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391 polled x 23.9% Paulbots = 93 people picked Ron Paul. I assume this information will cause Romney and Gingrich to drop out of the race sometime today?

Crusty on December 19, 2011 at 1:00 PM

“I’m going to be the nominee”…..Newt 🙂

JPeterman on December 19, 2011 at 1:01 PM

We will see come voting day who will get the vote! People say things they don’t mean just to plow up snakes in polls, IMO.
Go Perry!
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letget on December 19, 2011 at 1:03 PM

I don’t blame you for distrusting their inter-party polls. They are a Dem firm… they are going to assume a favorable Dem turnout in a general election.

But there is no case for such a bias in intra-party polling, for either Dems or GOP. Unless of course you think they are part of a conspiracy to push Ron Paul.

Not that there’s anything wrong with a good conspiracy theory. Just make sure you throw in the Illuminati. No conspiracy is complete without involvement by the AISB.

JohnGalt23 on December 19, 2011 at 12:58 PM

It’s not a conspiracy when it’s all out in the open. PPP is run by Democrats who are openly rooting for Democrats. Tom Jensen, PPP’s founder is on record several times saying PPP is a pro-Democrat polling firm. He makes no bones about it. Their clients for poll are DailyKos and SEIU. SEIU alone has commissioned 100+ polls so far this year from PPP.

But if you want to ignore what is out there in the public domain, go ahead.

angryed on December 19, 2011 at 1:04 PM

Yeah baby! The rise of Perry!

kerrhome on December 19, 2011 at 1:04 PM

Perry making a comeback!!!

And just when I was thinking all hope was lost…

Lawdawg86 on December 19, 2011 at 1:05 PM

It’s not a conspiracy when it’s all out in the open.

angryed on December 19, 2011 at 1:04 PM

Spoken like a true Ronulan…

/sarcasm 😀 I just had to!

aryeung on December 19, 2011 at 1:06 PM

ron paul is a lunatic…and his supporters are moonbat loons! He will win Iowa, but will run out of steam around Feb!

WhatsRight on December 19, 2011 at 1:07 PM

Paul is the GOP-Howard Dean, except Dean gets more time on air from MSNBC.

BuckeyeSam on December 19, 2011 at 12:59 PM

Well Ron Paul gets more air time with Alex Jones.

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CW on December 19, 2011 at 1:07 PM

I remember people like you a mere 4 years ago scoffing at the idea that the likes of Obama could win NC, VA, IN, and CO. Guess what. The world isn’t how you think it ought to be.

PPP has the best record of the major polling outfits. Deal with it.

Daikokuco on December 19, 2011 at 12:57 PM

Yes for polls taken the week before an election. For polls a year out they are a propaganda machine of DailyKos and SEIU. Why do you fail to acknowledge that SEIU has hired PPP to run 100+ polls this year? What purpose to do you suppse this serves?

As for 2012, if you really believe Obama has a chance in SC, TX, GA and AZ, then it figures you’ll believe anything PPP tells you.

angryed on December 19, 2011 at 1:08 PM

A good debunking of the bogus PPP poll

http://unlikelyvoter.com/2011/12/19/debunking-ppp-in-iowa/

angryed on December 19, 2011 at 1:11 PM

I have not closely followed politics for a long time. I do not remember this much turmoil so I looked at the last elections RCP polls and found this:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2012_2008_gop_presidential_race_4_years_ago.html

Now this time it looks like this!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

Was there this much turmoil normal in previous years??

AZgranny on December 19, 2011 at 1:12 PM

Polls also weigh responses to reflect the % of the population.

Say blacks make up 5% of Iowa. They poll 1000 people in Iowa. But then can only find 40 blacks. In order to get the results to reflect the population, they will weigh that 40 to equal 50. And so you get weird things like 2.4 people polled said Newt, 2.9 said Romney, etc.

angryed on December 19, 2011 at 12:52 PM

I understand how polls work, but the problem that i have is this,

There are 7 candidates, and no opinion, so if you only polled 8 black voters and you claim that all of them got a % then it must be that all of them got at least one vote, so how can the result be 21% Romney and 16% Paul and 3.5% Bachmann???

Again, if they polled 10 or more blacks i get the idea that they figure the % and then divide it for each candidate, But if they polled only 8 voters how the hell can they make a % of it???

Or did they ask voters what there second choice was?

I Don’t trust this poll, it makes no sense

OrthodoxJew on December 19, 2011 at 1:14 PM

Yes for polls taken the week before an election.

angryed on December 19, 2011 at 1:08 PM

How about polls taken two weeks out?

Check your calendar ed…

JohnGalt23 on December 19, 2011 at 1:15 PM

angryed on December 19, 2011 at 1:08 PM

It doesn’t matter who they poll on behalf of. What matters is how accurate their data is. PPPs tends to be accurate.

