Todd Starnes
Herman Cain calls for the creation of third party
“We need a third party to save this country,” Cain told American Family Radio host Bryan Fischer. “This country is in trouble and it is clear that neither party — is going to fix the problems we face.”
Cain agreed with Fischer’s assessment that conservatives are growing tired of being ignored by Republican party leadership — and that many believe the GOP no longer speaks for them. …
“I don’t believe the Republican Party has the ability to rebrand itself against the mainstream media machine that blatantly works to support this president and other liberals as well as the Democrats,” Cain told the radio host.
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Herman Cain is an idiot. He was Chairman of the Board of the Federal Reserve Bank of the Omaha branch and just one week before the economy collapsed, he was saying the economy was in great shape. He is a moron.
Dante on November 8, 2012 at 8:31 AM
Third parties didn’t cost your side any votes.
Dante on November 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM
If you promise to take the Akins and the Mourdocks and the Santorums of the party with you Herman…then go right ahead.
lynncgb on November 8, 2012 at 8:35 AM
“…But the mainstream media machine will completely embrace a third party that’s more conservative than the GOP, and will at the same time stop blatantly working to support this president and other liberals as well as the Democrats.”
Akzed on November 8, 2012 at 8:54 AM
They cost the party most closely aligned to them votes. It’s not even arguable.
“The reason is simple. Unlike a parliamentary system in which governments are formed by coalitions of large and small parties, our electoral system is a first-past-the-post, winner-take-all one in which a winning presidential candidate just needs to get more than 50% of the vote. This means each contending ‘major’ party is itself a coalition that needs to assemble enough diverse voting groups within it to get to 51%. Hence the need to appeal to the so-called moderates and independents rather than the more ‘extreme’ elements within.”
Third party = third place.
Akzed on November 8, 2012 at 8:57 AM
They did not. You are making the false assumption that the Republican Party is most closely aligned to them. It’s not. Not in any way, shape, or form. You are also making the false assumption that third party voters would have voted for the Republican candidate if they had been unable to vote for their preference. They wouldn’t have.
Dante on November 8, 2012 at 9:00 AM
Sign me up, as long as Cain is not insisting on himself being the candidate. The Republican Party is never going to win another Presidential election, that much is clear.
joe_doufu on November 8, 2012 at 9:01 AM
Exhibit A of why a 3rd party is clueless…
lovingmyUSA on November 8, 2012 at 9:01 AM
EXCELLENT!!!
lovingmyUSA on November 8, 2012 at 9:03 AM
Most of the talk here is putting the cart before the horse. Reversing progressive victorys will not be accomplished by new parties, purging republican leaders or creating candidates. It has to be done the hard way, by taking what we’re preaching here and pushing it out to social media, schools, videos, progressive blogs and more. As we educate the electorate, better candidates emerge and party leaders are replaced or 3rd parties developer.
elfman on November 8, 2012 at 9:04 AM
Spoken like a true Paulbot…and hence the reason I would spit on Ron Paul if I ever get the chance.
lovingmyUSA on November 8, 2012 at 9:05 AM
There is no second place. Your party has nominated five people for the presidency over the past 20 years. Only one of them has won.
Your comment at 9:05 is why you lose elections, and why you are what’s wrong with this country.
Dante on November 8, 2012 at 9:08 AM
Then how do you explain the fact that I vote GOP? I was a Loosertarian once. I have worked the polls for the Loosertarian Party. I sat on a discussion panel during the MD state convention. I entertained the state party president in my home. And I voted for Romney in order to unseat Obooba this year. And I don’t think I’m the only one. So admit you’re wrong.
You cannot say that you voted for Gary Johnson to unseat Obooba. You can say that you voted for Gary Johnson because you thought a windmill was a giant.
Akzed on November 8, 2012 at 9:09 AM
It does have to be done the hard way. The easy way would be to stick with the same tired old party and tired old leadership we have that and just keep blindly voting for them, hoping something will change “this time.” They have generally failed to oppose socialism in an effective way since the Reagan years.
It’s time for a change.
Doomberg on November 8, 2012 at 9:09 AM
Because you’re a Republican. Once is a statement of past tense, you know.
Dante on November 8, 2012 at 9:10 AM
Huh. And how many Loosertarian Party nominees have gotten more than 1.something of the presidential vote? Are you so stupid that you dodn’t see that question coming?!
