed, but the illegals themselves are not entitled to them. We also have to go back to the fact that we remove the takers. If their kids go with them, that’s fine too.

john1schn on November 11, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Conservatives do need to understand that the new wave of immigrants are going to come from non-European nations and this is not a bad thing so long as those immigrants come in with a work ethic and the attitude to adopt American values (most do). milemarker2020 on November 11, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Legal immigration is just as bad if not worse. 85% of the legal immigrants come from third world or Asian countries. Obama got 75% of that vote. They work, sure, but they feel the government should also pay for everything and provide a safety net (e.g. VietNamese). I live in Tom DeLay’s old district and it may as well be Pakistan now. Muslims everywhere. Romney just barely won the district. Bush could have stopped this madness after 9/11. Shut the border, reduce immigration to pre-1965 levels and not allow anyone in from Muslim countries.

TxAnn56 on November 11, 2012 at 10:18 AM

What part of the word “illegal” is not being understood?

How about we just let some of the organized crime family members come out of the shadows and stop hiding? Let them say “Yeah..we’re Mafia” without the stigma of discrimination?..we could limit it though. Just let the ones who have been in the Mafia for a long time get a pass. Amnesty for past and future crimes. But only for those have been active criminals for at least 20 years.
But thats just common sense.

Mimzey on November 11, 2012 at 10:16 AM

Hell, we’re doing that right now.

john1schn on November 11, 2012 at 10:20 AM

I hope Michelle Malkin is on Hannity’s show soon and gives him an earful.

bluegill on November 11, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Malkin has been absolutely silent about all this amnesty talk on her website. I wonder if she’s “evolved” too.

Jon0815 on November 11, 2012 at 10:20 AM

You have a strange fixation with bashing Breitbart and bringing up gay issues, even when they’re not relevant. I remember you, on the day Breitbart died, gleefully wondering aloud on here if Breitbart died of AIDS. No offense, but you are sick and give this site a bad name.

bluegill on November 11, 2012 at 10:04 AM

He has a strange fixation on bashing everybody:

Plantation owner davidk is a puke a human being. In fact, seems to be a good description of most Americans at this time.

astonerii on November 5, 2012 at 12:34 PM

“most Americans”

davidk on November 11, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Shut the border, reduce immigration to pre-1965 levels and not allow anyone in from Muslim countries.

TxAnn56 on November 11, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Unfortunately, unless the birthrate rises among the non-immigrants, the immigration wave will continue.

john1schn on November 11, 2012 at 10:22 AM

Evolve? Into what? a Democrat? No thanks.

kingsjester on November 11, 2012 at 10:22 AM

Malkin has been absolutely silent about all this amnesty talk on her website. I wonder if she’s “evolved” too.

Jon0815 on November 11, 2012 at 10:20 AM

I doubt it. More likely biting her tongue for now.

Mimzey on November 11, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Plantation owner davidk is a puke a human being. In fact, seems to be a good description of most Americans at this time.

astonerii on November 5, 2012 at 12:34 PM

“most Americans”

davidk on November 11, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Most Americans consider Social Security and Medicare entitlements, LIKE YOU. They believe they are OWED OTHER PEOPLE”S CHILDREN’S WAGES as if those children are their property.
Plantation Owner davidk!

astonerii on November 11, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Can we least experience the fiscal cliff before adding 12 million people to our welfare rolls? Public opinion will change.

Oil Can on November 11, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Conservatives do need to understand that the new wave of immigrants are going to come from non-European nations and this is not a bad thing so long as those immigrants come in with a work ethic and the attitude to adopt American values (most do).

milemarker2020 on November 11, 2012 at 10:10 AM

They’re voting Democrat, too.

Barry took the Asian vote with something like 70% or so. See, the Democratic party is essentially a party that hates white people now and likes to remind new non-white immigrants just how bad and oppressive we are. Because of this constant propaganda — and the government goodies that we pay for — most of them will be life-long Democrats shaking their cliched fist at The Man.

Punchenko on November 11, 2012 at 10:27 AM

I doubt it. More likely biting her tongue for now.

Mimzey on November 11, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Biting her tongue is almost as bad. Her silence is deafening.

Jon0815 on November 11, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Biting her tongue is almost as bad. Her silence is deafening.

