Romney’s timidity on court’s immigration ruling
A few hours later, with Romney in Arizona for fundraising events, spokesman Rick Gorka met reporters on board the candidate’s plane. What followed was an excruciating back-and-forth in which the reporters pressed Gorka to say whether Romney agreed or disagreed with the decision. Gorka wouldn’t go along. “The governor believes the states have the rights to craft their own immigration laws, especially when the federal government has failed to do so,” Gorka said. But did Romney have a specific reaction to the Arizona decision? The spokesman wouldn’t say, no matter how many times the question was asked. …
In Romney’s defense, Arizona v. United States was a difficult decision for both sides to digest, because it sent a profoundly mixed message. On the one hand, the court said clearly that the “show me your papers” provision can go into effect. If there is some sort of problem once it is in practice — and there will inevitably be allegations of profiling — then the courts can consider those. But for now, it’s OK. …
On the other hand, in striking down other provisions of the law, the court sent a clear message that states cannot pass their own immigration measures even if those measures do not conflict with federal law. “After this ruling, there is very little that states can do to try to make up for ineffective federal enforcement of immigration laws,” says former Scalia clerk Ed Whalen. “While there was a lot of controversy over ['show me your papers'], it doesn’t confer any authority the states didn’t already have.”
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There were plenty of people I would have preferred to Romney too. But, the difference between you and me is that you would rather sulk like a child through November instead of taking up the fight against the most tyrannical president in this country’s history.
The Count on June 26, 2012 at 10:16 AM
Oh, I get it. So, the man who will “take up the fight”
against the most tyrannical President in this country’s
history, said what yesterday about Immigration??
You are correct in stating that we need to take up the fight
against this President. I don’t know what you heard yesterday
from our nominee….I heard a man afraid of his own shadow.
ToddPA on June 26, 2012 at 10:24 AM
I’m going to ask you the same question I’ve asked ddrintn twice and still haven’t received an answer. Read Romney’s statement in my 9:19 AM post, then tell us what you would have preferred he say differently.
Flora Duh on June 26, 2012 at 10:26 AM
As opposed to someone who is still whining and complaining about “bitter Palin clingers” even though she’s been effectively off the political scene since her announcement last year?
Also, I have never said I wouldn’t vote for Romney. So what exactly are you complaining about? Are you mad that I’m not donating all my earthly posessions to your object of worship?
Doomberg on June 26, 2012 at 10:27 AM
So, aside from the bluster, they both say immigration laws need to be enforced. Moron.
The Count on June 26, 2012 at 10:23 AM
So her statement (you can re-read what you typed)
is Bluster?? Seriously??
Now re-read the last word you typed.
ToddPA on June 26, 2012 at 10:28 AM
I told you I haven’t gathered her immigration stance from her TV appearances. You send me her facebook post.
But, I must confess, I usually can’t make it all the way through her screechy cliched interviews. I just can’t listen to stupid people speak for very long. Obama is the same way.
The Count on June 26, 2012 at 10:29 AM
I’ll answer your question. I would like Romney or any pol to say that if they are president they will issue an order to have all illegals rounded up and deported immediately, and then follow through and actually do it. Is that plain enough for you?
bgibbs1000 on June 26, 2012 at 10:31 AM
Yes and yes.
Yes, and it applies to you too.
The Count on June 26, 2012 at 10:33 AM
Nice to see all the Obots, Paululans and Palinistas frothing at the keyboard right on cue. Pavlov would be proud!
dmann on June 26, 2012 at 10:34 AM
And which candidate who didn’t get the GOP nomination was going to say that?
Rational Thought on June 26, 2012 at 10:34 AM
I only bring her up because she is the common denominator between all of you crazies still complaining about Romney. As Palin would tell you, “buck up or stay in the truck”.
The Count on June 26, 2012 at 10:38 AM
Pssst, Mitt:
I seem to remember a case where Federal officials in Washington didn’t want to hear about some Muslim immigrants in Arizona taking lessons at flight schools and only being interested in flying – not taking off or landing. It might be racist to look into what they were doing.
It turned out that they were illegally in the country. Of course, we didn’t learn about one of them — Hani Hanjour — until after he crashed American Airlines Flight 77 into the Pentagon killing 189 people. On the bright side, he killed less people than Obama & Holder’s Fast & Furious programme.
You might want to remind the public of that fact.
Resist We Much on June 26, 2012 at 10:38 AM
Leave poor Mittins alone!!!!
