Falling off the fiscal cliff, even briefly, would be a bad idea
But the psychological damage if lawmakers head home for the holidays without averting the cliff could have lasting effects.
The lack of a year-end deal would unsettle consumers, businesses, and financial markets, says Ellen Zentner, senior U.S. economist at Nomura Securities International. The negativity could feed on itself, leading Americans to stop spending and businesses to stop hiring and investing. Even a temporary expiration of the cuts could lead to a quarter of negative growth in gross domestic product, Zentner says. Her firm already expects GDP growth to slow to a crawl in the first quarter, advancing by a mere 0.5 percent. Because consumer spending accounts for more than two-thirds of GDP, another drop in such spending could push the economy into a contraction.
Nervousness about the cliff has hampered growth in the business sector for several months. Business investment shrank 1.3 percent in the third quarter, the biggest drop since late 2009. The pullback in investment dovetails with a recent Business Roundtable survey that found pessimism of CEOs hitting a three-year high. Analysts found that fears about the fiscal cliff were driving much of the pessimism. Yet even though businesses have turned cautious, a complete Washington stalemate could still blindside Wall Street. “We don’t think the markets have it priced in whatsoever,” Zentner says. And if businesses are pessimistic now, imagine how they’ll feel if Congress plunges from the cliff.








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I can’t think of any good reasons for the GOP to bail out liberals again. California and Illinois are bankrupt and have doubled down on stupid in this election…moving to single party domination. The only way those two states will avoid the inevitable result of Democrat/Insanity public policy decisions is if the now-Dem controlled Federal government uses our money to bail them out.
So I say fuc-k it…let ‘em burn. And I live in Illinois. I will wholeheartedly back the GOP House if they hogtie the Dems and drive us over the cliff. It’s the only way they’ll learn…make them suffer the consequences of Democrat leadership.
Jaibones on November 8, 2012 at 6:16 PM
This is what the electorate voted for. Let’s give it to them.
Elections have consequences.
thirteen28 on November 8, 2012 at 6:35 PM
We have come to a point that you have to get burned to know that fire will burn. You have to go without food to know something is not right. You have to pack up your stuff and put in a storage locker as you no longer have a house but a couch to sleep on to know something is not right. You have to go back to your childhood bedroom after college and look at that faded Obama poster for 3 years and still not have a job to know something is not right.
We have a generation who grew up with participation trophies so now it the time to say you lost and you get nothing but here is the bill for all those trophies you got.
tjexcite on November 8, 2012 at 6:41 PM
I am not afraid to watch us go over the cliff… conservatives know how to take care of themselves in the ‘zombie apocalypse’, and behold, we have it thrust upon us. I will keep my head down, my powder dry, and work on the little things to keep my butt out of the way of the wrecking ball that is Obamanomics/Obamacare/Obamaholism.
Truly, the only way to learn is to feel the pain, and if the Dems think that they can keep on this fiscal path of insanity, then so be it. I’m not worried about my fellow conservatives because they are survivors. I’m not worried about Dems because I do believe in Darwinism and survival of the fittest. When it comes down to the parts of the machine, I’m glad that I’m part of the engine, not part of the paint.
No matter what happens these next 4 years, I believe in America and what we have as conservative strength, not liberal or progressive weakness. I will not give to those who do not deserve, I will not work with those who do not believe in bettering themselves, and I will never, never, never give up on those who believe in God and Country (not a Christian, btw).
We will survive this, and I think it will come down to “Told ya so”.
Symshady on November 8, 2012 at 10:43 PM
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