Damn, Allahpundit is a Chamberlain-esque RINO jackass
I’m hardly the first to make this point, but I’ll be damned if I ever forget it. Weren’t we proselytized by the politically savvy Republican moderates that nominating McCain would appeal to Independents, broaden the reach of the Republicans who had so often been tarred as rigid reactionaries? What happened? All the prominent moderates and Independents we were pandering to endorsed and voted for Obama. I mean, if there’s hardly any difference between the Dem and the Repub, all the kudos go to endorsing the Dem. Hell, I’m not even certain that McCain voted for McCain. I know his damn daughter didn’t.
It better not be that easy next time. And the AllahPundits of this world had better think up a new schtick for the next election cycle. Because the old one keeps reminding me of Neville Chamberlain.
Sorry, Allah. Sorry, Ed, Sorry, Michelle. I know you’re making money by covering the whole waterfront with seemingly disparate positions that add up to Republican diversity. But there can be no acceptable diversity when what’s at stake is our country. That’s not a polling kerfuffle. For most of us, the ones who don’t make our living posturing about who’s up and who’s down today, it’s a bitterly real question of whether we get to live the rest of our lives free or as slaves of the state. If the Independents can’t figure that out in spite of your temporizing, well, screw-em. Sometimes a smaller tent is more attractive — because it seems more of an accomplishment to get into. That’s the paradox.
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I’m sorry, but I’m tired of Allahpundit always posting these Anti-Allahpundit stories.
I mean why would he post this? He must hate Allahpundit.
- The Cat
P.S. Seriously though, weren’t people blaming Allahpundit for knocking McCain causing him to lose the election?
Can’t have it both ways people.
MirCat on November 18, 2009 at 10:54 PM
High praise, indeed and true.
baldilocks on November 18, 2009 at 10:55 PM
I followed Ed over here, but I’ve come to appreciate Allahpundit just as much, even when I disagree with him. Everyone needs a jester in their court, someone who isn’t afraid to call b.s. That’s what Allahpundit does.
When I think back to last year, there was a lot of denial in the air ’round here. A lot of people didn’t want to admit that McCain was doomed and there was a lot of hoping against hope that the polls were wrong, that the train wreck really wasn’t approaching. Allah kept running the disagreeable polling data, took the angry shots from commenters here and in the end it turned out he was right.
Telling the truth doesn’t make you a RINO. In fact, most real RINOs have a problem telling the truth, like Frum and his cabal, for example.
Conservatism can win. But we have to be honest about the amount of work that we have in front of us. And it will take people like Allah who are willing to remind us how far we have to go.
Mr. D on November 18, 2009 at 10:57 PM
Sounds like Beck off his meds. True Conservatism, is at its core, Libertarian in nature. This guy has been listening to too much talk radio that ventures into almost nanny state Dem territory as far as what you must adhere to in order to qualify.
Southernblogger on November 18, 2009 at 11:01 PM
This calls for an Associated Press style fact checking.
That means I find whenever it was that you last commented on another site, and whenever it is, I call you a liar for saying you haven’t commented on other sites.
Where’s my pulitzer?
Kensington on November 18, 2009 at 11:03 PM
Huh, I though Instapunk had been weblogging a lot longer, but his domain name was only registered 17-Dec-2003. Then again, I’ve been reading Rachel Lucas for what feels like decades, and (& I know she was weblogging before she had her own domain) her domain was first registered 31-May-2002.
Anyway, Instapunk has been around a while. Get with it, kids.
fronclynne on November 18, 2009 at 11:08 PM
Please put all of the slobbering for AP aside – it’s unbecoming. Instapunk picked AP’s post apart rather well and arrived at the central point while still putting a title on the rebuttal. Moderate Republicans are simply Democrats in training, and with folks like AP falsely pitching the idea that Conservatives MUST make concessions to their principles and ideologies, he continues to perpetuate that damaging approach.