Answer this:
1. How long will it take for a third place party to become as large as the GOP?
2. As the third place party grows and continually drains votes from the GOP, how many Democrats will get elected?
3. If it takes, say twenty years for the third place party to take the place of the GOP size-wise, will the press be ignoring it or treating it exactly the same as it does the GOP now?
Akzed on November 8, 2012 at 9:13 AM
The Republican Party will be in power in 4 years so long as it has a rational nominating procedure and picks a minority or woman as presidential candidate or VP candidate and so long as each GOP Congressional candidate is vetted with a number of questions, including:
1. Do you believe a woman who has become pregnant as a result of a rape should have access to abortion?
2. Have you ever had an affair which has not been disclosed?
The public will not elect a party which has no empathy or is run by lying hypocrites.
Unfortunately, the new GOP president will be dealing with 22 trillion dollar debt, an economy in recession, 20% unemployment, a Middle East in flames and al Qaeda on the run – toward us.
Basilsbest on November 8, 2012 at 9:17 AM
I am proof that you are wrong. I realized that voting for Ron Paul was futile, and switched to a party that could make a difference as opposed to a party that is wholly irrelevant – save for taking 1.something% of the vote from the party most closely aligned to them.
Since I voted for Ron Paul in 1988, Republicans have won three presidential elections, keeping Michale Dukakis, Al Gore, and John Kerry out of office. George W. Bush and George H. W. Bush were not my favorite candidates, but they sure beat the alternatives.
Third parties are like the vanity press. Someone can publish his book at his own expense, sell no copies, but say “I’m a writer” at parties.
Akzed on November 8, 2012 at 9:19 AM
Third Party = Permanent Democrat Majority = One Party Rule = Socialist Government.
Basilsbest on November 8, 2012 at 9:22 AM
THIS is a much better representation of the TEA PARTY..
lovingmyUSA on November 8, 2012 at 9:25 AM
See that WSJ article I linked to above. Parliamentary systems force coalitions between disparate parties. Our two party system forms coalitions within each party.
In our system a third party is like a radical party in a parliamentary system that refuses to join coalitions to share power.
How much influence do they have sitting on the sidelines electing themselves to three seats in parliament so their little circle jerk can feel pure and superior to the “sellouts”?
Third place parties are like garage bands who make music no one wants to hear because they don’t want to “sell out” and make too much money. Their skanky girlfriends and closest neighbors are their only audience.
Akzed on November 8, 2012 at 9:26 AM
How are you proof that I’m wrong? You’ve just admitted to being a Republican. You never were libertarian; you’ve always been a Republican. So instead of being a libertarian who voted Republican, you are a Republican who voted for the Libertarian candidate one time only.
Keep making my point.
Dante on November 8, 2012 at 9:27 AM
JOOS!!!! RAWN PAULL!!!!
wargamer6 on November 8, 2012 at 9:31 AM
Oh, wow, you know me so much better than I know myself? I’m like the married guy who leaves his family after twenty years because “I was always gay.”
Ok genius, before that I was a Democrat who voted for Jimmy Carter and John Anderson before I went Loosertrian. In your view, at that time I was really a Loosertarian because I eventually became one.
But mirabile dictu, at the same time, although I didn’t realize it at the time, I was also a latent Republican too!
You’ve diagnosed me as a chimera!!!!
Akzed on November 8, 2012 at 9:32 AM
LOL. Keep making my point.
Dante on November 8, 2012 at 9:33 AM
“La la la la la, I can’t hear you, la la la la la…” -Dante
Akzed on November 8, 2012 at 9:34 AM
So instead of being a PATRIOT, you sat in your basement and whined about supporting a loser….and now you THINK you can smugly say that we lost because we arent all libertarians. You are more than a loser…you are a traitor to all those who fought to preserve this country.
“Had everybody who voted for Romney instead voted for Ron Paul…Paul would have lost and Obama would still be the emperor. Had every Romney vote instead have been cast for Gary Johnson…Our collective Johnson would be at half-mast and Obama would still be the Emperor….
We need a platform solid enough as to not be chipped away at by those who will, to their very last mirror fogging breath, adhere to their one and only possible candidate tighter than a hemorrhoid to a vinyl seat cover at a nudist colony.”
lovingmyUSA on November 8, 2012 at 9:46 AM
How Stalinist of you.
Dante on November 8, 2012 at 9:52 AM
Bullshit. You’re done, Herman. Sit down.
ExpressoBold on November 8, 2012 at 9:59 AM
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