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Romney on his Olympics comments: “I tend to tell people what I actually believe”
“You know, I was referring to press reports before I even got to London that suggested that the organizing committee was having some challenges,” said Romney.
“I was there for two days,” he added. “The games were carried out without a hitch. So, as far as I’m able to tell, despite the challenges as any organizing committee faces, they were able to organize games that have been so far so good, picture perfect.”
“I tend to tell people what I actually believe,” said Romney when asked if he would want to change his words if he could go back and answer the questions again.
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Terrye on July 29, 2012 at 5:50 PM
Unlike you, I’m actually a small business owner. From a business perspective, I know that Romney understands business.
You don’t even know what the hell a corporate fascist is. Here’s a hint: there is no such thing. A fascist supports state control via national pride. Fascists hate international trade.
Corporations want as broad a market as they can muster so that they can sell product far and wide. But being the putz you are, you can’t understand that. You don’t own a business. Do you even work? If so, is it for an evil corporation? Either way, you’re a slave to the man, buddy, whether you’re taking your monthly government cheese or whether you’re creating profit for the company.
Tell me: does this Gary Johnson fellow share your views? Because your views are repugnant.
beatcanvas on July 29, 2012 at 5:50 PM
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Honestly, a lot of these folks will be happy to see Obama re-elected..that way they can say I told you so. All they care about is being right. Or at least their idea of right.
To hear them tell it..Romney has to be on board with the NRA 100% or he is going to come in the dead of night to take your guns…Romney either has to have been pro life forever and ever or he is lying to get elected..never mind the fact that most Americans have come to the pro life side in recent years. Their views have in fact changed over time. Normal people do change from time to time..but if you are pure and true already,any change is seen as betrayal.
Terrye on July 29, 2012 at 5:55 PM
Hey, I’m just fighting for what I believe in, whatever the result, however you are engaging in some wishful thinking: since I started supporting Gary Johnson there have been several other HA commentators who have indicated they intent to vote for him as well.
FloatingRock on July 29, 2012 at 5:55 PM
OK, Ralph Nader. I stand by my comment that you’re a moron.
The Count on July 29, 2012 at 6:00 PM
In the entire history of the Libertarian Party (and I know, because I voted for Harry Browne in 2000) that Party’s Presidential candidate has only drawn more than 0.5% of the vote once, and that was 32 years ago.
And that candidate only got 1.1%.
Sorry, but your vote for Johnson is a vote for O’bama. But you’re the only one who doesn’t see that.
Del Dolemonte on July 29, 2012 at 6:00 PM
You are apparently unaware that fascism is when the means of production is privately owned but controlled by the central government, (for example the Romneycare and Obamacare mandates), whereas socialism is when the means of production is both owned and controlled by the central authority, (which Obamacare would have been if Obama had used a single-payer type system instead of copying Romney’s fascist model).
FloatingRock on July 29, 2012 at 6:06 PM
And this is relevant to my comment how?
The first priority is to get 0bama out of office. Failure to do that is the most immediate danger to the Republic.
I’ve been libertarian longer than most of you probably have been alive.
Expecting things to magically go “Libertarian” isn’t realistic. I wish it was, but it isn’t going to happen this election.
So first we slow the slide.
Then we work on turning things around.
It isn’t fast. It isn’t easy. But we can do it, just as all the Libbies/Lefties/Proggies have done over the past decades.
Failure to recognize that reality only makes it more likely that we will be living in a Marxist Wonderland.
Reality sucks, but there it is. Deal with it.
ProfShadow on July 29, 2012 at 6:11 PM
Actually a vote for Obama is a vote for Obama. A vote for someone else, or simply not voting at all, is obviously not a vote for Obama.
Simple really, why do you Mittbots have such trouble understanding this. If someone stays home, Obama’s total number of votes doesn’t change. Period. Quit trying to bully people for not wanting to vote for Mittens the Severely Progressive.
Buckshot Bill on July 29, 2012 at 6:12 PM
All you are doing is rewarding the Rinos for being nominated, you aren’t slowing anything down or turning the country back in the right direction. You are just making it easier for the Rinos to win the nomination again, and continue to push everything towards liberalism. The only way to start moving the GOP back towards conservatism is to stop voting for GOP Rinos by default.