Guys like McCain are difficult to stomach because they sell out what little conservative principles they do have far too easily. Where’s that gotten traditional Republican, Libertarian, and Conservative politics? Instapunk is ahead of the HA curve on this one, as witnessed by the number of posts supporting the lukewarm moderate views typically espoused by AP in his blogs. The idea of the ‘big moderate Republican tent’ will be dashed by the realities we are sure to face if those with Conservative principles do not win the day and take back the Party. The ‘Chamberlain-esque’ label is apt in this case — those of you with a modicum of historical awareness understand that his appeasement inevitably led to his undoing and lasting infamy. Buying into equivocation just because it’s been presented ‘with a sense of humor’ is a poor rational for being, yourself, intellectually lazy about the subject matter.
It’s time some of you folks came in out of the ether and decided what it is that’s important. Obama and the current Congress is making the decision easy for the people still in that political grey area, and they are trending Right. The task that lies ahead for Conservatives is to boil down their central tenets and make them easy to understand in a black-and-white ‘good-evil’ way. Now that it is becoming personally painful for the moderates, knowing that they had a hand in allowing things to get this way, they’ll be much more open to trying the unflinching principles of Conservatism on for size. Even Chamberlain-esque RINOs can change their spots when the real power of individual freedom becomes appealing by necessity. As the Republican Party moves more and more to the Right in response to the damaging effects brought about by the works of their moderate-to-liberal politicians, guys like AP will either evolve or continue to get hammered for their soft, moderate views.
Wilbur on November 18, 2009 at 11:11 PM
That means that he has found a niche. It doesn’t make him correct.
Southernblogger on November 18, 2009 at 11:12 PM
I am sure that moonbats despise blue dog Dems in the same way that wingnuts hate McCain, and his ilk. Would you prefer standing on ideology and a perpetual state of gridlock, or a meeting in the middle with fiscal Conservatism as the line in the sand?
Who is the last “pure” Republican to hold office?
Southernblogger on November 18, 2009 at 11:19 PM
Well, I don’t see any video of you flying an airliner over three roast ducks, so I guess that makes two disconnected statements.
fronclynne on November 18, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Bwahahahahahaha!!! Allah is better at making everything about him than Obama is!
csdeven on November 18, 2009 at 11:27 PM
But he’s OUR Chamberlainesque RINO jackass.
misterpeasea on November 18, 2009 at 11:30 PM
I will assume that your statement has some relevance that I am missing. My original comment was relevant to your statement.
Southernblogger on November 18, 2009 at 11:32 PM
There are somethings I would not compromise on. Ever increasing government control and interference with how I live my life is one of them. Government taking more and more of my money (what little I make) is another. Government printing monopoly money by the ship load is another. Taxpayer funding of things I find abhorrent is another.
I care not if a man puts it up the butt of another man, or a woman bumps uglies with another woman. Or if a person lays down with animals. I don’t care if a person smokes maryjane every day in his own home or injects himself with heroin. Don’t care if they drink till their liver cries for mercy, eats till they weigh a ton or smokes 6 packs a day.
Holger on November 18, 2009 at 11:33 PM
That is my point exactly, and puts us at agreement.
Southernblogger on November 18, 2009 at 11:36 PM
Instapunk nailed it.
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Allah’s type of thinking led to the ugly compromise of Bush and to the uglier compromise of McCain.
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We need more Scozzofava fever. If we maintain conservative principles we will win. The Dems didn’t win because of a wide tent. They are very closed to sincerely religious people and to sober Republicans. The Republicans lost because they totally alienated the true conservative base.
FactsofLife on November 18, 2009 at 11:40 PM
For those of you just tuning in, I wrote that Instapunk had been around for a while.
Southernblogger wrote, “It doesn’t make him correct.”
Such a statement holds a limited amount of relevance because is does in fact refer to the same weblogging operation, though that really has nothing whatever to do with the meat of my statement, as I had not indulged in the finer points of rectitude or, hell, much beyond taking issue with the facetious, “Who’s Instapunk” type of comments.
I would like to take this opportunity to point out that Instapunk is correct: the republican party that AllahPundit would appear to be working towards is a republican party I will never vote for, and that is being demonstrated to be a more widely-held point of view than the RINOs are willing to accept.
fronclynne on November 18, 2009 at 11:44 PM
Methinks this post and resulting thread has delivered Allah from traffic seppuku.
pfamis on November 18, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Allah,
Please stop soliciting these complementary articles. It’s embarrassing. [Joke]
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on November 18, 2009 at 11:51 PM
I will say that I misunderstood the context of your original statement. I will also state that I want a Republican party that America can embrace. That is a party of “get off my back, and out of my freaking wallet.”