Jon0815 on November 11, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Let’s put, on a balance, what you’ve accomplished for the conservative cause and what she has.

davidk on November 11, 2012 at 10:30 AM

Hannity: Boo amnesty! Boo!

Murdoch: $hut up.

Hannity: $$$ Amnesty! Yay! More amnesty, please! $$$

Punchenko on November 11, 2012 at 10:31 AM

We get the white vote up. We don’t do that by throwing ourselves to the sharks and giving Dem voting & redistribution craving illegals the vote by the millions. I agree with those that state that Hannity should be get off the air, or he should go back on the air and say that he was rattled at the time and didn’t know what he was evolving to. And I thought Hannity was a reliable conservative.

We can get the white vote way up in the future because, if you look at the sentiment expressed in Brownstein’s article (http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/the-american-electorate-has-changed-and-there-s-no-turning-back-20121108), you see that whites lined in record numbers to vote for Romney. When the word is out about this, and the perception is that it really actually is a fight between whites and the hordes of illegals that want redistribution and control of govt for themselves, more and more whites will comes around to supporting the Republicans. Think about that, and spread the word about this viewpoint!

anotherJoe on November 11, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Nullification: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullification_%28U.S._Constitution%29

davidk on November 11, 2012 at 10:24 AM

The problem is that few in power give a damn about the Constitution.
The 14th doesn’t really apply to anchor babies. Natural born citizen is redefined for convenience sake.. have to fight for the Second..the First’s ‘no law restricting the free exercise of religion’ is trashed. No one in positions of power care. Even SCOTUS has turned into so many “deep thinker’ relativists.

Mimzey on November 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Oftentimes I’ve have heard people like Jeb Bush and other establishment types describe immigrants from Latin America as “natural conservatives” and Republicans need to offer amnesty to ensure that they get those votes. Their logic is that since Latin American immigrants are Catholic and have “family values” they would naturally gravitate towards the GOP. I would point out that a country like Italy, which is overwhelmingly Catholic and has good family values, is also overwhelmingly socialist. Why would anyone think that with more immigrants from Latin America the US wouldn’t continue to lurch even further leftward?

antifederalist on November 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM

If you look at where hispanics have finally achieved the overwhelming numbers so that they can choose their own representation without having to compromise with other demographics, they choose Villaraigosa, a radical ACLU lawyer who is the opposite of any conservative definition of “family values”, and they vote for him at the same rate blacks vote for Obama. The hispanics are natural conservatives claim is the biggest of the big lies. They are radical leftists fiscally and socially. The Jeb Bush types would respond to this by magnifying exceptions, exceptions being totally meaningless in a democracy.

Buddahpundit on November 11, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Let’s put, on a balance, what you’ve accomplished for the conservative cause and what she has.

davidk on November 11, 2012 at 10:30 AM

Really dumb non seqitur. By that logic Hannity’s “evolution” can’t be critized either, since he’s helped the conservative cause in the past.

Jon0815 on November 11, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Barry took the Asian vote with something like 70% or so. See, the Democratic party is essentially a party that hates white people now and likes to remind new non-white immigrants just how bad and oppressive we are. Because of this constant propaganda — and the government goodies that we pay for — most of them will be life-long Democrats shaking their cliched fist at The Man.

Punchenko on November 11, 2012 at 10:27 AM

This, this, a thousand times this. Standing up and applauding. (It was 75% btw) And to clarify for those that don’t know already. Asian includes India, Pakistan, etc and the Oriental countries. And then there are the African countries like Somalia, Nigeria. ALL VOTE DEM.

TxAnn56 on November 11, 2012 at 10:39 AM

What a sad veteran’s day, thinking of all the sacrifices that were apparently made in vain.

Anyway, here’s Hannity’s contact info if you’d like to tell him what a RINO shill he is. Pass it along to others.

http://www.hannity.com/contact

TxAnn56 on November 11, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Biting her tongue is almost as bad. Her silence is deafening.

Jon0815 on November 11, 2012 at 10:27 AM

I’m sure it’s temporary.

Mimzey on November 11, 2012 at 10:45 AM

This won’t get the GOP any votes. Hispanics just want the freebies, like everyone else.

Stupids.

ladyingray on November 11, 2012 at 10:46 AM

I’m sure it’s temporary.

Mimzey on November 11, 2012 at 10:45 AM

I hope so, but what’s the reason for it?

