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MSM (that includes news, networks, hollywood) is the enemy that we have to even come close to engaging appropriately. I’ll leave how to do that for the smarter people– but what we’ve done so far is too little too late.
Without the leftist lying media, Obama & democrats would have been on the trash heap of history long, long ago.
What we’re fighting, is a corrupt election machine.
hawkdriver on November 7, 2012 at 1:09 AM
I have been feeling that we conservatives are just outnumbered. I pray that you may be right. Are there enough people in this country that still care? Does the voting system just need an overhaul? Like….voter ID?
I actually think Romney should have chosen RUBIO this year. This election is close enough that with his appeal and base excitement, I think it would have pushed us over the top in all these close races.
LOL… Obama is going to inherit such a big mess.
El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 1:06 AM
I was thinking that too. When the recession hits the fan next year, who will Obama blame them. It’s all on him, no more blame Bush. He will try, but will it work this time.
Oil Can on November 7, 2012 at 1:11 AM
Since Romney is Mormon, is America racist?
faraway on November 7, 2012 at 1:02 AM
My supposedly Christian aunt pulled the lever for the infanticide candidate because Romney is Mormon. Very revealing. I found out she’s a phony and a religious bigot in one night.
Maybe next time we can field a conservative in the general election?
mythicknight on November 7, 2012 at 12:57 AM
Is that a joke?
Here’s an idea. How about “you” just join the Democrat Party and try to get them to be more fiscally restrained. Because you’re no Republican. You’re a liberal that’s tight with his money. The only appealing platform of the GOP and you’ll never get there again because people like you have enabled Democrats to get more powerful all the time. You bow to their progressive social issues and then just have to fall in with the rest of it. Suck on some spiffy new higher taxes for your troubles.
I was thinking that too. When the recession hits the fan next year, who will Obama blame them. It’s all on him, no more blame Bush. He will try, but will it work this time.
Oil Can on November 7, 2012 at 1:11 AM
It worked this time. In 2016 the media will declare the 22nd Amendment racisssssst! And will chant “4 more years!”
It is really difficult to fathom. How did we manage to field such poor candidates for the senate when we had such a good chance of taking control? How do we elect 30 Republican governors and have red states send democrats to the senate? If 52% of the population hates Obamacare how does he get re-elected. None of this make any sense.
I was thinking that too. When the recession hits the fan next year, who will Obama blame them. It’s all on him, no more blame Bush. He will try, but will it work this time.
Oil Can on November 7, 2012 at 1:11 AM
Obama doesn’t care…he doesn’t have to worry about anybody or anything now. And that terrifies me so much I can’t even sleep now.
HotAir has lost a lot of credibility tonight. Demanding the pollsters were all wrong. Claiming the polls should be closer to r+1, instead of an actual d+7. They are Republican cheerleaders instead of an alternative news source to the msm. How could ed & Allah been so wrong???
Maybe next time we can field a conservative in the general election?
mythicknight on November 7, 2012 at 12:57 AM
Last one was in 1984. 20 years ago!
Oil Can on November 7, 2012 at 1:14 AM
He’s being sarcastic. What that translates to from him is that Conservatives on the ticket would have only made it worse. Histhicknight is farther to the left than most Donks.
HotAir has lost a lot of credibility tonight. Demanding the pollsters were all wrong. Claiming the polls should be closer to r+1, instead of an actual d+7. They are Republican cheerleaders instead of an alternative news source to the msm. How could ed & Allah been so wrong???
portlandon on November 7, 2012 at 1:18 AM
Actually it was Ras and Gallup claiming an R+ electorate.