The GOP can be great with thoser principles.It does not allow for Americanized sharia.
Southernblogger on November 18, 2009 at 11:56 PM
Instapunk is right about the RINOs and their lies; at best they circle the drain slower than Democrats. Bush II reneged on even that much. The nation is in danger because of two generations of feckless Bushes, corrupt RINOs, and the Democrats they enabled. McCain promised to rub our noses in more of the same treachery.
The RINOs lift their big-tent dresses for left-wing destroyers and RINO snake-breath reeks of the DNC. Don’t listen to them.
This kind of so-called poll does a lot more damage than its worth. It was a small chink in AP’s credibility to start from a flawed principle. Pollsters are contemptible and the fed-up of this country find them as credible as NBC News. Viewing politics as a cynical game of numbers in an urban bubble is a (ducking and running) Frum-like error. Times have changed and people see their survival at stake.
Still, I wouldn’t be too dismissive of anyone who contributes so much to HA.
OK, it’s because he likes cats.
Feedie on November 18, 2009 at 11:56 PM
On what basis do you make that comment?
Patrick Ishmael on November 19, 2009 at 12:01 AM
Tell me again, who the hell is instapunk? Better yet, who cares what he has to say.
Yet I’m not one to talk, I’m a RINO Hopechangey pinko, so my opinion doesn’t count.
DanStark on November 19, 2009 at 12:05 AM
I should start a blog called “Allahpundit Must Be Drawn and Quartered!”
The content would be nothing but stolen LOLcat pictures, but the name alone would probably get me $2000 a month in Google ad revenue.
The Lone Platypus on November 19, 2009 at 12:08 AM
Only if you had a button visitors could push to feed Meg a Twinkie.
MeatHeadinCA on November 19, 2009 at 12:19 AM
We hate to love you and love to hate you Allah.
At least I do.
Keep pissing me off…….I dare you.
omnipotent on November 19, 2009 at 12:22 AM
I don’t get where the Chamberlain reference comes from. AP seems pretty Hawkish – kind of like Graham, Lieberman, and such.
MeatHeadinCA on November 19, 2009 at 12:24 AM
It’s true. Mentality like Allahpundit’s lost the election -– NOT conservatives. And he had help. The Republican elite — the pathetic so-called conservative movement, ie, Rush Limbo, Hannity, Ingraham, Coulter, et al, all supported the left wing Ted Kennedy Republican in Massachusetts, Mitt Romney. He is a plastic, robotic, candidate. He answers questions like a robot. There’s no sincerity in him. I mean, sheesh, it’s just insane! It’s so obvious that all of his questions and everything else he does is programmed, and they place their full support behind him. You don’t see the insanity in that? Then — get this — then they launch a smear campaign against the only candidate who could BEAT Obama in the debates and then afterwards in the general election — Mike Huckabee. All of them, Limbo, Coulter, they go after Huckabee trying to ruin his campaign on their radio shows, TV, and on their blogs. They paint a solid southern Christian man as evil. They hate him enough to destroy him. How pathetic can you be, and how much do you have to hate your country to do such a thing. These so-called “Christian” conservatives finally have a candidate who actually preaches and lives what they have always wanted, and they call him stupid and evil and attack him. We have a classy bunch of people here, folks. Real winners. So you can BLAME THEM for the current state of America cause they’re largely responsible for making your life harder. Their problem is that their pride has blinded their good judgment. In ending, the phony right is worse than the left. And the reason the phony right is worse than the left is examples like this. They wanna turn their back on the truth because they love their sin. They love sin. And that’s the truth. Oh well, you just do what you want, but more and more people are waking up.
apacalyps on November 19, 2009 at 12:25 AM
I read this entire thread and I still can’t figure out why anyone would call himself Instapunk. Either he’s saying he’s punk rock – which is like calling yourself a hipster, or a hot piece of ass, it doesn’t work if you have to declare it – or he’s a male prostitute/prison bitch. Which, I dunno, might be kinda fitting?
