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2008: “His campaign did a great deal of direct outreach to blogs and conservative talk radio in those days, making him accessible, granting interviews, really being involved.”
2012: “So he hasn’t done the outreach to the conservative opinion sphere that he did last time around. That’s not speculation, it’s just a fact. His campaign this time is very different than the one he ran last time, no less professional but far less accessible. They send a blizzard of professional, impersonal emails that never really lend any sense of the man himself. He hasn’t presented himself, from the campaign’s earliest days, as the same kind of candidate he presented himself as last time. His current persona — moderate, avoid taking strong stands and avoid mistakes, play yourself off against the other candidates and allow them to play off of you as the dominant figure — is the “fix” to the “problem” that he diagnosed from the 2008 campaign.”
So some people began to realize that Mitt was for Mitt rather than conservative principles, and that his so-called conversion to conservatism was a sham.
INC…….. RomneyCare never came up, with Rush or Mark. Wanna know why? It wasn’t considered a “bad” thing by Conservatives at that time. Inconvenient Truth.
NRO must have a lot of people who really despise Newt to try to sell Mitt.
I don’t know why they didn’t turn to Santorum or just stay out and criticise all three.
Jonah’s article was cringe-worthy as to be almost satire. If I’d seen it without knowing NRO was all out for Mitt, then I might have thought it was satire.
Ponnuru and one other guy trying to sell RomneyCare. Unbelievable.
AYNBLAND on February 4, 2012 at 10:45 PM
I don’t remember. Maybe it hadn’t crashed so badly yet.
I’m just listing things I can think of.
INC on February 4, 2012 at 10:48 PM
I think my point is, don’t do that. Vetting is vetting and it’s good. But these hosts are not straight with anyone. At some point it will be incumbent upon everyone to jump in with the team for the big win. Beating Obama is going to be very difficult, if not impossible. Newt would lose us the Presidency, the House and Senate. Santorum is a good man and should be supported. Romney is also a good man and won’t implode the House and Senate. People should be looking at the big picture on all of this. Rush and Mark have no vested interest in doing that.
I don’t remember. Maybe it hadn’t crashed so badly yet.
I’m just listing things I can think of.
INC on February 4, 2012 at 10:48 PM
What does it matter? Mitt isn’t a conservative today. Never was.
What does it matter who people supported in 07-08? The guy isn’t going to beat Obama now, and he still isn’t remotely conservative. Mitten’s supporters still can’t find a single conservative thing the guy did as Governor, they just ignore his time in MA and try to claim he was some sort of economic wizard at Bain and scream about the Salt Lake City Olympics. But the guy totally failed at his one real shot in politics. He proved beyond arguement that he is incapable of bringing his supposed economic/private sector wisdom to bear in a political position. He isn’t a leader, he’s a manager, at best.
What does it matter? Mitt isn’t a conservative today. Never was.
What does it matter who people supported in 07-08? The guy isn’t going to beat Obama now, and he still isn’t remotely conservative. Mitten’s supporters still can’t find a single conservative thing the guy did as Governor, they just ignore his time in MA and try to claim he was some sort of economic wizard at Bain and scream about the Salt Lake City Olympics. But the guy totally failed at his one real shot in politics. He proved beyond arguement that he is incapable of bringing his supposed economic/private sector wisdom to bear in a political position. He isn’t a leader, he’s a manager, at best.
Interesting, seems the state of Nevada mis-reported that Newt got 50% of the votes in four precincts. They’re recalculating-recounting now, and that is part of the reason for the delay in getting new numbers.
This is what I’m saying. You haven’t refuted my claim. You haven’t suddenly found a lost cache of evidence that Romney is in fact a conservative. Instead you just lay into Newt. I don’t even like Newt. But I can make a case that Newt did accomplish several important Conservative policy issues as Speaker. Did Romney accomplish anything good as a Governor? Anything?
Newt just blew up his campaign and most of you think he did great. Steve Hayes just looked like he saw a Ghost, couldn’t believe what he just saw. When you don’t recognize that and don’t realize it, you’re lost.