Jon0815 on November 11, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Hannity is done. I wonder who’ll get his radio slot?

Buddahpundit on November 11, 2012 at 9:36 AM

They are running with his football as fast as they can, just in case it evaporates.

Regardless, when the politicians make their moves I will be protesting

If When they try amnesty, I have nothing to lose by no longer supporting them. Matters not if a third party hands the US to the DEMs, since I am disenfranchised anyway

So grows the Tea Party

“conservative revolution”. election of a lifetime!!! the mule use to bray.

i wanna stick that all american football down his big fat throat.

renalin on November 11, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Sounds good

3. Make sure the illegals that are allowed to stay understand that they cannot ever become citizens and cannot vote.
john1schn on November 11, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Obama’s Dream Actors show you cannot enforce the law, if politicians stand to gain by ignoring the law. Trading in vote futures is opium to the politician

The last and ‘only’ amnesty lasted until they could move in more illegals to stage the next photo op

Murdoch wants amnesty. Murdoch owns Fox. Murdoch owns Hannity. [...]He’s nothing but a slimy panderer who can live in his gated community with his millions of dollars and not have to be effected by whatever Obama does. Thank God Rush has a bigger megaphone and gets it.
TxAnn56 on November 11, 2012 at 9:39 AM

I switched to FOX business because of the hammer FOX has been applying to those who will not ‘evolve’. Had to turn that off this week after the hammer began being applied about growing up and accepting gay marriage, legalizing drugs etc because America has changed

Surprised they still let us vote

Glad I have Rush

entagor on November 11, 2012 at 10:46 AM

anotherJoe on November 11, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Believe it or not, Ross Douthat (!), David Frum (!), and other former Republicans in horrible standing are hinting at increasing our share of the white working class through economic populism. I think I could get behind such proposals after Bailout Mania, the crony capitalism, and the fact that it is the rich (like Hannity) calling for more imported Democrats.

Punchenko on November 11, 2012 at 10:47 AM

If you all wish to push back against illegal immigration you are going to have to define your opponents or else they will define you. I think most Hot Gasers are soft. You all argue within Progressive’s politically correct paradigm. You all are afraid to come out and directly say what is happening. What is happening is that there is a deliberate attempt to replace White people in this country. Whites, for all intents and purposes, are considered to be undesirable people. Where else in the world is the deliberate replacement of people is celebrated? Should native Mexicans be happy if, through immigration, be outnumbered by people of Ireland? Should they be happy if their language and culture are replaced by foreigners? Of course not and no Progressive would advocate that they do. Since Mexicans are non White, they are allowed to prevent their culture from being taken over by White – and rightfully so. What is happening in the US should be categorized as cultural genocide. Here is Article 7 of a 1994 draft of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples

Indigenous peoples have the collective and individual right not to be subjected to ethnocide and cultural genocide, including prevention of and redress for:

(a) Any action which has the aim or effect of depriving them of their integrity as distinct peoples, or of their cultural values or ethnic identities;
(b) Any action which has the aim or effect of dispossessing them of their lands, territories or resources;
(c) Any form of population transfer which has the aim or effect of violating or undermining any of their rights;
(d) Any form of assimilation or integration by other cultures or ways of life imposed on them by legislative, administrative or other measures;
(e) Any form of propaganda directed against them.

Would it be accurate to say that this is what is happening to Whites in the US? If you want to push back against you are going to have to define your adversaries or else they will define you. The way the debate is structured, people who favor amnesty or “immigration reformed” are hailed as diversity advocates and their opponents (mostly you) are defined as racists and intolerant. What they need to be defined as anti-Whites who are deliberately committing cultural genocide. As I said before, either you define your opponents or else they will define you. You can not argue based their terms and expect to win.

antifederalist on November 11, 2012 at 10:48 AM

About getting the white vote up, I should doubly note that the Brownstein article I linked to in my last comment is particularly good at making the scary point about the trouble we face with the invasion of illegals. Spread that link around widely (below). And note also that Obamacare is going to be extremely costly as all the illegals (or legals if amnestized [Hannitized??]) are put on the OCare rolls. We now the opportunity to make the Republicans in effect the white party. We have no other choice, but then our numbers go way up when we see how the interests of whites are being taken away by the illegals that are grabbing for redistribution and control of our govt.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/the-american-electorate-has-changed-and-there-s-no-turning-back-20121108

anotherJoe on November 11, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Barry took the Asian vote with something like 70% or so. See, the Democratic party is essentially a party that hates white people now and likes to remind new non-white immigrants just how bad and oppressive we are. Because of this constant propaganda — and the government goodies that we pay for — most of them will be life-long Democrats shaking their cliched fist at The Man.