HotAir has lost a lot of credibility tonight. Demanding the pollsters were all wrong. Claiming the polls should be closer to r+1, instead of an actual d+7. They are Republican cheerleaders instead of an alternative news source to the msm. How could ed & Allah been so wrong???
portlandon on November 7, 2012 at 1:18 AM
Yep, they are part of the same GOP machine that pretends it is not going to yank the football away. Anyone that exists in the North East should never be trusted. All pigs to the same political trough. But HEY, did you know Ann Coulter has a new book out, so she will be just fine…
HotAir has lost a lot of credibility tonight. Demanding the pollsters were all wrong. Claiming the polls should be closer to r+1, instead of an actual d+7. They are Republican cheerleaders instead of an alternative news source to the msm. How could ed & Allah been so wrong???
portlandon on November 7, 2012 at 1:18 AM
All conventional wisdom was destroyed tonight. Half of America wants Mr. Black Cool and not results.
It worked this time. In 2016 the media will declare the 22nd Amendment racisssssst! And will chant “4 more years!”
jawkneemusic on November 7, 2012 at 1:17 AM
I do believe that Obama wing of the Democrats want the US to fail, so they can rebuilt it like….the October revolution.
Look for separation feelers in Red States. Nothing serious just feelers. If you have a Capitalist and Socialist how long can they stay in the same house?
I’m a 45 year old nursing student. It’s what I’ve always wanted to do.
‘m recondsidering now. I cannot bear the thought of denying care because a committie says the actuarial tables say said care works out. I honestly can say that I couldn’t face the families of those poor souls. I’m seriously rethinking my major. My fiance and I are seriously thinking about leaving. I don’t want to. I love my country…but what else is there after tonight?
My parents are both ill. They are both in their late 60′s. My mom needs a knee replacement and my dad’s aortic valve is prolapsing. They choose the knee replacement over my dad’s heart because they figured that dad would have an easier time getting approval for the valve replacement under Obamacare. Go figure. The fac that they even had to consider this makes me ill to my soul. I just don’t understand this world anymore.
So far so good on the knee. I don’t hold out hope for dad because of his age and our inhereted heart problems.
I don’t know how we will be able to take care of mom if daddy dies.
I’m so damn scared.
This isn’t the country I was raised in. I don’t recognise it at all.
I need to sleep a while. Maybe tomorrow will bring clarity.
Claiming the polls should be closer to r+1, instead of an actual d+7. They are Republican cheerleaders instead of an alternative news source to the msm. How could ed & Allah been so wrong???
portlandon on November 7, 2012 at 1:18 AM
I’d like to know this, too. How did they pull it off? Or did our side really not turn out for Romney any more than we did for McCain?
HotAir has lost a lot of credibility tonight. Demanding the pollsters were all wrong. Claiming the polls should be closer to r+1, instead of an actual d+7. They are Republican cheerleaders instead of an alternative news source to the msm. How could ed & Allah been so wrong???
portlandon on November 7, 2012 at 1:18 AM
The talk is that Obama has achieved realignment. He won African Americans, Latinos, women, and young people with large margins, and he got them to the polls. That means our old models of looking at elections may be over.
HotAir has lost a lot of credibility tonight. Demanding the pollsters were all wrong. Claiming the polls should be closer to r+1, instead of an actual d+7. They are Republican cheerleaders instead of an alternative news source to the msm. How could ed & Allah been so wrong???
portlandon on November 7, 2012 at 1:18 AM
Yup, there was plenty of cherry-picking polls here. Hey, look at this PA poll from an outfit that nobody’s ever heard of before that shows Romney leading by a point! Let’s post about this and ignore the 25 other polls that average out to an Obama lead of 4+ points! Very shameful, and they both should have known better.
Unskewed Polls right now: “The FINAL Definitive Projection of the race: Romney wins 51% and 275 EVs (new 11/5) ”
lol…you deserve it.
Can.I.be.in.the.middle on November 7, 2012 at 1:27 AM
Sachiko on November 7, 2012 at 1:21 AM
Romney was a weak candidate – he couldn’t even talk about the most unpopular Act in American history throughout the campaign, because he invented it – but not weak enough to blame the loss on. He certainly did better than any of the people who actually put themselves forward would have.
No, this is America’s choice, plain and simple. If we’re lucky, it was stupidity. Very few Americans know what’s going on, after all.