*wipes tear*
idesign on June 26, 2012 at 10:38 AM
Well genius, none, and that’s the problem. I’m through with nice, through with get along, through with compassion, because unlike you I want my county back. So quit making excuses for Romney and show the rest of us where he’s going to help us get our country back.
bgibbs1000 on June 26, 2012 at 10:39 AM
I agree with you, except that I am not going to rely on Romney to make changes. I am going to keep in contact with my congressman and senators and make sure they know what I expect them to do. Romney’s squishiness can be used for good. If there is overwhelming citizen opinion, (like the last time the GOP tried to do immigration reform) Romney is not going to go against that. It’s up to us to make it loud and clear what we expect from all of them, not just Romney.
Night Owl on June 26, 2012 at 10:40 AM
Thank you. At least you’re intellectually honest enough to offer your view point.
Oh and before you get snarky with me again, you might want to know that I’m not a rah rah Romney supporter. What I am is realistic enough to know that my preferred candidate didn’t make the cut, Romney did, and is our only choice against the boy king.
I’m just sick of reading the constant whining of ddrintn and Pragmatic in almost every friggin’ thread related to Romney.
We get it, they don’t like Romney nor trust him. Guess what? I don’t either. But I’ll be damned if I’m going take a chance on my grandkids having to grow up in Obama’s Amerika.
Coming here and whining like a little kid who didn’t get their way will not change the minds of those who have already decided to vote for Romney over the boy king.
Actually it makes them look as petulant and childish as the boy king does.
Flora Duh on June 26, 2012 at 10:44 AM
I think that it is pretty clear that Romney is not a hard core anti-illegal immigration candidate. I think that’s been clear since the beginning, despite his supporters protestations to the contrary about a year ago. Not that is anything wrong with that, as far as I’m concerned. The bigger issue for me is that a year ago, when going after Perry, he was a hypocrite and acted like he was some anti-immigrant stalwart. He wasn’t and he’s not. He’s a hypocrite who will say anything to get elected, so we have no clue what he would do as President. Unfortunately, he’s the only option, really, left against Obama. So, like Obama’s and Pelosi’s Obamacare bill, we are expected to vote for the candidate (bill) before we can see what’s in it.
besser tot als rot on June 26, 2012 at 10:45 AM
Pssst, Mitt:
I seem to remember a case where Federal officials in Washington didn’t want to hear about some Muslim immigrants in Arizona taking lessons at flight schools and only being interested in flying – not taking off or landing. It might be racist to look into what they were doing.
It turned out that they were illegally in the country. Of course, we didn’t learn about one of them — Hani Hanjour — until after he crashed American Airlines Flight 77 into the Pentagon killing 189 people. On the bright side, he killed less people than Obama & Holder’s Fast & Furious programme.
You might want to remind the public of that fact.
Resist We Much on June 26, 2012 at 10:38 AM
Well folks. Here we have our THREAD WINNER.
If anyone from the Romney Campaign is reading this website
take note. THIS IS WHAT RALLIES THE AMERICAN VOTER TO YOUR
CAMPAIGN. This is what INSPIRES citizens to think that you
actaully give a damn about us.
Well done Resist We Much.
ToddPA on June 26, 2012 at 10:45 AM
^THIS^
Flora Duh on June 26, 2012 at 10:46 AM
Still can’t let go of blaming Palin, can you? It couldn’t possibly be because many Republicans feel strongly about immigration as an issue, it must be because PALIN!
Welcome to the real world, where Romney is going to get criticized for his policy positions. Instead of putting your hands over ears and screaming “PALIN!!!” like some kind of mantra, you’re going to have to learn to grow a thick skin and take criticism like an adult.
Doomberg on June 26, 2012 at 10:47 AM
Ok ddrintn and Pragmatic, one more time. Tell us what you would have had Romney say differently than he did in this statement.
Either put up or shut up!
Flora Duh on June 26, 2012 at 10:54 AM
What he said isn’t the problem. The problem is what he said this time in context with what he was saying a year ago. And, if you want something good that he should have said how about this:
besser tot als rot on June 26, 2012 at 11:06 AM
How has that worked out for you the last few decades?
bgibbs1000 on June 26, 2012 at 11:06 AM
Now, you are going to make me go all Sally Field on you. “You like me! You really, really like me!”
My very first “thread winner”! LOL!