Punchenko on November 11, 2012 at 10:27 AM

This, this, a thousand times this. Standing up and applauding. (It was 75% btw) And to clarify for those that don’t know already. Asian includes India, Pakistan, etc and the Oriental countries. And then there are the African countries like Somalia, Nigeria. ALL VOTE DEM.

TxAnn56 on November 11, 2012 at 10:39 AM

The Democrats are gleefully using racial polarization, doubling down on ignorant tribalism, and then bragging about it on television and elsewhere.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

It’s time to organize against this hateful anti-American party and bring it down.

Punchenko on November 11, 2012 at 10:51 AM

I hope so, but what’s the reason for it?

Jon0815 on November 11, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Just a guess, but people don’t seem to be thinking very clearly right now.
It’s almost like the irrational thoughts one can have after a severe emotional blow. A long standing relationship abruptly ends and after anger, you start to blame yourself and your beliefs…”Maybe I should be more like that other person…I have to change to be more like that”.

Thats probably not it, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a bit of that effect churning around some people heads.
The sudden change in attitudes is unexplainable. People who rallied to “Be a proud conservative” all of a sudden are..”We need to change our world view”, is not the product of clear thinking imo.

Mimzey on November 11, 2012 at 10:57 AM

Would it be accurate to say that this is what is happening to Whites in the US? If you want to push back against you are going to have to define your adversaries or else they will define you.

antifederalist on November 11, 2012 at 10:48 AM

Yes, but what gives cover to this fact is that whites are in power in the Democrat power.

What we can do is destroy the white power within the Democrat Party by conservatives joining with minorities to promote minority candidates in their Democrat primaries. It’s a terrible problem for white Democrats because it’s impossible for them to campaign against their base and their positions of power are non-representative of their party. Over half of their power is white males, a demographic that doesn’t vote for Democrats, while minorities serve them drinks.

Buddahpundit on November 11, 2012 at 11:07 AM

About getting the white vote up, I should doubly note that the Brownstein article I linked to in my last comment is particularly good at making the scary point about the trouble we face with the invasion of illegals. Spread that link around widely (below).

anotherJoe on November 11, 2012 at 10:49 AM

I don’t get it. Apart from the picture above that lengthy and well-reasoned article, Mr. Brownstein doesn’t talk about illegals at all.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on November 11, 2012 at 11:20 AM

The Democrats are gleefully using racial polarization, doubling down on ignorant tribalism, and then bragging about it on television and elsewhere.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

It’s time to organize against this hateful anti-American party and bring it down.

Punchenko on November 11, 2012 at 10:51 AM

And media , and Rinos.
Jeb Bush didnt complain when media went all out lynch mob for the “white-hispanic” Zimmerman.
Even though his son is “white hispanic” !

Many enablers.

the_nile on November 11, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Evolution?

Nope.

Devolution.

If you keep the borders unsecured and add 20 million new illegal immigrants -AKA Democrats- and you end the nation.

KAG.

Kiss America Goodbye.

profitsbeard on November 11, 2012 at 11:33 AM

The truly stupid thing about this suicidal push for mass amnesty is the idea that the GOP will be credited for it. If it happens under Obama, it will be Obama and the Dems that will be heralded for pushing it through. Republicans gain nothing and will end up just giving the Democrat Party millions of legal votes.

Beyond that, it won’t change Hispanic voting patterns. They know where their bread is buttered. At some point we’ll have to admit that more people in this country value gov’t largesse more than they do pulling your own weight. You have one party promising more stuff while insisting on taking more from the makers…it’s easy to see why people will continue to gravitate to it.

changer1701 on November 11, 2012 at 11:34 AM

The Democrats are gleefully using racial polarization, doubling down on ignorant tribalism, and then bragging about it on television and elsewhere.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

It’s time to organize against this hateful anti-American party and bring it down.

Punchenko on November 11, 2012 at 10:51 AM

And media , and rinos.
Jeb Bush didnt complain when media went all out lynch mob for the “white-hispanic” Zimmerman.
Even though his son is “white hispanic” !