If we’re unlucky, it’s as you say, handouts and greed. My sense is stupidity. American positions haven’t changed. The exit polling for this electorate said the government is doing too much vs. too little, 53/41.
Yup, there was plenty of cherry-picking polls here. Hey, look at this PA poll from an outfit that nobody’s ever heard of before that shows Romney leading by a point! Let’s post about this and ignore the 25 other polls that average out to an Obama lead of 4+ points! Very shameful, and they both should have known better.
Armin Tamzarian on November 7, 2012 at 1:26 AM
You are completely wrong; HotAir made mention of every single significant poll this election whether it showed R up or 0 up. They also analyzed the talk of whether the D samples were too big, but they never, ever ignored a poll just because it showed results they or the readership didn’t like.
HotAir has lost a lot of credibility tonight. Demanding the pollsters were all wrong. Claiming the polls should be closer to r+1, instead of an actual d+7. They are Republican cheerleaders instead of an alternative news source to the msm. How could ed & Allah been so wrong???
portlandon on November 7, 2012 at 1:18 AM
I agree 100%. I think it happened last week for me, when they reported the 2 out 9 polls that showed Romney leading. If you relied on HA alone, you would have WRONGLY thought that there was a real mittmentum….never happened. Just look at the margins O is winning the states by. It’s freaking in line with PPP and the Marist poll…overall outcome for tonight is D+6
HA did do its viewership a disservice. When I tried to even point it out, the KOOLAIDs nuked me.
Nuke this bee-oches.
Can.I.be.in.the.middle on November 7, 2012 at 1:31 AM
You folks saying Romney was weak? WTF? Who? Who could you have put up, that could have stood up to a media that was in the tank for obama?
How about you look to the people who run the news, who run the debates, who tell half the people in this country what to think and what to say before you circle up the firing squads again.
Against all the odds and the media, that man still got half the popular vote. He did it with grace and his did it without stooping to the crass tactics of the left and the lies.
Who? Who’s your candidate that could have done better?
American elected a guy who is objectively worse than Jimmy Carter.
Time to cut the gangrenous limb of the progressive states off, and form a new nation under a better, explicitly anti-progressive Constitution. And they can keep that debt too.
You are completely wrong; HotAir made mention of every single significant poll this election whether it showed R up or 0 up. They also analyzed the talk of whether the D samples were too big, but they never, ever ignored a poll just because it showed results they or the readership didn’t like.
cynccook on November 7, 2012 at 1:29 AM
No, they didn’t. I know they didn’t, because for months I have been following both Hot Air and the RCP polling center. Both Ed and AP regularly cherry-picked (mostly Rasmussen) polls showing good numbers for Romney and ignoring mediocre or bad ones. They did usually cover the really bad ones, though of course they always added their “expert analysis” about why it was wrong. So, no excuses here.
I say take a sledge hammer and dislodge his coalition.
El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 1:25 AM
I think we have a deep recession coming, I mean deep. I don’t know in 2016 this coalition will be around. Probably, when have the chance of Hyper Inflation or some sort of major employment problems we might hit a another phase. We might hit a house divided phase, I don’t know. It doesn’t look good, but I try to be positive for my family.
The talk is that Obama has achieved realignment. He won African Americans, Latinos, women, and young people with large margins, and he got them to the polls. That means our old models of looking at elections may be over.
El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 1:23 AM
Yeah, but the “Republicans-need-to-reach-out-to-X” line is guff. It’s almost always said by Republicans’ political enemies as “advice,” and you know what they say about taking advice from your political enemies.
Practically speaking, there is no way to “reach out” to these groups. It’s just a line. I guess we can reach out to women by having our candidates not talk about how they feel that raped women should not be exceptions to their pro-Life sentiments, but that’s about it.
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Last one was in 1984. 20 years ago!
Oil Can on November 7, 2012 at 1:14 AM
MSM (that includes news, networks, hollywood) is the enemy that we have to even come close to engaging appropriately. I’ll leave how to do that for the smarter people– but what we’ve done so far is too little too late.
Without the leftist lying media, Obama & democrats would have been on the trash heap of history long, long ago.