Wow, sounds like it only went downhill from when I turned it off. Yeah, was totally confused when he promised a positive campaign only to turn around and parrot the same negative comments he’s been making all week. Couldn’t stomach watching some so bizarre.
He’s pissed but he should have thought about that when he was selling books and cruising the Mediterranean with Callista instead of getting his bleep together and ducks in a row. You can’t be a little bit pregnant with leadership. This presser was a microcosm of Newt. Really Smart and Really dumb.
Wonderful. Now don’t take this wrong because I seriously dislike Newt but…
Romney will split the GOP in the south. Obama WILL win SC because enough “R’s” in the state Dislike Mittens to the point of Defection.
My question is, how many other states will do the same. I’m guessing Georgia, Alabama, and Mississippi as well.
Go Mittens!
Now don’t let this post make you think I have a dog in this hunt, I don’t. The GOP can kiss my arse. I walked away from them after Boehner lied to the nation.
My presidential candidate isn’t in the race, as such, I vote for Civil unrest and hopefully the tree of liberty will be watered soon enough.
Don’t look at me, I’m seriously thinking about heading over to Cambodia to teach English. I can make some serious money over there and not have to deal with things.
Don’t look at me, I’m seriously thinking about heading over to Cambodia to teach English. I can make some serious money over there and not have to deal with things.
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and soon, the presidency..
Drunk Report on February 4, 2012 at 10:09 PM
Dessert people lurv Romney. Huh.
The Nerve on February 4, 2012 at 10:14 PM
You’ll be drunk on Nov. 6, but not from what you think.
Schadenfreude on February 4, 2012 at 10:19 PM
i’ll be drunk on hope and change. and beer and tequila.
Drunk Report on February 4, 2012 at 10:30 PM
Again because I think it’s important not to gloss over the past…
This was Two Years AFTER RomneyCare passed…
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/05/rush-limbaugh-endorses-mitt-romney/
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/223558/rally-romney/mark-r-levin
and Romney the “Conservative” hero falling on his sword for McCain at CPAC in 2008… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogHJAY1eVjM
Who’s the fraud, Mitt or the rest of us?
AYNBLAND on February 4, 2012 at 10:30 PM
Are we all going to ascend when Obama beats Romney?!?
The Nerve on February 4, 2012 at 10:30 PM
Mitt.
McCain had angered people on a national scale as a senator.
People turned to Mitt as the not-McCain.
Fred dropped out after SC. Giuliani at some point—he messed up his FL campaign. Huck was never going to make it nationally.
INC on February 4, 2012 at 10:34 PM
You know who this helps?
RINO on February 4, 2012 at 10:34 PM
Keyes, Duncan & Paul were the other three. I couldn’t remember them above.
ObamaCare hadn’t happened. As I remember Mitt was distancing himself from RomneyCare in 2008. Now he’s clinging to it.
Mitt supported stimulus.
People had yet to see Mitt keep his head down while Sarah Palin criticized Obama.
Those things make a difference.
INC on February 4, 2012 at 10:40 PM
So will many of us, in despair. I wish I had never studied History and then I would just be plumb ignorant not knowin what’s in store.
arnold ziffel on February 4, 2012 at 10:41 PM
Bryan Preston on the campaigns:
2008: “His campaign did a great deal of direct outreach to blogs and conservative talk radio in those days, making him accessible, granting interviews, really being involved.”
2012: “So he hasn’t done the outreach to the conservative opinion sphere that he did last time around. That’s not speculation, it’s just a fact. His campaign this time is very different than the one he ran last time, no less professional but far less accessible. They send a blizzard of professional, impersonal emails that never really lend any sense of the man himself. He hasn’t presented himself, from the campaign’s earliest days, as the same kind of candidate he presented himself as last time. His current persona — moderate, avoid taking strong stands and avoid mistakes, play yourself off against the other candidates and allow them to play off of you as the dominant figure — is the “fix” to the “problem” that he diagnosed from the 2008 campaign.”