Seriously, thanks and, if the Romney campaign has any sense and balls, they will play that card fast and furiously. You’ll recall that Democrats never failed to blame Bush for the fact that Washington didn’t listen to the FBI agent in Arizona when, in fact, Hanjour attended the flight schools in Arizona between 1996 and 1999. It was Jaime Gorelick’s “Wall” and Bill Clinton’s PC administration that made sure that no background cheques were ever done.
Resist We Much on June 26, 2012 at 11:07 AM
That if elected president he will deport immediately all illegals, enforce all immigration laws on the books and govern the country according to the constitution. That’s a start.
bgibbs1000 on June 26, 2012 at 11:09 AM
Ehibit #68,236 on why Romney sucks.
Norwegian on June 26, 2012 at 11:11 AM
I hate to admit it, but I didn’t do that the past few decades. I thought I was doing enough by just voting. I bet I am not alone in that either. If I have learned anything the past 3.5 years, it is that you have to be the squeeky wheel unless you want something like Obama to happen again.
Night Owl on June 26, 2012 at 11:16 AM
I agree with RWM, usually always do.
The point I’m trying to make is that ddrintn and Pragmatic hit the Romney threads, commence with their moaning and groaning, but when asked what they would prefer to do be said or done differently, they never answer.
That shows to me that their sole purpose of showing up in the Romney threads is to piss and moan just for the sake of pissing and moaning.
They’re free to do so of course. But they shouldn’t act surprised or indignant when they get called out for it.
Flora Duh on June 26, 2012 at 11:16 AM
I wrote this eruption last evening. You might find it interesting:
A Fair Warning To Those Promoting Open Borders, Amnesty, & Free Immigration
It will be interesting to see how immigration plays out in the US.
Resist We Much on June 26, 2012 at 11:30 AM
Nothing on the SC ruling, but great lady, what happened yesterday after the ruling was lung-stopping.
1. Obama had Napolitano effectively split from the union on severing help to process illegals.
2. Obama had the gov’t set up an e-mail and v-mail to report nonsensical myriad of cases for nonsensical lawsuits against AZ
…and Mitt and team said nada, nada, nadaaaasaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!
Even the hapless McCain was enraged last night on Greta.
This thread is most disappointing, from the right.
Schadenfreude on June 26, 2012 at 11:48 AM
RWM, you are a rare current national treasure to the USA, a light in a very muddled tunnel.
Schadenfreude on June 26, 2012 at 11:49 AM
Flora Duh on June 26, 2012 at 11:16 AM | Delete | Delete and Ban
Agree with this too.
Schadenfreude on June 26, 2012 at 11:51 AM
The screwball Condi Rice last night on Greta “…ahhhh, my biggest regret is that we didn’t pass the big amnesty under GWB, with McCain, Kennedy and Sen. Obama…ahhhh the poor foregn students who can’t work here, legally, then stay here illegally…ahhhh…the Muslim Brotherhood having won in Egypt is good…now for democracy in action…bla, bla, bla” paraphrased.
If she’s vying for the VP slot, which she heavily seems to do, we’re even more scroomed than it appears.
Schadenfreude on June 26, 2012 at 11:54 AM
Correction
1. Obama had Napolitano effectively split Arizona from the union on severing help to process illegals.
Schadenfreude on June 26, 2012 at 11:55 AM
Two words.
Meg Whitman.
Don’t open a can of worms unless you are ready to eat it.
Obama is the one with the immigration problem.
Not Romney.
The media is desperately trying to lure him into a cliche trap that he doesn’t like brown people.
Now is not the time to cross this bridge.
NeoKong on June 26, 2012 at 12:02 PM
Thanks. I don’t quite feel that way today. There are just too many stupid sheeple in this country. Here I’ve been screaming and showing the scars on my hands warning people for years; yet, they truly believe that I’m lying about the fire being hot. I KNOW how this story ends and it is sooooooo frustrating.
Resist We Much on June 26, 2012 at 12:08 PM
Resist We Much on June 26, 2012 at 12:08 PM
It doesn’t change how you are.
Your realism is fully understood and shared.
Unfortunately there are more sheep than lions in the world. For the US the demise will be self-inflicted, which makes it so much more devastating. A land/people with the highest of all freedoms will self-destruct, by stupidity and by the looters.
It’s not in our nature, but practice some apathy and always look out for yourself. Also, for now, keep fighting, as you do so well.
Schadenfreude on June 26, 2012 at 12:34 PM
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