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Bill Maher: Jesus was a “Palestinian”
BILL MAHER: You are allowed to have your opinion. You’re allowed to have your opinion that a Palestinian 2000 years ago walked on water and did magic tricks and he was really still his own father and all that stuff. That’s fine. You can have whatever opinion you want, and the fact that a billion other people believe it gives you a lot of strength and credence. But I also have the opinion that that’s ridiculous, that it’s anachronistic, this is the 21st century.
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Until Jesus starts indiscriminately firing Katyushas into residential areas, Maher should STFU.
Walter Sobchak on February 28, 2012 at 6:07 PM
i dont disagree. did i ever claimed diferent?
nathor on February 28, 2012 at 6:10 PM
I suppose that is accurate enough, considering that the Palestinians are mostly Jews that converted to Islam. A bit convoluted, but, whatever.
Count to 10 on February 28, 2012 at 6:11 PM
Jesus wasn’t ‘Palestinian’ because there WAS NO ‘Palestine’ at the time he walked the earth.
There’s no palestine now, either.
annoyinglittletwerp on February 28, 2012 at 6:13 PM
Mike OMalley on February 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM
+1
Exactly.
By the way — the original British Mandate that created “Palestine” included Jordan as part of Palestine. So why aren’t the “Palestinians” screaming about getting Jordan back?
It’s a rhetorical question.
The Rogue Tomato on February 28, 2012 at 6:18 PM
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Jesus was a Galilean.
And there was no Palestine 2,000 years ago.
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Everyone has the right to their own opinion but no one has a right to their own facts.
Post-Modernism can make one sound as dumb as a box of rocks, and sometimes even as dumb as Bill Maher.
Mike OMalley on February 28, 2012 at 6:18 PM
Bill Mahar is dumb as sh*..
BoxHead1 on February 28, 2012 at 6:19 PM
The Romans didn’t name the province “Palestine” until 100 years after Jesus’ death. Emperorer Hadrian combined the former provinces of Galilee and Judea into the province “Palestine”. He deliberately chose the name of Israel’s old enemies the Philestines in order to tweak the Jews whose revolt he had just crushed. He also banished all Jews from his new province. Jesus would have been a Galilean and recognized as such.
tommyboy on February 28, 2012 at 6:19 PM
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Because the last time they tried that the Jordanian Army was forced to drive them out of Jordan into Lebanon. Good for Jordan, very very bad for Lebanon.
Mike OMalley on February 28, 2012 at 6:21 PM
yes, lots of love, given to my wife and childreen, not to the void.
for me to understand that Jesus did live, it takes more that others claim of belief. Muslims also believe that mohammad was the prophet of god.
no, for example, compared to the 2nd world war, we live at a boring time.
nathor on February 28, 2012 at 6:22 PM
i dont exactly feel the need to destroy other peoples religion, but I do believe lies should be exposed for the lies that they are.
true morality cannot be built upon lies.
nathor on February 28, 2012 at 6:27 PM
Iran getting nuclear weapons–very boring.
Such ennui.
When the whole planet is glowing and we’re eating insects, that’s when the real fun starts!
vityas on February 28, 2012 at 6:29 PM
wise!
nathor on February 28, 2012 at 6:29 PM
Regardless if you think it was myth or not. The myth was not created “centuries after” his supposed life.
blink on February 28, 2012 at 6:30 PM
John 3:19-20
tommyboy on February 28, 2012 at 6:31 PM
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The Philistines were Greeks, not Arabs, to boot! Moreover, when the Philistine state finally collapsed and dissolved in the 8th or 7th century BC, many if not most of the surviving Philistines had long been practicing forms of what became Judaism and they were then absorb into the surrounding Israeli peoples.
Mike OMalley on February 28, 2012 at 6:31 PM
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Rare and perhaps nonexistent is the sane archaeologist, Biblical scholar or scholar of Antiquity who believes Jesus was a myth.
Mike OMalley on February 28, 2012 at 6:36 PM
compared to cold war doomsday scenarios, does not seem that scary.
again, why is this time more dangerous than the cold war era?
nathor on February 28, 2012 at 6:36 PM
Yeah, riiiiiiiiiiight!!
Whenever I want clarification of a religious subject, I always seek out a foul-mouthed, atheist “comedian”!!!
/SARC>!!!
Why is HotAir still wasting bandwidth on this idiot??? Can we have a “Maher Filter” for HotAir???
landlines on February 28, 2012 at 6:39 PM
Do you believe that Mohammad existed?
blink on February 28, 2012 at 6:40 PM
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Because unlike the Soviet thugs, the Iranian Twelvers are non-rational escatological thinkers, throwbacks to a archaic world of the Sacred.
