Pennsylvania: It’s all down to turnout
To reverse a 24-year trend of presidential Democrats winning Pennsylvania, Romney needs to match or outperform Bush in the four Philadelphia suburban counties, all of which Bush lost except for Chester County in 2004.
Romney also needs high turnout on the western side of the state, where conservative, blue-collar, white voters make up much of the voting demographic. That was largely how Republican Pat Toomey narrowly beat Democrat Joe Sestak for the U.S. Senate seat in 2010.
Perhaps to Romney’s benefit, one of the few hot races in Pennsylvania has been out west. The state’s only real competitive U.S. House race is the 12th District outside Pittsburgh. Western Pennsylvania also gets some bleed-over from the overwhelming attention both the Romney and Obama campaigns have paid Ohio.
Lara Brown, a political science professor at Villanova University, said there is a chance Romney squeaks out a 1- or 2-point win in Pennsylvania, provided certain geographic scenarios go his way. That narrow opening appears to be why the Romney team suddenly is investing time and money in Pennsylvania in the campaign’s final days…
In 2008, Obama received close to 600,000 votes in Philadelphia. In 2010, Sestak, the Democrat who lost to Toomey, received just over 350,000 from the city.









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Obama’s peeps might like Obamaphones, but they won’t turnout like they did in 2008.
blatantblue on November 4, 2012 at 9:52 PM
I’ll be helping with a campaign for the first time in my life. A win here in PA would be a knockout blow and sweet sweet justice.
thebrokenrattle on November 4, 2012 at 9:54 PM
The GOP took back two House seats in these counties in 2010 that it lost in 2006. Gerlach (Chesco/Montco) held on to his all the time. There is no real competition for thess seats this year.
The senate race has unspiring Junior Casey vs. self-made man Tom Smith.
This makes it easier to the burbs to just pull the GOP lever; no reason to ticket-split.
Wethal on November 4, 2012 at 9:58 PM
It would be nice to have my vote actually make a difference this year in PA. Barring handcuffing by UN voting monitors and billy-club beatings from Black Panther scum, I will proudly cast my vote for Romney and for my beloved ciountry on Tuesday.
Suck it Obama.
fogw on November 4, 2012 at 10:02 PM
The difference this time around is we got Obama. Worst clusterfark of a miserable failure since Carter.
John the Libertarian on November 4, 2012 at 10:02 PM
I’m pretty sure you mean a stuttering clusterfark.
WesternActor on November 4, 2012 at 10:06 PM
On election night, Romney will need to win three of the four following counties and barely lose the fourth: Bucks, Montgomery, Chester, and Delaware(the Philly suburbs). Other counties to look out for:
Philadelphia: Obama got 470,000 votes from Killadelphia in 2008. Romney will need to take over 20% of the vote here to win the state.
Lehigh/Northampton(Lehigh Valley): Both barely went Kerry in 04 but were big for Obama in 08. Mix of heavily minority cities Allentown and Bethlehem, monied suburban areas, and old farming areas. Romney will need narrow wins in both.
Luzerne/Lackawanna: Biggest counties in northeast PA, containing the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton metro. Luzerne went from Kerry squeaker to Obama romp, while Lackawanna was a Dem rout in both years. Romney needs at least 48% in the former and 40% in the latter.
Allegheny: Pittsburgh, the other main Dem vote machine has trended red in recent years and even went for Corbett in 2010. Romney just needs 44% here to win the state.
Cornell Conservative on November 4, 2012 at 10:07 PM
PA returns link:http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=12&ElectionID=53
Cornell Conservative on November 4, 2012 at 10:08 PM
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blatantblue on November 4, 2012 at 10:12 PM
Yes, indeed. And I’d like to use the stronger form of fark, but civility won’t allow me.
John the Libertarian on November 4, 2012 at 10:25 PM
I too live in PA and I am very excited at the prospect that my vote is very important. Not only might it help deliver the presidency to Romney, but maybe the majority of the senate. Very cool.
Go Smith, Go Romney.