Security Mom on November 7, 2012 at 1:14 AM
I have been feeling that we conservatives are just outnumbered. I pray that you may be right. Are there enough people in this country that still care? Does the voting system just need an overhaul? Like….voter ID?
AZgranny on November 7, 2012 at 1:14 AM
I actually think Romney should have chosen RUBIO this year. This election is close enough that with his appeal and base excitement, I think it would have pushed us over the top in all these close races.
El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 1:14 AM
This is truly incredible in its badness. At least last time, we knew what hit us. What went wrong?
thebrokenrattle on November 7, 2012 at 1:15 AM
The evil rich. They can always pay more, right?
txhsmom on November 7, 2012 at 1:15 AM
My supposedly Christian aunt pulled the lever for the infanticide candidate because Romney is Mormon. Very revealing. I found out she’s a phony and a religious bigot in one night.
jawkneemusic on November 7, 2012 at 1:16 AM
Is that a joke?
Here’s an idea. How about “you” just join the Democrat Party and try to get them to be more fiscally restrained. Because you’re no Republican. You’re a liberal that’s tight with his money. The only appealing platform of the GOP and you’ll never get there again because people like you have enabled Democrats to get more powerful all the time. You bow to their progressive social issues and then just have to fall in with the rest of it. Suck on some spiffy new higher taxes for your troubles.
hawkdriver on November 7, 2012 at 1:16 AM
Rubio Rubio Roooooo-beeeee-oooooooohhh
El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 1:17 AM
It worked this time. In 2016 the media will declare the 22nd Amendment racisssssst! And will chant “4 more years!”
jawkneemusic on November 7, 2012 at 1:17 AM
Rubio will win it in 2016.
Flapjackmaka on November 7, 2012 at 1:17 AM
It is really difficult to fathom. How did we manage to field such poor candidates for the senate when we had such a good chance of taking control? How do we elect 30 Republican governors and have red states send democrats to the senate? If 52% of the population hates Obamacare how does he get re-elected. None of this make any sense.
IdrilofGondolin on November 7, 2012 at 1:17 AM
I don’t ever want to hear that a vote for anyone else besides the GOP sacks of sh1t, is a wasted vote again.
ClassicCon on November 7, 2012 at 1:17 AM
Obama doesn’t care…he doesn’t have to worry about anybody or anything now. And that terrifies me so much I can’t even sleep now.
AUINSC on November 7, 2012 at 1:17 AM
HotAir has lost a lot of credibility tonight. Demanding the pollsters were all wrong. Claiming the polls should be closer to r+1, instead of an actual d+7. They are Republican cheerleaders instead of an alternative news source to the msm. How could ed & Allah been so wrong???
portlandon on November 7, 2012 at 1:18 AM
He’s too much of a gentleman for me. After the campaign that O ran, I would have said:
FOAD
Resist We Much on November 7, 2012 at 1:18 AM
Protip: If america wanted someone more conservative than romney, they wouldn’t have re-elected a progressive liberal.
triple on November 7, 2012 at 1:19 AM
He’s being sarcastic. What that translates to from him is that Conservatives on the ticket would have only made it worse. Histhicknight is farther to the left than most Donks.
hawkdriver on November 7, 2012 at 1:19 AM
Some of you need to get a fricken grip.
2008 was worse. You didn’t really know what was going to go down but you feared the worst. Justifiably.
The next four years are not going to be pretty by any means but you can be pretty darn sure what it will entail and are forearmed and can prepare.
Time to grow a pair and man up.
Evaluate, adapt, overcome.