Buckshot Bill on July 29, 2012 at 6:14 PM
So this is just another election, then? Nothing much different about this one than the rest? Obama is just another Democrat and Romney just another run of the will Republican?
But weren’t other Romney supporters in this same thread, (or was it another thread), just saying earlier that there is “a clear and present danger” to America? They indicated that this election is very much different than the rest.
If Obama is a clear and present danger, then obviously so is Romney. Unlike the other two, Gary supports the 2nd amendment, and not just because he’s running for President with a letter R next to his name, Gary has always been a 2nd amendment supporter.
If you ask me, it’s gun grabbers like Obama and Romney that are the clear and present danger. So I disagree with you, Del, this isn’t just a ho-hum election, same as all the rest. Freedom and Liberty is under attack by both sides and has already been harmed. This is a crucial election in which authoritarian corporatists that disregard the Constitution and Bill of Rights have taken over both parties, and now more than ever before since the inception of the Republican Party, it is crucial that we once again vote 3rd party to save America.
FloatingRock on July 29, 2012 at 6:16 PM
You are either a liar, or really, really dumb.
nottakingsides on July 29, 2012 at 6:18 PM
You should read the definition:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fascism
Ponder that for a bit.
But granting you your point, what means of production does Massachusetts control? It doesn’t. It grants access to services created by privately owned corporations by using taxpayer money and mandating that you spend your own money, but none of that has anything to do with production.
I am no fan of Romneycare, but it ain’t corporate fascism. You just like to throw out words that are scary to you, like “corporate” and “fascism.” I suppose when you link two of them together, they’re just twice as scary, eh?
Romney is not the perfect nominee, but he’s more perfect than Gary Frickin’ Johnson insomuch as he can actually get elected.
beatcanvas on July 29, 2012 at 6:18 PM
That may be your first priority but my first priority is to fight for freedom and liberty again fascist douche-bags like Obama, Romney and Bloomberg, just to mention three of the worst.
FloatingRock on July 29, 2012 at 6:19 PM
UK regarding Olympics in weeks leading up to opening day: bitchbitchbitchbitchwhinewhinewhine
Romney regarding Olympics: It seems they might be having some trouble based on what I’ve read.
UK regarding Romney on the Olympics: HOW DARE YOU OMG
That about sums up this nontroversy.
tdpwells on July 29, 2012 at 6:26 PM
Reagan spent two decades being the finest voice of the conservative movement before he got into the White House, and even as a Democrat he managed to avoid signing socialized medicine into law. Your comparisons suck.
MadisonConservative on July 29, 2012 at 6:33 PM
Your use of “fascist” isn’t helping your argument.
I find this interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Gary_Johnson
I like most of what I read. The problem is that same proverbial dilemma, restated: if Gary Johnson ran for president but didn’t attract enough people to him to make him viable in an election for president, would votes for him make any difference?
Answer: only to the degree that they subtracted from votes that might have otherwise have gone to a more electable candidate.
You and Gary haven’t sold his electability, therefore he’s not worth considering.
beatcanvas on July 29, 2012 at 6:36 PM
So your understanding of fascism is based on a tiny little entry in an online dictionary? It’s no wonder, then, that you were unaware that the difference between socialism and fascism is that fascism is more “capitalist”, (by your standards), because corporations are still privately owned, whereas under the socialist model they are owned by the central government.
Under a socialist healthcare model the government owns the hospitals and pays all the bills, while under a fascist healthcare model hospitals are privately owned but the government dictates to its
citizenssubjects that they have to buy insurance from the crooked insurance companies that purchased our corrupt government with cold hard cash and other favors.FloatingRock on July 29, 2012 at 6:39 PM
Yeah – you’ll have to forgive me for using common definitions when trying to understand your eloquent and robust diatribes.
My definition comes from historical examples, such as Mussolini, who established entire towns for agricultural production and did all in the name of the Fatherland.