Either way, this is just as important as all y’all and your navelgazing meta. I demand an explanation.
Siobhan on November 19, 2009 at 12:28 AM
Terrific
FontanaConservative on November 19, 2009 at 12:30 AM
It’s true. Mentality like Allahpundit’s lost the election -– NOT conservatives.
Yeah. It had nothing to do with the country’s rejection of George W. Bush.
Who I liked. But the country didn’t, at election time.
Patterico on November 19, 2009 at 12:30 AM
AllahP,
I don’t think this is going to blob your knob. There’s something masochistic about all this; much too way past self-deprecating, dahling.
Fortunata on November 19, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Great word-play! That strain of amoral leftism is what turned me away from the libertarians (they’re still great on economics). The consequences of libertarianism (or perhaps a twisting of it for personal convenience) are seen on Wall St. and Main St. Extreme individualism at the level of theory destroys community. There is a cost to everything, even seeking the lowest price no matter what.
Feedie on November 19, 2009 at 12:42 AM
I support some conservatives in their chastisement of Huckabee’s
“conservative”populismMeatHeadinCA on November 19, 2009 at 12:43 AM
No, greed and selfishness ruin communities, families, and such.
MeatHeadinCA on November 19, 2009 at 12:44 AM
Spot on!
How many of us made that argument back in 2008, and how many who made that point ended up leaving on their own, or with some H.A. assistance? The answers remain relevant to this day.
DannoJyd on November 19, 2009 at 12:50 AM
Like I said, I figured our readers would enjoy it. That’s good enough for a link.
Allahpundit on November 19, 2009 at 12:53 AM
I think there are millions of people who think they represent the true form of conservatism. They define it in their image, praise Reagan off their projection, and yell traitor any chance they get. This obviously causes a lot of problems for candidates who view themselves as conservative, yet due to a certain issue, are rejected. It’s not about “supporting RINOs” it’s called being realistic in an election (definitely in a political environment where compromises need to be made). Purity tests are hard to follow when what is “pure” isn’t easily defined. Purity tests are hard to follow when there are not many good representations of what is considered pure (is Palin a pure conservative? Did Reagan rule in his idealized perfect image?). Really, who is the real conservative?
I am not a conservative, so obviously I don’t know the answer to that question, but do you?
DanStark on November 19, 2009 at 1:00 AM
One can say, “I am a conservative of school X.” Further, the more clear they are on the issues, the more one can judge just how conservative the candidate is.
MeatHeadinCA on November 19, 2009 at 1:04 AM
+ 1 BILLION!!!
(Don’t forget egotistical)
long_cat on November 19, 2009 at 1:14 AM
That’s true. Rejection of George W. Bush did play a role. I agree. People definitely wanted a change. BUT, that doesn’t change what I’m saying. The Republican Party could have still won. They could have still won had they supported the right candidate. All the excitement surrounding Palin proved that. That came from Christians who wanted somebody they could support because they weren’t happy with McCain. Before McCain became the Republican nominee though (and this is the reason why McCain was the nominee) the problem was Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Laura Ingraham, Mark Levin and other talk radio hosts who have tens of millions of people at their disposal. They put their support behind the wrong candidate! Mitt Romney who would have lost the election if he became the Republican nominee against Obama, and these Republicans were dumb enough to nominate Mitt Romney! He has flip flopped and changed his position on every issue. He was a left wing Ted Kennedy Republican in Massachusetts where you had left wing voters. Then when he runs among conservative voters in the Republican primary by AMAZING COINCIDENCE he switches his position. He suddenly discovers new positions just in time to run for President among conservative voters. He is such a two-faced, double barrelled phony, and he’s a Mormon. Many Christian voters will have hard time voting for a Mormon because they consider Mormonism to be a cult. The Mormons believe that some blasphemous things. They believe that, uh, they believe in a religion that teaches all types of things that Christians — that Bible believing Christians — are not gonna buy, and they consider it to be a dangerous proselytizing cult, and many Christians would have had a hard time voting for a Mormon. He would not win against Obama. Like I said, he’s a plastic, robotic, candidate. He answer questions like a robot. There’s no sincerity in him. So what do these BLIND phonies on the right do!? They support Mitt Romney! Meanwhile, the candidate who could have beat Obama and who grassroots were supporting — Mike Huckabee — they attack him and hate him. This is the former Governor of Arkansas. He’s an excellent speaker. He’s an excellent debater. He’s pro-life. He’s an ordained Baptist Minister. He is very comical. He makes a lot of witty remarks and can be very funny. Uh, so he has the qualities of a winning candidate. He has taken good stands on many issues. He is pro-Israel. He could beat Obama. And they do everything in their power to destroy the man, and with that the countries hopes and dreams. Like I said, the phony right is more dangerous — is much more dangerous. The phony right is worse than the left. It’s a fact.