CorporatePiggy on November 7, 2012 at 1:20 AM
Actually it was Ras and Gallup claiming an R+ electorate.
jawkneemusic on November 7, 2012 at 1:20 AM
romney didn’t win.
is that his fault or the american people’s?
was romney too weak a candidate? or do too many americans love false msm narratives and free gov’t handouts that it really isn’t romney’s fault?
i’m not sure…
Sachiko on November 7, 2012 at 1:21 AM
Yep, they are part of the same GOP machine that pretends it is not going to yank the football away. Anyone that exists in the North East should never be trusted. All pigs to the same political trough. But HEY, did you know Ann Coulter has a new book out, so she will be just fine…
ClassicCon on November 7, 2012 at 1:22 AM
The takers are getting a paycut today. I am not selling my house, I am not remodeling, I am not buying a new house, I am reducing my consulting fees.
Screw them all.
*shrugs*
Peri Winkle on November 7, 2012 at 1:22 AM
Oh stop. America didn’t elect obama, AGAIN. The media did. He’s a “product” of the liberal media. He is and isn’t what they make him.
hawkdriver on November 7, 2012 at 1:22 AM
All conventional wisdom was destroyed tonight. Half of America wants Mr. Black Cool and not results.
txhsmom on November 7, 2012 at 1:22 AM
I do believe that Obama wing of the Democrats want the US to fail, so they can rebuilt it like….the October revolution.
Look for separation feelers in Red States. Nothing serious just feelers. If you have a Capitalist and Socialist how long can they stay in the same house?
Oil Can on November 7, 2012 at 1:22 AM
I’m a 45 year old nursing student. It’s what I’ve always wanted to do.
‘m recondsidering now. I cannot bear the thought of denying care because a committie says the actuarial tables say said care works out. I honestly can say that I couldn’t face the families of those poor souls. I’m seriously rethinking my major. My fiance and I are seriously thinking about leaving. I don’t want to. I love my country…but what else is there after tonight?
My parents are both ill. They are both in their late 60′s. My mom needs a knee replacement and my dad’s aortic valve is prolapsing. They choose the knee replacement over my dad’s heart because they figured that dad would have an easier time getting approval for the valve replacement under Obamacare. Go figure. The fac that they even had to consider this makes me ill to my soul. I just don’t understand this world anymore.
So far so good on the knee. I don’t hold out hope for dad because of his age and our inhereted heart problems.
I don’t know how we will be able to take care of mom if daddy dies.
I’m so damn scared.
This isn’t the country I was raised in. I don’t recognise it at all.
I need to sleep a while. Maybe tomorrow will bring clarity.
I hope so, anyway.
Gettycorn on November 7, 2012 at 1:22 AM
I’d like to know this, too. How did they pull it off? Or did our side really not turn out for Romney any more than we did for McCain?
JimLennon on November 7, 2012 at 1:23 AM
The talk is that Obama has achieved realignment. He won African Americans, Latinos, women, and young people with large margins, and he got them to the polls. That means our old models of looking at elections may be over.
El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 1:23 AM
I say take a sledge hammer and dislodge his coalition.
El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 1:25 AM
Probably both. The GOP fielded mostly third rate candidates and they may not have anything else left.
Romney was weak and the voters wanted free government cheese.
sharrukin on November 7, 2012 at 1:25 AM
Yup, there was plenty of cherry-picking polls here. Hey, look at this PA poll from an outfit that nobody’s ever heard of before that shows Romney leading by a point! Let’s post about this and ignore the 25 other polls that average out to an Obama lead of 4+ points! Very shameful, and they both should have known better.
Armin Tamzarian on November 7, 2012 at 1:26 AM
lol…you deserve it.
Can.I.be.in.the.middle on November 7, 2012 at 1:27 AM
Romney was a weak candidate – he couldn’t even talk about the most unpopular Act in American history throughout the campaign, because he invented it – but not weak enough to blame the loss on. He certainly did better than any of the people who actually put themselves forward would have.
No, this is America’s choice, plain and simple. If we’re lucky, it was stupidity. Very few Americans know what’s going on, after all.
If we’re unlucky, it’s as you say, handouts and greed. My sense is stupidity. American positions haven’t changed. The exit polling for this electorate said the government is doing too much vs. too little, 53/41.
HitNRun on November 7, 2012 at 1:27 AM
Skimming the 10k comments it seems like everyone’s seeing red tonight – pun intended.