Mike OMalley on February 28, 2012 at 6:41 PM
Because most people gave (and give) the Russians credit for being sane, rational people who understand the lunacy of initiating a doomsday scenario. This assumption was the foundation of the strategy of Mutually Assured Destruction (“MAD”) which prevailed during the cold war. Yeah, we had the Cuban Missle crises but it was resolved and for the most part MAD worked well. The Iranians are NOT sane, rational people and if they do get nukes it’s inconcievable they won’t use them within 10 years. More likely five.
tommyboy on February 28, 2012 at 6:45 PM
Another atheist vs. Christian thread. Seriously, we can’t all unite around the idea that Bill Maher is a jackass who likes to pretend he’s intelligent by insulting only the people it’s popular to insult?
Esthier on February 28, 2012 at 6:49 PM
This says nothing about the time period of the creation of the myth.
blink on February 28, 2012 at 6:52 PM
I once heard some Hollywood woman comment on Maher: “His idea of a romantic evening is two hookers and an eight ball of cocaine.”
tommyboy on February 28, 2012 at 6:54 PM
I have a feeling that your version of true morality is built upon the conditioning you received by being exposed to random moral bases.
blink on February 28, 2012 at 6:56 PM
Except there isn’t.
Dante on February 28, 2012 at 7:10 PM
yes, because the hadiths describe in hilarious detail how mohammad went to crap in the desert being followed by a young boy with a tumbler of water. I am not joking, those hadiths are real.
nathor on February 28, 2012 at 7:11 PM
better than lies as base.
nathor on February 28, 2012 at 7:14 PM
Yes, they did. Only they were called “Philistines” at the time. The most notable was Goliath who was killed by 5 smooth stones by a young man named David.
nathor, this is for you . . .
David, from the tribe of Judah, went on to be King of the Hebrews (or Israelites who were named after Jacob or Israel). Prophecy of the Messiah being born in the town of Bethlehem was written in Micah 5. Micah was written some time between 745-687 BC (BCE and CE are new designations used by those who want to erase the significance of Christ’s birth). Bethlehem was the birthplace of David from whose lineage came Jesus about 700 years after it was prophecisied.
If Jesus didn’t exist, then the 4 years I studied history while at University was a total waste since I was taught that Jesus was an historical figure. You might want to read the history written by Josephus.
Additionally, nathor, there have only been 2 Temples built in Jerusalem. The first Temple was built by Solomon, son of King David, around 957 BC. It was destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar in 857 BC.
The Second Temple was completed in 516 BC. Herod, during the time of Jesus Christ, did a massive expansion of the Temple (called “Herod’s Temple”). It was destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD. No other Jewish Temple has been built on that site.
The Muslims built the Dome of the Rock around 680 AD on top of the ruins of Herods Temple.
Voter from WA State on February 28, 2012 at 7:30 PM
You need to tell that to my history professors.
Voter from WA State on February 28, 2012 at 7:32 PM
Why is randomness any better than lies?
blink on February 28, 2012 at 7:45 PM
The hadiths used to make stuff up all the time….
blink on February 28, 2012 at 7:46 PM
Except that there is. You might not be convinced by the evidence, but it most certainly exists.
blink on February 28, 2012 at 7:47 PM
Except there isn’t. I know I’m just some random, anonymous guy on the internet, but my degree and career as an archaeologist is just a bit based on what constitutes historical evidence, and matching the historical record to the archeological record.
Dante on February 28, 2012 at 8:11 PM
I would be happy to clear up any confusion on their part.
Dante on February 28, 2012 at 8:12 PM
mohamad might have been an historical person, but its also very well documented how horrible he was. he was but a medieval desert pirate\warlord, who invented a sock puppet called allah and terrorized his subjects into a subservience that would be the envy of any despot.
anyway, i digress. lets talk islam some other time.
nathor on February 28, 2012 at 8:18 PM
if you are inventing the character, you can make up any fiction you want to match the prophecy. that was my point.
anyway, the whole idea of prophesy is as serious as nostradamus. and have prophesy as proof of anything barely amuses the skeptic in me.
I hope all those four years were not studying just jesus.
any way, about josephus:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authenticity_of_the_Testimonium_Flavianum
you corrected me on one thing, indeed no other temple was built, but the holocaust of the 135 CE was partly caused by the desire of jews to rebuilt their temple and their disgust with the plans of building a temple to honor jupiter in the temple mount.
when the rebellion was crushed, this gave more credibility to the messianic jews sect that claimed that the messiah already come, but the jews failed to notice him.
nathor on February 28, 2012 at 8:38 PM
People made stuff up all the time.
blink on February 28, 2012 at 9:42 PM
At least you know something.
And yet you don’t seem to understand it.
blink on February 28, 2012 at 9:47 PM
I do not care who doesn’t believe in Jesus as the SON of GOD. I do believe it, and none of these self inflated brain pans can say anything that convinces me otherwise. I do not wish any ill will toward them either.
44Magnum on February 29, 2012 at 8:15 AM
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