ObamaCare vs. Catholics
The reason liberal Catholics were so wounded is twofold. First, this isn’t a religio-cultural fight over Latin in the Mass or Gregorian chant. The subjects of contraception, abortion, and sterilization are not ornamental aspects of the Catholic faith; they flow from the Church’s central teachings about the dignity of the human person. Second, Obama has left Catholic organizations a very narrow set of options. (1) They may truckle to the government’s mandate, in violation of their beliefs. (2) They may cease providing health insurance to their employees altogether, though this would incur significant financial penalties under Obamacare. (The church seems unlikely to obtain any of Nancy Pelosi’s golden waivers.) Or (3) they may simply shut down. There is precedent for this final option. In 2006, Boston’s Catholic Charities closed its adoption service—one of the most successful in the nation—after Massachusetts law required that the organization must place children in same-sex households.
Which means that what is actually on the block are precisely the kind of social-justice services—education, health care, and aid to the needy—that liberal Catholics believe to be the most vital works of the church. For conservative Catholics, Obama merely confirmed their darkest suspicions; for liberals, it was a betrayal in full…
The other possibility, of course, is that Obama sees the dismantling of Catholic institutions as part of a larger ideological mission, worth losing votes over. As Yuval Levin noted in National Review Online last week, institutions such as the Catholic church represent a mediating layer between the individual and the state. This layer, known as civil society, is one of the principal differences between Western liberal order and the socialist view.









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Monty, I’ll go with door number three: dismantling.
WisRich on February 6, 2012 at 8:39 PM
Obama want to eliminate any institution that competes with the state for loyalty and dependence.
Wethal on February 6, 2012 at 8:39 PM
If the dignity of life was important to the liberal Catholic they would’ve left the democrat party a generation ago.
Flange on February 6, 2012 at 8:40 PM
Obama has the spirit of anti-Christ. Seriously. Not saying he is THE anti-Christ, but according John – anyone who denies the Son, denies the Father as well. Obama and the left’s “communism with a cross” does just that.
abobo on February 6, 2012 at 8:40 PM
Obama is really getting hammered with the whole “Anti Religion” thing recently, isn’t he? I didn’t expect this to catch on! But its another reason why a candidate proud of his religion and not afraid to say so, he can authentically hit Obama on this. I hope people know who I’m talking about here.
vegconservative on February 6, 2012 at 8:43 PM
With the best of intentions, liberals produce the worst of results. Perhaps they should question their ideological intolerance? Nope. Never gonna happen.
John the Libertarian on February 6, 2012 at 8:44 PM
So after O’Bozo bitch-slaps the nitwit-lefty-Catholics-in-name-only with his double-cross, he thinks he’s superspy-clever by going to the National Prayer Breakfast and pretending that he “falls on his knees and prays to Jesus”. Surely the cafeteria Catholics will tear up over this righteousness and the whole kerfuffle will end. Right?
Heh. Someone tell this atheist nitwit that Catholics pray to Mary, not Jesus. That’s Rick Warren, Bill Hybels and the liberal Evangelicals you are mocking, bonehead. Wrong building, wrong floor, wrong hallway.
Jaibones on February 6, 2012 at 8:45 PM
A word to the Catholic Church…
You signed on to the “social justice” movement.
You signed on to the pro-illegal immigrant movement.
You signed on to universal healthcare movement.
…and now you’re shocked and amazed at the outcome?
You lay down with dogs…you wake up with fleas.
I will say, I am happy to see there still is a line to cross with the “church”… I was beginning to wonder.
katy on February 6, 2012 at 8:45 PM
Indeed. And Pope Jugears is counting on lots of Catholics crawling back to vote for him in November.
SagebrushPuppet on February 6, 2012 at 8:50 PM
I wish I could disagree with you katy. I can’t. I think this has awoken the church. Let’s just hope they stay awake.
WisRich on February 6, 2012 at 8:51 PM
Jeremiah Wright strangely silent.
BHO Jonestown on February 6, 2012 at 8:53 PM
Not surprised to see the ant-Catholic bigotry going on here in the comments. The Church does not endorse Obama. And the whole organization is dedicated to be proponents of charity and helping your fellow man. You may disagree with the political implications, but the Vatican considers them a social issue.
JetBoy on February 6, 2012 at 8:57 PM
Then the “Church” should continue to do these good works. The problem is the Church decided to partner with government to accomplish many of these tasks and therein lies the problem.
The Catholic Church needs to keep it nose to the business of helping people and out of endorsing political agendas such as Obamacare which they did…and perhaps it never would have come to fruition.
katy on February 6, 2012 at 9:08 PM
I assume you feel the same way about Protestant Evangelicals endorsing the political agenda of the Right…
JetBoy on February 6, 2012 at 9:13 PM
Can “We the People” gather to express our greivances and petition the government to address them when the people in the government are avowed enemies of “We the People” and have usurped powers beyond what we granted them, such that they can call us their enemy and detain us indefinitly without charge or habeus corpus?