Some of our members need to consider joining these guys.
Safe for work as long as you don’t laugh too hard. Go on – it’s been a disappointing night. Have a laugh.
CorporatePiggy on November 7, 2012 at 1:27 AM
You are completely wrong; HotAir made mention of every single significant poll this election whether it showed R up or 0 up. They also analyzed the talk of whether the D samples were too big, but they never, ever ignored a poll just because it showed results they or the readership didn’t like.
cynccook on November 7, 2012 at 1:29 AM
I think we’re all missing the big point… The Redskins Rule has now been wrong TWICE in the last 3 elections.
El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 1:29 AM
I deserve you voting for a police state to take more money away from my family because you don’t want to be an adult and pay for your own healthcare?
What a great American you are…spoiled fcking child with pubic hair.
ClassicCon on November 7, 2012 at 1:30 AM
I agree 100%. I think it happened last week for me, when they reported the 2 out 9 polls that showed Romney leading. If you relied on HA alone, you would have WRONGLY thought that there was a real mittmentum….never happened. Just look at the margins O is winning the states by. It’s freaking in line with PPP and the Marist poll…overall outcome for tonight is D+6
HA did do its viewership a disservice. When I tried to even point it out, the KOOLAIDs nuked me.
Nuke this bee-oches.
Can.I.be.in.the.middle on November 7, 2012 at 1:31 AM
You folks saying Romney was weak? WTF? Who? Who could you have put up, that could have stood up to a media that was in the tank for obama?
How about you look to the people who run the news, who run the debates, who tell half the people in this country what to think and what to say before you circle up the firing squads again.
Against all the odds and the media, that man still got half the popular vote. He did it with grace and his did it without stooping to the crass tactics of the left and the lies.
Who? Who’s your candidate that could have done better?
hawkdriver on November 7, 2012 at 1:31 AM
American elected a guy who is objectively worse than Jimmy Carter.
Time to cut the gangrenous limb of the progressive states off, and form a new nation under a better, explicitly anti-progressive Constitution. And they can keep that debt too.
Rebar on November 7, 2012 at 1:33 AM
I might just start posting pictures I find funny now.
http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/swanson-govt3.jpg
El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 1:34 AM
I truly don’t understand you guys that still cling to the notion there is a political solution to this…and if there is I see only one.
ClassicCon on November 7, 2012 at 1:34 AM
No, they didn’t. I know they didn’t, because for months I have been following both Hot Air and the RCP polling center. Both Ed and AP regularly cherry-picked (mostly Rasmussen) polls showing good numbers for Romney and ignoring mediocre or bad ones. They did usually cover the really bad ones, though of course they always added their “expert analysis” about why it was wrong. So, no excuses here.
Armin Tamzarian on November 7, 2012 at 1:34 AM
I think we have a deep recession coming, I mean deep. I don’t know in 2016 this coalition will be around. Probably, when have the chance of Hyper Inflation or some sort of major employment problems we might hit a another phase. We might hit a house divided phase, I don’t know. It doesn’t look good, but I try to be positive for my family.
Oil Can on November 7, 2012 at 1:34 AM
2008 was nothing compared to tonight’s democratic turnout.
Can.I.be.in.the.middle on November 7, 2012 at 1:35 AM
John Roberts will betray you
El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 1:35 AM
Yep, America is truly a nation of sluts and parasites now. Well done.
ClassicCon on November 7, 2012 at 1:35 AM
Yeah, but the “Republicans-need-to-reach-out-to-X” line is guff. It’s almost always said by Republicans’ political enemies as “advice,” and you know what they say about taking advice from your political enemies.
Practically speaking, there is no way to “reach out” to these groups. It’s just a line. I guess we can reach out to women by having our candidates not talk about how they feel that raped women should not be exceptions to their pro-Life sentiments, but that’s about it.
HitNRun on November 7, 2012 at 1:36 AM
Any truth to the rumor that Biden will retire and be replaced by Chris Christie?
Mr. Wednesday Night on November 7, 2012 at 1:36 AM
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