So some people began to realize that Mitt was for Mitt rather than conservative principles, and that his so-called conversion to conservatism was a sham.
INC on February 4, 2012 at 10:42 PM
INC…….. RomneyCare never came up, with Rush or Mark. Wanna know why? It wasn’t considered a “bad” thing by Conservatives at that time. Inconvenient Truth.
AYNBLAND on February 4, 2012 at 10:45 PM
speaking of Romney, he looks VERY tired right now. Maybe he should take a cruise to Greece like Newt did a few months ago.
AYNBLAND on February 4, 2012 at 10:47 PM
NRO must have a lot of people who really despise Newt to try to sell Mitt.
I don’t know why they didn’t turn to Santorum or just stay out and criticise all three.
Jonah’s article was cringe-worthy as to be almost satire. If I’d seen it without knowing NRO was all out for Mitt, then I might have thought it was satire.
Ponnuru and one other guy trying to sell RomneyCare. Unbelievable.
INC on February 4, 2012 at 10:47 PM
Great speech, Mitt! Zing….
Buy Danish on February 4, 2012 at 10:47 PM
I don’t remember. Maybe it hadn’t crashed so badly yet.
I’m just listing things I can think of.
INC on February 4, 2012 at 10:48 PM
Didn’t Mitt win Nevada by an even greater percentage in 2008?
Fallon on February 4, 2012 at 10:54 PM
Breaking:
Newt Gingrich spotted at Casino roulette wheel placing everything on 22 over and over, muttering: “It worked for that guy in ‘Casablanca’, damn it!”.
profitsbeard on February 4, 2012 at 10:59 PM
I think my point is, don’t do that. Vetting is vetting and it’s good. But these hosts are not straight with anyone. At some point it will be incumbent upon everyone to jump in with the team for the big win. Beating Obama is going to be very difficult, if not impossible. Newt would lose us the Presidency, the House and Senate. Santorum is a good man and should be supported. Romney is also a good man and won’t implode the House and Senate. People should be looking at the big picture on all of this. Rush and Mark have no vested interest in doing that.
AYNBLAND on February 4, 2012 at 11:02 PM
Hmmm. Sheldon Adelson going wobbly on Newt? Wondering where the other donors are…Open to the Mittster..
As for those who say his margin of victory is less than 2008, the night is young…
Buy Danish on February 4, 2012 at 11:03 PM
Exit question: Presumptive nominee to excite less of the Republican base: McCain ’08 or Romney ’12?
I hate this primary.
Spannerhead on February 4, 2012 at 11:06 PM
What does it matter? Mitt isn’t a conservative today. Never was.
What does it matter who people supported in 07-08? The guy isn’t going to beat Obama now, and he still isn’t remotely conservative. Mitten’s supporters still can’t find a single conservative thing the guy did as Governor, they just ignore his time in MA and try to claim he was some sort of economic wizard at Bain and scream about the Salt Lake City Olympics. But the guy totally failed at his one real shot in politics. He proved beyond arguement that he is incapable of bringing his supposed economic/private sector wisdom to bear in a political position. He isn’t a leader, he’s a manager, at best.
Buckshot Bill on February 4, 2012 at 11:08 PM
Mitt did not support Obama’s stimulus!!
Buy Danish on February 4, 2012 at 11:09 PM
Actually you’re wrong but I don’t blame you. You listen to talk radio and get your facts from those people. You have NO idea what he did and didn’t do in terms of Bay State Politics when he was governor. I can tell you this much, he wasn’t Fannie and Freddie’s pet Republican Star for 15 years… http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/04/us/politics/gingrichs-deep-ties-to-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac.html
AYNBLAND on February 4, 2012 at 11:16 PM
Yes, he got 52% in 2008. Yet another state where Mittens underperforms vs. 2008.
Seriously, that speech was awful, even by Romney standards.
Norwegian on February 4, 2012 at 11:25 PM
Interesting, seems the state of Nevada mis-reported that Newt got 50% of the votes in four precincts. They’re recalculating-recounting now, and that is part of the reason for the delay in getting new numbers.