apacalyps on November 19, 2009 at 1:18 AM
Sorry Allah, but he’s right. Move to the right with me. I’ll even send you a book if you feel the need to re-examine your atheism in order to get that far to the right.
Tim Burton on November 19, 2009 at 1:23 AM
Gaaaah!
Lay off Allah. By day, he’s a squishy, reasonable moderate named Allahpundit who has a crush on Meggie Mac’s boobs. By night, he’s a bomb-throwing maniac known as Allah-Is-In-The-House.
Would you idiots rather have him on our side or their side?
misterpeasea on November 19, 2009 at 1:37 AM
Oh, nonsense, AP isn’t a jackass.
LegendHasIt on November 19, 2009 at 1:42 AM
I don’t have any problem with Michelle having an atheist libertarian as a blog administrator, what I don’t get is why you want to stay here? This is a conservative blog, you know, people who have a deep abiding belief in God. You, on the other hand, make every effort to mock the beliefs of 90% of the populace on this blog! Basically crapping on everyone who comes here, including Michelle (who also, believe it or not, believes in God). Yet, you want to stay here, and she wants to keep you on, could your ability to pull in lots of blog traffic, and the money you bring into her coffers, have something to do with it? Nah, can’t be!
Joe Pyne on November 19, 2009 at 1:45 AM
So what you’re saying is tens of millions of us are robots who only vote for who Rush etc., tell us to vote for. Sorry, that doesn’t fly.
beachgirlusa on November 19, 2009 at 1:46 AM
From What Type of Web Commenter Are You by Michael Malone 4/10/2009
Allah has quite a few defenders here. Not sure why.
Christian Conservative on November 19, 2009 at 1:51 AM
Hahaha
Very true! Wow! Nailed it.
MeatHeadinCA on November 19, 2009 at 1:52 AM
This is a funny article. I don’t see a category for “Always-Bitching-About-Others-Replying-To-Trolls” though, which is me.
beachgirlusa on November 19, 2009 at 2:09 AM
It is an Alinskyite fallacy to dismiss any conservative politician who doesn’t please every conservative all the time. Reagan was a great conservative, but he made some mistakes. That is to be expected by any reasonable person. Sure, we won’t get everything we want, but it is not too much to ask that they refuse anti-constitutional power-grabs, government growth, regulatory hose-jobs, or the banning of incandescent bulbs. The idiots of RINO do all of the above.
Politics became so depraved that ordinary conservatives want nothing to do it. They are rare in politics. Palin is a Main Street conservative — not part of the synthetic culture that wouldn’t exist without the accomplishments of our non-leftist ancestors, the U.S. Constitution, and a traditional moral framework.
Like Reagan, Palin speaks directly to the people, in the language of truth. The people who still remember like her instinctively. What I want from Palin is pro-Americanism, rule of law, respect for the Constitution, and a government that stops undermining the traditional moral framework. Today, we’re coasting dangerously on the momentum of the past.
The point of contention is RINOs; those who run as Republicans and/or claim to be conservatives. Once in power, they repeatedly vote to grow government and drag the country to the left. They do this with impunity (until now) because of no consequences for the betrayals.
Unlike conservatives who make mistakes, the RINOs engage in treachery. It is repetitive and documented. They do the opposite of what they say — if they say anything at all. There is nothing moderate about them. They’re liberals.
Feedie on November 19, 2009 at 2:10 AM
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