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New video from Newt’s Super PAC: “When Mitt Romney Came to Town”
Capitalism made America great – free markets, innovation, hard work – the building blocks of the American Dream. But in the wrong hands some of those dreams can turn into nightmares. This film is about one raider and his firm and how they destroyed that dream for thousands of Americans and their families – Mitt Romney and Bain Capital.









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Jeez, do I even need to post around here anymore. Conservatives are making these arguments. You acknowledge that capitalism can be predatory, but you just think that…..it doesn’t matter? I always thought you folks believed free market capitalism was the most fair system. Why is regulation against predatory practices a problem if you all are acknowledging that predation exists? I’m stunned.
libfreeordie on January 8, 2012 at 1:54 PM
Not to mention the ardent supporters of the constitutionality of Civil Rights legislation in the Ron Paul newsletters debates.
libfreeordie on January 8, 2012 at 1:54 PM
I’d rather have occasional instances of predatory capitalism in a free system than trying to even things out by government fiat. The Free Market isn’t out God, and it isn’t perfect; it’s simply the best thing out there. It’s the only one that can generate growth and greatness without restraining liberty.
Good Solid B-Plus on January 8, 2012 at 2:00 PM
I should have known better than to speak candidly with a liberal around. You see, predatory practices are anathema to capitalism BECAUSE THEY SUBVERT THE FREE MARKET, not because they are products of a free market. None of the large finance firms that are sucking off of the REAL producers in this nation would be as large as they are if they didn’t have the government’s blessing and protection – both of which are offered in exchange for bribes and expanded credit and lending to the government which makes the free spending necessary to buy votes possible. The current state of the market is fascist, not capitalist, in nature.
abobo on January 8, 2012 at 2:02 PM
Palin.
Midwestprincesse on January 8, 2012 at 2:05 PM
Stop whining and crying…your boy Romney says this stuff is uncontrollable, and if you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen
Now he wants to cry about telling the true about his crony capitalism and deliberate destruction of people’s lives..
georgealbert on January 8, 2012 at 1:45 PM
Whoa, take a breath man. Think a second. I think you’re throwing out some charges there because they sound nice. If Romney is a crony capitalist, who are his cronies? For example, Obama’s cronies have been well documented ie. GE, solar companies, the Chicago crew.
On the second charge, you are saying Mitt Romney has literally deliberately destroyed peoples lives. Wanna stand by that?
almosthandsome on January 8, 2012 at 2:07 PM
Democracy is the worst political system in the world, except for all the others.
Capitalism is the worst system of wealth distribution in the world, except for all the others.
Thousands of years of civilization haven’t come up with better alternatives, only liberal moonbats and Newt Gingrich think they are the ones who have discovered a better alternative. The 20th Century is a testament to their foolishness and we’ve all paid a mighty price for their experiments.
haner on January 8, 2012 at 2:07 PM
So explain to me how you prevent insurance, investment and securities firms from merging without government regulations like Glass Steagall? Or is your proposal that we shouldn’t prevent “too big too fail” firms from existing, allow them to fail when they do and hope that the financial industry learns a lesson?
libfreeordie on January 8, 2012 at 2:08 PM
And how does that person (no matter who it is) get the organization/ground game/funds needed at the last hour to run against Obama and notably, the unions who are nothing if not well-organized and well-financed?
Buy Danish on January 8, 2012 at 2:11 PM
Good on Newt for standing up for the middle class. I don’t care for slash and burn “capitalism” that has hollowed out our industrial base while lining the pockets of the Romney oligarchs that have been running the country into the ground.
Punchenko on January 8, 2012 at 2:12 PM
Ddrintn, If you have evidence that Bain received preferential treatment from the government a la Solyndra, then your comparison would have some merit. Otherwise, I do not understand the parallel between Bain and crony capitalism. It’s free markets versus government intervention, polar opposites.
Ala Pundit on January 8, 2012 at 2:15 PM
Capitalism doesn’t destroy. People do.
Romney used capitalism in a way that hurt others.
Whose to blame, Romney or capitalism?
portlandon on January 8, 2012 at 2:16 PM
@punchenko, our industrial base has been “hollowed out” because outsourcing lowers labor costs and the price of consumer goods. Frankly, I like Walmart.
Ala Pundit on January 8, 2012 at 2:19 PM
this was a stupid ad…sounded like MoveOn.org. What specifically did it say?
there is a part of the US population that always yearns for the day of the buggy whip. Many companies are poorly run…they don’t have the skills or the markets or whatever.
The left is fine with a national mandate to prop up all these companies because of ‘the Workers’…Workers Unite. Well that is BS at so many levels it is hard to count.
If you want a sclerotic country that props up failed companies, failed industries…If you want to have the taxpayers pay the salaries and pensions of the millions of workers in these companies…then fine, vote for Obama. That’s what he wants
Barry is proud to say that he worked with the USW in his salad days as an organizer in So Chicago. Well, wtf did he accomplish? Nada.