WolvenOne on February 4, 2012 at 11:27 PM
Newt not winning by claiming George Soros as a trusted expert. And could he sound any nastier or more petty? Horrible speech and q and a…
Buy Danish on February 4, 2012 at 11:34 PM
AYNBLAND on February 4, 2012 at 11:16 PM
This is what I’m saying. You haven’t refuted my claim. You haven’t suddenly found a lost cache of evidence that Romney is in fact a conservative. Instead you just lay into Newt. I don’t even like Newt. But I can make a case that Newt did accomplish several important Conservative policy issues as Speaker. Did Romney accomplish anything good as a Governor? Anything?
Buckshot Bill on February 4, 2012 at 11:34 PM
Ha ha ha…journalista asks about his new tone. Newt says wait for speech.
Buy Danish on February 4, 2012 at 11:37 PM
Media confounded by cognitive dissonance…
Buy Danish on February 4, 2012 at 11:40 PM
Newt just blew up his campaign and most of you think he did great. Steve Hayes just looked like he saw a Ghost, couldn’t believe what he just saw. When you don’t recognize that and don’t realize it, you’re lost.
AYNBLAND on February 4, 2012 at 11:45 PM
Wow, sounds like it only went downhill from when I turned it off. Yeah, was totally confused when he promised a positive campaign only to turn around and parrot the same negative comments he’s been making all week. Couldn’t stomach watching some so bizarre.
WolvenOne on February 4, 2012 at 11:48 PM
Auditioning to star in remake of “Network”?
Buy Danish on February 4, 2012 at 11:50 PM
He’s pissed but he should have thought about that when he was selling books and cruising the Mediterranean with Callista instead of getting his bleep together and ducks in a row. You can’t be a little bit pregnant with leadership. This presser was a microcosm of Newt. Really Smart and Really dumb.
AYNBLAND on February 4, 2012 at 11:52 PM
D-I-S-A-S-T-E-R…
Buy Danish on February 4, 2012 at 11:54 PM
Heh.
Wonderful. Now don’t take this wrong because I seriously dislike Newt but…
Romney will split the GOP in the south. Obama WILL win SC because enough “R’s” in the state Dislike Mittens to the point of Defection.
My question is, how many other states will do the same. I’m guessing Georgia, Alabama, and Mississippi as well.
Go Mittens!
Now don’t let this post make you think I have a dog in this hunt, I don’t. The GOP can kiss my arse. I walked away from them after Boehner lied to the nation.
My presidential candidate isn’t in the race, as such, I vote for Civil unrest and hopefully the tree of liberty will be watered soon enough.
MadDogF on February 4, 2012 at 11:58 PM
Yay a leftist running as a republican!
tom daschle concerned on February 5, 2012 at 12:21 AM
Is Nevada winner take all? I wouldn’t think so.
vegconservative on February 5, 2012 at 12:30 AM
Breaking: Newt declares “To The Moon And Back” as his new theme song because the campaign has been such a “savage garden” so far.
profitsbeard on February 5, 2012 at 1:00 AM
What time did you start drinking?
Go RBNY on February 5, 2012 at 1:02 AM
Don’t look at me, I’m seriously thinking about heading over to Cambodia to teach English. I can make some serious money over there and not have to deal with things.
UODuckMan on February 5, 2012 at 1:07 AM
Need a TA? I’ve always wanted to see Angkor Wat.
Things are going to suck here.
trigon on February 5, 2012 at 1:39 AM
This is true.
Dash on February 5, 2012 at 8:19 AM
That sounds awfully like the guy I know who is half-white…
CorporatePiggy on February 5, 2012 at 10:09 AM
He still can’t pull 50% of the GOP vote. Someone should poll Republicans on Obama v. Romney v. Sweet Meteor of Death for November.
Valiant on February 5, 2012 at 10:30 AM
What a marvelous victory for Romney, and an inspiring victory speech; he’s taking the fight to Obama, where it belongs!
claudius on February 5, 2012 at 11:34 AM