And I don’t “fail to acknowledge” anything. I believe I brought up the fact that PPP has democrat ties in this thread before you did.

You don’t believe Bamster has a chance in SC, TX, GA, and AZ, because you don’t want it to be true. You think after all this time, it should be impossible for a guy like Obama to do well in those good ole boy states. But like I said, the world doesn’t work the way you think it should.

Daikokuco on December 19, 2011 at 1:19 PM

If Paul wins, will he make a Howard Dean screech? How do you spell that?

Opinions on that vary. Some say it was “yarrrrgh”, some say, “yeaaaaahh”.

For your viewing pleasure – enjoy!

Flora Duh on December 19, 2011 at 1:22 PM

Paul is the GOP-Howard Dean, except Dean gets more time on air from MSNBC.

BuckeyeSam on December 19, 2011 at 12:59 PM

Well, no. Newt is the Dean this year, however, his collapse is happening 2 weeks before caucus instead of 1 for Dean

ConservativePartyNow on December 19, 2011 at 1:22 PM

Go Perry!!

Don’t forgat this guy never lust before! in 2010 hw was down at one point 25 points and he won big!

Governor Perry here he comes!

Nathan NY on December 19, 2011 at 1:26 PM

Why do Republicans despise Romney?

liberal4life on December 19, 2011 at 1:26 PM

Go Perry!!

Don’t forgat this guy never lost before! in 2010 he was down at one point 25 points and he won big!

Governor Perry here he comes!

sorry for the wrung spelling before!

Nathan NY on December 19, 2011 at 1:28 PM

Go Perry!!

Don’t forgat this guy never lust before!

His private life should remain private

cavalier973 on December 19, 2011 at 1:30 PM

Nathan NY on December 19, 2011 at 1:28 PM

Want to give it one more try?

rndmusrnm on December 19, 2011 at 1:31 PM

Why do Republicans despise Romney?

liberal4life on December 19, 2011 at 1:26 PM

Few do. Many just expect him to lose to Obama. And if he does win, many expect him to routinely cave to the Dems per the Rebpulican norm.

Kataklysmic on December 19, 2011 at 1:41 PM

Yep still happy 🙂

gophergirl on December 19, 2011 at 1:42 PM

Paul is a rambling, bumbling, inarticulate man that has a penchant for telling things the way they aren’t. I don’t understand the love affair certain people have with this toad.

Spirit Crusher on December 19, 2011 at 1:44 PM

And the good job news continues for TX as TX cities are ranked tops in overall jobs, and in manufacturing.

juliesa on December 19, 2011 at 1:46 PM

CW on December 19, 2011 at 1:06 PM

You’re right about 2008.

But you’ve curiously left out their results for 2010.

Notorious GOP on December 19, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Perry moving back up. I can live with it. Mitt needs to start running some ads on Herr Paul.

Southernblogger on December 19, 2011 at 2:01 PM

Kataklysmic on December 19, 2011 at 1:41 PM

True. We will all back Mitt, if god forbid, he gets the nom.

Southernblogger on December 19, 2011 at 2:02 PM

Why do Republicans despise Romney?

liberal4life on December 19, 2011 at 1:26 PM

I don’t despise Romney, any more than I despise cardboard. Or plain oatmeal. Or the music of Neil Diamond.

JohnGalt23 on December 19, 2011 at 2:11 PM

Kataklysmic on December 19, 2011 at 1:41 PM

True. We will all back Mitt, if god forbid, he gets the nom.

Southernblogger on December 19, 2011 at 2:02 PM

Yep, I agree with both of you, but hopefully it will not come to that. All I want for Christmas is a Perry comeback… and maybe that new Call of Duty game… and one of those big tins cans with three types of popcorn.

Lawdawg86 on December 19, 2011 at 2:18 PM

Why do Republicans Americans despise Romney Obama?

liberal4life on December 19, 2011 at 1:26 PM

OrthodoxJew on December 19, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Why do Republicans despise Romney?

liberal4life on December 19, 2011 at 1:26 PM

I don’t despise Romney, any more than I despise cardboard. Or plain oatmeal. Or the music of Neil Diamond.

JohnGalt23 on December 19, 2011 at 2:11 PM

Lol. For any Arrested Development fans out there, we should start calling him Egg Romney.

Lawdawg86 on December 19, 2011 at 2:24 PM

Ron Paul is to the right what Ralph Nader is to the left. How come nobody brings up the fact that Ron Paul endorsed Cynthia McKinney for President after he was shown the door in 2008? What a sore loser he is and he wouldn’t say he would support the eventual nominee this year either. If Perry can somehow pull out a 2nd place in Iowa then he’s on his way to the nomination because he will end up beating Mittens in SC and Florida..Go Perry 2012!!

jrfromdallas on December 19, 2011 at 2:28 PM