The only solution from the left is to nationalize these industries or put on high tariffs so that US customers have to pay much higher prices in order to support steel workers whose goal was to make 200% of the average wage…ie make everyone else poorer
Okay? 1. Weed out the inefficient companies or 2. Make the taxpayers/consumers pay to prop these people up
Your choice people…but use the proper language…liberty vs. security
r keller on January 8, 2012 at 2:27 PM
I support re-instating Glass-Steagall, not because it’s anti-market, but because it prevents fraud and abuse WITHIN the market. There’s a difference between “regulation” – a dirty word that refers to gov policies that pick winners and losers and “regulation” meaning legitimate legislation designed to keep competition within the system. I know it can be hard for an outsider to understand since many righties use the two terms interchangeably, but still. As for allowing firms to fail, do you really think they wouldn’t if they didn’t have US to cover their losses?
abobo on January 8, 2012 at 2:27 PM
No, nobody anywhere. Romney’s polling +5 nationally. He was +5 or higher nationally 6 months ago. He was about the same pre-Cain bubble and pre-Gingrich boom. There’s still way, way more in the NotRomney camp.
Good Solid B-Plus on January 8, 2012 at 2:28 PM
So tell me, oh wise one, what organization does Romney have? His paid workers? Oh geez.
Midwestprincesse on January 8, 2012 at 2:28 PM
So do I, but to pretend that there’s no trade off is dishonest. Opportunity Costs are a core postulate of basic economic understanding.
abobo on January 8, 2012 at 2:29 PM
cindyM,
Not when Newt gets attacked for things I dislike. By the way, Romney should be attacked, for RomneyCare, not for keeping companies from going belly up.
rob verdi on January 8, 2012 at 2:35 PM
Don’t ask me, I’m not the one promoting it.
Cindy Munford on January 8, 2012 at 2:37 PM
No GOP candidate — not even Romney — will be able to compete against Obama’s organization or enthusiasm. What Obama built is truly amazing and will require an unconventional GOP candidate to take it on. Sadly, Rmoney is not that candidate (especially after this devastating Bain surprise.)
Punchenko on January 8, 2012 at 2:38 PM
If we’re going to go with Romney, we might as well go with Huntsman.
What will the Left have to throw at Huntsman? And at least we get foreign policy with him.
Huntsman/Palin! Boom!
Midwestprincesse on January 8, 2012 at 2:40 PM
I know but this is the bigs and Obama won’t hold back or even be honest. I don’t know enough about Bain to say whether Gov. Romney acted like a smart business guy or a predator. Since the company still exists I lean towards good business but he will have to prove it now or after he inevitability kicks in. Which is better?
Cindy Munford on January 8, 2012 at 2:41 PM
Wow we….agree!
libfreeordie on January 8, 2012 at 2:44 PM
Hopefully you’ll be a voice of reason the next time “class warfare” is thrown around the conservative blogosphere.
libfreeordie on January 8, 2012 at 2:58 PM
Are you serious? You know, I suggest you not respond to my comments unless you’re a masochist who enjoys being squished like a bug.
To give one example, in Virginia where Romney and Paul got on the ballot but Newt and Perry failed, he had exactly one paid worker in charge of the many volunteers who began to get signatures in August. Volunteers then called each person on the list to be sure the names were legit so they would not risk having them tossed as ineligible.
Meanwhile other campaigns paid people $10.00 per signature on the petitions. Newt’s paid worker committed fraud. Newt also failed to qualify for the Missouri and Ohio ballots. His organization is a mess. You think he can beat Obama like this?
Buy Danish on January 8, 2012 at 3:10 PM
It was a rhetorical question.
No GOP candidate — not even Romney — will be able to compete against Obama’s organization or enthusiasm. What Obama built is truly amazing and will require an unconventional GOP candidate to take it on. Sadly, Rmoney is not that candidate (especially after this devastating Bain surprise.)
Punchenko on January 8, 2012 at 2:38 PM
Good luck with that! / BTW, I find it amusing that you called Romney a “Marxist-Leninist” but are now attacking him for his work as a free market capitalist at Bain. But don’t hold your breath for it to be a “devastating” surprise. What I read sounds like a combo of a Philip K. Dick resurrected from the grave to write an episode of Dragnet- with risible results.
Buy Danish on January 8, 2012 at 3:19 PM
psssst. This is for Midwestprincesse:
Here’s a story about Iowa with the headline “Romney’s Iowa Win took a lot more than money“:
There are many similar stories out there in the internets…
Buy Danish on January 8, 2012 at 3:32 PM
And he won by 9 votes with 25% of the vote. There’s a pony in that barn!!!!!
Cindy Munford on January 8, 2012 at 3:53 PM
Whatever, it was in response to this asinine comment:
Buy Danish on January 8, 2012 at 5:05 PM
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