Remember, it was conservatives who are all so totally for having American citizens being targeted as enemies of the state. Now that you supported that, the state will target those it wants to be rid of as enemies and increase beyond the pale those greivances it can upon them to force them to respond, then while they are exercising their right to assemble peacably, will the state fabricate a pretense as a reason to remove them from society?
Thanks. Now we can all rest that we gave the power of detention of political enemies to those who are in power.
astonerii on February 6, 2012 at 9:23 PM
Absolutely! Some of Catholic leaders were too happy to provide outright political support for Obamacare and other partisan initiatives, rather than merely outlining matters of Christian belief and obligations. Faith and morals are their territory, political ideology is not.
Now reality has bitten them in the butt. I feel little sympathy for some individuals and would find the consequences humorous, were they not such a serious threat to faith and morals.
Obama’s actions are a travesty. Let’s hope that the reality dawning on Christian leaders isn’t coming too late. In many respects, some have already forfeited their moral authority.
PS. I’m a conservative practicing Catholic and active in my church.
obladioblada on February 6, 2012 at 9:27 PM
astonerii – Ron Paul!
bernverdnardo1 on February 6, 2012 at 9:31 PM
Do not get you…
astonerii on February 6, 2012 at 9:32 PM
This is chilling…
d1carter on February 6, 2012 at 9:46 PM
As a non-Catholic, I have trouble taking them serious when they made a deal with the devil and then cry because the devil is the devil.
MikeA on February 6, 2012 at 9:50 PM
First they came for the evangelicals, but I was Catholic and not an Evangelical…
Jaibones on February 6, 2012 at 9:51 PM
I am really confused.
So exemptions can be in place for a state, due to their inability to “make it work” financially… but Catholics are to sacrifice their Freedom of Religion from the State.
Ones in the Constitution, ones not.
Interesting.
Odie1941 on February 6, 2012 at 9:52 PM
Republic does not equal conservative. Many GOP and independent conservatives have been aghast the last two decades at the destruction caused to our nation by those under the GOP flag, mostly so-called compassionate conservatives and neo-conservatives.
I am very not-catholic and generally not-organized religion in my personal life. However, I am 100% in support of the catholic church on this matter. If they are actually willing to fight this (I expect some sort of negotiated cave though) I will fight for their religion to be free of government. Of course, it would be nice if they would support the rule of law and my constitutional rights in the future but hey, my support is not conditional because this is just wrong.
deepdiver on February 6, 2012 at 9:54 PM
I am on your side. My argument is a complaint that when Obama took Awlaki out, they were all for it. Then they came up with the plan to allow congress to strip American citizens of their citizenship. Then they came out and supported the indefinite detention of American citizens with no access to habeus corpus. Right now, sure we are fighting the Islamists, and it is easy to hate them and go, well, this is just to stop the islamists from killing us, but our state department has already said that Christians, Constitutionalists, people who believe in going back to the gold standard or pretty much that is a conservative group is a potential terrorist group.
Now the government is prodding the christians and the christians are replying they will fight back and take to the streets, and I am certain they mean civil, orderly, peaceful assemblies, but just imagine if anyone does something violent during those protests, no mater how far removed from the catholics and christian groups as can be, the government will still target their known enemy, the catholics and christians. It is a set up. Plain and simple.
Obama never would have had this power without the backing of the conservatives. I hope the chains of safety weigh extremely heavily on every god forsaken one of their shoulders.
astonerii on February 6, 2012 at 10:04 PM
The Catholic Church has endured for over 2,000 years.
The Obama Regime won’t last 5.
wildcat72 on February 6, 2012 at 10:04 PM
Maybe the Catholics can convert to Amish. I’ll bet that would get them the waiver.
MikeA on February 6, 2012 at 10:08 PM
Bingo. The dismantling of Catholic Judeo-Christian institutions is at the core of Obama’s strategy to radically transform America. The only surprise is that launched his frontal assault prior to the November elections.
Tsk, tsk. May prove to be costly.
petefrt on February 6, 2012 at 10:20 PM
Unless he wants and needs unrest and a complete cultural meltdown….
katy on February 6, 2012 at 10:28 PM
Such as…?
katy on February 6, 2012 at 10:30 PM
Good point. Point taken.
petefrt on February 6, 2012 at 10:33 PM
As Alfred Pennyworth would say, “Some people just want to watch the world burn.”
SagebrushPuppet on February 6, 2012 at 10:41 PM
herm2416 on February 6, 2012 at 10:47 PM
Doltbama’s screwed. These churchy types vote in droves.
Little Boomer on February 6, 2012 at 11:06 PM