Somehow, and you’ll have to forgive me here because I just don’t see it, that doesn’t look like Mitt.
Was Mitt too clever by half? Yes. A fascist? Hardly.
beatcanvas on July 29, 2012 at 6:47 PM
Mussolini made the trains run on time, so they say, but his people could choose weather or not to ride them. If Mussolini had ever considered forcing everybody to ride them whether they wanted to or not, like the Romneycare mandate does with regard to healthcare, he probably dismissed it as being too offensive that might elicit a reaction and thus threaten his regime.
Hence Romney was only a one term governor who was so unpopular he didn’t even bother running again.
FloatingRock on July 29, 2012 at 6:54 PM
I’m not picking a fight but, unfortunately, that ship sailed with FDR. There is no “saving” any more. Now it’s just a matter of speed. It stinks, but that’s where we are. I’ve posted before:
We live in interesting times.
If Obama wins, it will prove to the powers that be that Romney wasn’t liberal enough to win and we’ll get even more liberal (R)s as future presidential candidates.
If Romney wins, it will reinforce the idea that (R) candidates should be more liberal to win, and we’ll get even more liberal (R)s as future presidential candidates.
They’ve got us. Vote your conscience, but those are the results. Take your pick.
I guess it could be argued by anti-Obama/pro-US types that promoting Obama’s reelection could be seen as the best way to bankrupt/collapse the US so that a new system can be established a bit sooner than will happen under the (R)s. Is that “saving America”? The idea, at least? Maybe, I guess.
Is it the best way to do it?
Who knows.
rogerb on July 29, 2012 at 6:56 PM
That’s totally unacceptable to me. Even if in the end you turn out to be right, I’m going to fight for freedom and liberty until the end.
FloatingRock on July 29, 2012 at 6:59 PM
They who? His agricultural towns failed miserably.
Part of your problem in selling your argument is that you make up crap out of whole cloth. You come across unbelievable for your hyperbole and manufactured statements.
Nobody accused Mussolini of creating an effective government.
Weather? You scoff at my use of a dictionary reference when you clearly need one at your side. It’s “whether,” not “weather.” More reasons not to take you seriously.
Again, more crap pulled straight out of nowhere. You make up your arguments. You’re ineffective.
Here comes your big sell, your big conclusion…
That’s it? You go from a manufactured supposition about Mussolini to insinuating that Romney was somehow worse than an Italian dictator, so bad was he, Mitt Romney, that the people of Massachusetts couldn’t elect him twice??
By god, you’ve proven that salient point you’ve sought to make after all this time. Mitt Romney was more atrocious than Benito Mussolini. Yes. Yes! I was blind but now I see!
No wonder you gave yourself the moniker “Floating Rock” – you make the impossible possible! Physics and logic and definitions be damned!
beatcanvas on July 29, 2012 at 7:06 PM
If you haven’t, read about the change in how federalism/the Constitution was viewed around the New Deal.
Fwiw, I would never criticize anyone, left or right, for voting their conscience. God bless America that we can.
rogerb on July 29, 2012 at 7:08 PM
Well, after his “I like to fire people”comment, I gotta believe him.
Red Creek on July 29, 2012 at 7:08 PM
Well of course they did, statism has always failed, but they never stop trying. That’s why I oppose statists like Obama, Romney and Bloomberg, of course.
FloatingRock on July 29, 2012 at 7:22 PM
Your attempt at humor aside, the fact remains that Romney was the first American politician to enact a fascist healthcare program, which Obama copied.
FloatingRock on July 29, 2012 at 7:27 PM
Why it matters:
http://goo.gl/uZqow
If you can’t find your way to vote for Romney to oust 0bama and his cadre, then fine.
At least your vote won’t be for 0bama, even if you don’t vote for Romney.
In effect, your vote is a nothing vote. A vote that won’t matter. A protest, noted, but signifying nothing in terms of America’s future.
It is a shame that Johnson, a former Republican, couldn’t make his case to be the Republican nominee, as he sought originally before dropping out of the primary race. But he did.
ProfShadow on July 29, 2012 at 10:41 PM
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