Darksean on November 4, 2012 at 10:25 PM
I’m hopeful, though not optimistic about PA. But if PA is close, Romney should win overall.
SAZMD on November 4, 2012 at 10:28 PM
You have been pushing the fringe as we near the election, young man. There are those here I look to for civility and demeanor. You’re one of them.
hawkdriver on November 4, 2012 at 10:35 PM
I think what is going on here is that the pollsters are afraid to really call it like they see it on the surface for fear of undue influence but the answers lie in the internals of the polls.
For example, a CNN poll tonight says Romney/Obama are tied. But if you look inside at the data, they show Romney +22 with independent voters and getting 99% of the Republican vote. They way they reach a “tie” is to oversample Democrats by 11 points.
What this does is creates a poll that says “it’s a dead heat” in the headline and in the RCP average but inside the data says “we might see a Romney blowout here”. They are telling the campaigns what is really going on deep in the data inside the poll but are basically stepping away from saying that on the headline for fear of creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. If that CNN poll is correct in the internals and if the electorate is R+1 as Gallup expects, then it is a double-digit blowout for Romney on election night.
If the pollster were to come out and say “We think it is going to be Romney by 10+ and going away”, the other campaign is going to be very, very angry with them.
I believe this election is Romney by AT LEAST 6 points. That is if he gets 91% of the Republican vote like McCain did in 2008. If he gets 93% like Bush did in 2004, it is 10 points. Add two points of victory for every point over 88% that Romney wins. I say this because a poll with a resonable D/R/I had Romney +9 with independents but still tied. They way they did that is to say Romney was only going to get 88% of the Republican vote and that Obama’s support among Republicans has risen since 2008. I don’t believe that for a femtosecond. For every point above 88%, take a point away from Obama and give one to Romney for two points of margin for every point of crossover that goes away.
We are looking like we could very well have a blowout here.
crosspatch on November 4, 2012 at 10:39 PM
I will strive to live up to those ideals. I’ve never been so emotionally invested in an election as with this one.
John the Libertarian on November 4, 2012 at 10:53 PM
I delivered papers for the Morning Call in Allentown so I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that their analysis is spot on. Go R&R!!!
dookphan on November 4, 2012 at 11:04 PM
It all comes down to turn out? Duh?
guido911 on November 4, 2012 at 11:12 PM
Gravis has it tied as well, with R beating 0 by 18 points with indys.
wargamer6 on November 4, 2012 at 11:19 PM
Well, if anecdotal reports from my friends and family in eastern PA are worth anything, the state will go to Romney. I don’t know why it seems so unfathomable to the talking heads that PA could go red anyway; I’ve predicted this for the last two years. Union influence in the state has been waning for some time and outside of the Philly area, Pennsylvanians by and large more resemble the folks from the South than your typical northeastern types. They routinely elect Republicans to other offices so I don’t see why they wouldn’t vote one into the White House! That it’s been 24 years since the last time they did so (my first experience with volunteering on a presidential campaign, BTW, and not only did we deliver the state for Poppa Bush, but also our very blue Lehigh County — we were rewarded with an invite to the inauguration) does not mean it couldn’t happen again. Think about the candidates the GOP has run since then, and think about the opponents they’ve been up against. Clinton would be hard to beat in a state like PA, for example. No surprise he won twice. There hasn’t been this big of a SCOAMF on the Dem ticket since Carter. Pennsylvanians aren’t stupid, and I believe they WILL turn out on Tuesday. Everyone I know there is FIRED UP. That’s really all we need.
NoLeftTurn on November 4, 2012 at 11:52 PM
Romney wins Bucks and cuts margins in Montgomery and Delaware big.
WPA and CPA will be woodshed.
Romney wins PA.
forest on November 4, 2012 at 11:53 PM
It all depends on repub turnout and dem burnout.
tommy71 on November 5, 2012 at 7:26 AM
It won’t go for Romney if the Black Panther’s have their say, as they did in 2008. Of course our current Attorney General did not prosecute the damn thugs. He did not see anything ………… Just like he did not see anything wrong with the “Fast and Furious” scandal.
SC.Charlie on November 5, 2012 at 8:53 AM