Many smug enablers.

the_nile on November 11, 2012 at 11:34 AM

The Democrats are gleefully using racial polarization, doubling down on ignorant tribalism, and then bragging about it on television and elsewhere.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

It’s time to organize against this hateful anti-American party and bring it down.

Punchenko on November 11, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Extremely well put!!

anotherJoe on November 11, 2012 at 11:43 AM

What we can do is destroy the white power within the Democrat Party by conservatives joining with minorities to promote minority candidates in their Democrat primaries.
Buddahpundit on November 11, 2012 at 11:07 AM

Why would that work?
Every time a minority leaves the plantation they are slandered every way possible. A Dem advocates for them?..quick go through their past as far and as deep as possible to fine some trash. Can’t find any? Make something up.

Mimzey on November 11, 2012 at 11:46 AM

There’s just one problem with that, the 14th amendment, aka the anchor baby problem. The reason why Texas will eventually turn blue is because all the anchor babies who have grown up on dependence now vote Dem. Unless you change that provision, it won’t matter. Besides, the ACLU or Obama will say they’re second class citizens and eventually do something to grant them citizenship.

TxAnn56 on November 11, 2012 at 10:05 AM

The hammock support system will break long before that happens. Down will come baby, cradle and all.

disa on November 11, 2012 at 11:50 AM

By the way, in 2008 I pledged not to give the RNC another dime until they proved to me they’d gotten their act together.

Needless to say, my purse is still closed to them.

At this time, our contributions are solely to the Special Ops Warrior Project, the USO, Joyce Meyer Ministries and Judicial Watch. Please consider that last one, since they do the dirty work needed to bring to light a lot of the dirty business this administration conducts.

disa on November 11, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Most Americans consider Social Security and Medicare entitlements, LIKE YOU. They believe they are OWED OTHER PEOPLE”S CHILDREN’S WAGES as if those children are their property.
Plantation Owner davidk!

astonerii

It was retarded the first time you said it. It still is.

xblade on November 11, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Amesty would be the end of the republic, Texas would turn blue, and the GOP would never win a national election again.

It’s so obvious, why are these supposed “conservatives” are climbing on board the national suicide wagon is a mystery to me.

Rebar

Maybe this is why:

When I aided the foreign relations of presidential candidate and president-elect Vicente Fox back in 1999 and 2000, I met with almost 80 U.S. congressmen and senators during numerous trips and at several events. With just over 50 of them, my colleagues and I spoke about immigration in some depth, as it is one of the important bilateral topics.

My findings were reported in a Backgrounder published by the Center for Immigration Studies called “Politics by Other Means.”1 It is a dense and academic paper, but the basic finding was: Indeed, American politicians are overwhelmingly pro-immigration, for a variety of reasons, and they do not always admit this to their constituents. Of those 50 legislators, 45 were unambiguously pro-immigration, even asking us at times to “send more.” This was true of both Democrats and Republicans.

Later, in the same piece:

Also curiously, the Republican enthusiasm for increased immigration also was not so much about voting in the end, even with “converted” Latinos. Instead, these legislators seemingly believed that they could weaken the restraining and frustrating straightjacket devised by the Founding Fathers and abetted by American norms.

In that idealized “new” United States, political uncertainty, demanding constituents, difficult elections, and accountability in general would “go away” after tinkering with the People, who have given lawmakers their privileges but who, like a Sword of Damocles, can also “unfairly” take them away. Hispanics would acquiesce and assist in the “natural progress” of these legislators to remain in power and increase the scope of that power. In this sense, Republicans and Democrats were similar.
http://cis.org/Usurpation-Elites-People%27sWill

xblade on November 11, 2012 at 1:25 PM

I love how all these so called GOP mouthpieces don’t even wait util the dust has settled to take account of what happened and what the actual voters want.

Blake

It’s almost like they had the script prepared in advance, isn’t it?

By the way, I bet no one paid attention at the time, but I said several times leading up to the election that the real reason the GOP abandoned Akin in Missouri wasn’t because of what he said about women, it was because he is anti-illegal immigration and is anti-amnesty. What he said gave them the excuse they wanted. Then, less than 9 hours after Obama wins, what do you know, everybody and his mother is calling for amnesty.

xblade on November 11, 2012 at 1:28 PM

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